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sounds like it was straight out of a movie or something! that is some pretty wild stuff guys, it just goes to show how there is so much more to this world than what you see.

Next thing you know it, its gonna be like the Matrix and agents start going after you! WATCH YOUR BACK lol...

in seriousness, i think its wicked cool...why not call the guy and see what hes all about?  

no fear.

~ivan

whoa whoa whoa whoa....i already spoke to cezyl about this. we all just needa chill. i hope he knows what was offensive in his post, but i dont expect him to change it. i dont mind if ppl just kick my beliefs in its butt, b/c they do have the right to do it and no one can stop them...but i like to talk to them afterwards and just solve be happy

love be with all
~ivan

yeah i also find the zeta kinda boring...lol []

great job doods!

~ivan

is that pic really you tish?

URGO...please...

DImitrius...are you URGO?...

anyway, you mind cutting down the usage of "yeah"? i feel embarrassed for you! [^]

man you lame...[B)]

This is truly a great thread! Very good posts and insights on whats happening. Now my view on it []

I personally havent felt anything going on except my own spiritual developement. The evil going on is never ending. I look over the whole evil thing and never let any evil interfere with whatever i do and they try, but never succeed. After reading this thread, it has opened my eyes on evil. I've never really paid attention to it but at this moment i do know what you guys feel as the evil...I do feel it present in my room and i do feel something is in my room with malicious intents. Ignoring them and not fearing them is great advice, and you can also call on your own guide to protect you, which it will do greatfully.

A different view that i have with you guys is that i feel something very positive is going to happen. I dont feel the negativity of the event, maybe because i have totally different views or maybe i am just ignorant. But the war has been going on since we've all been here...all we can do is prolong it until the breaking point where the 'good' side will overcome the evil. There is the duality of it all good and evil. There is another reason why i may not feel a lot of negativity because i have thrown what is 'good' and what is 'bad' out the window, but have realized that loving everything is more important than judging what is evil and what is good.  

The prescences can easily be conquered if you truly desire them to go away. Personally they dont bother me. This is true that the more you try to help the more you will be attacked but we cant let that bother us, but to keeeep on helping and loving. Love is what will defeat them, and it is your love that they seek. Yes, one can just blow them to kingdomkong but i prefer to help them out of the situation that they are in.

This war, will be peaceful []

Love be with all,
~ivan

I say screw the stereotype! It is true that highschool is where the most judgements lay and where people are always criticizing others, but its such a good learning place because of this! There may or maynot be a reason for societies greatest vices shown in highschool, but it is very fun to see and to learn from these. Here i am in highschool and im having so much fun just watching societies grip holding onto these poor humans! [] I try to enlighten them...but suprise suprise they deny and dont accept what i tell them.

But it is also good to subconciously slip lessons into conversations with people in high school.

Well...about the male stereotype Tisha responded very well with that but you cant do much about the stereotype, because we are men []

The stereotype that women dont cheat? Are you joking? Women are as faithful to their options as men are!

But i do agree with you that society has built up so many rules, regulations, stereotypes and judgements that wherever you go its inevitable...how foolish [^]

Love be with all,
~ivan

First off another great post by you squeek []

what i cant help doing is laughing. I laugh at every comment that says that the Zeta have bad intentions. I laugh at every little 'war' that goes on in this forum. Ramaya, you do not know much about the Zeta i presume? And yet you accuse them of being evil? I dont know you...so i think ill say that you have bad intentions and you are evil, am i right? (well lets hope i am) []

i have not personally delt with the zeta and i do not intend to, just because i dont feel like it...and that it doesnt interest me. But i dont think that they are evil AND i do not worship them as idols...[?]
No body here worships them, they arent "higher" then we are, they just know more and are still learning...we are all the same. Your fear is what makes you so blind Ram, your fear of the zeta blocks you from the light that we are trying to shed onto you.

Now, you must understand that I am not trying to sway you in any direction and that i personally dont care what way you choose, but i want to guide you onto a more enlightened path. Is it so hard to embrace the zeta? I have done so...and many others have too! Why fear? There is no reason to fear anything at all! What is fear? It is the lack on knowledge.

I challenge you to just embrace the Zeta and not fear anything in this world. May it be physical or mental...everything can be overcome and in the end it is for the best.

Love be with all,
~ivan

Jesus christ, you apply science so directly to such a simple topic that you make this seem to complicated! Its seriously like reading simple english.  But then you incorporate such advanced grammar that it shrouds the simple message.

We really dont need to make anything anymore complicated than it already is. Edi is only one person here answering all your questions. You should feel honored to have someone with this ability to help you.

Love be with all,
~ivan

just embrace it all! humanity is what you make it...whining and pining wont help [] But it does relieve some pent up anger doesnt it?

Humanity is on a path that is should be on...dont think differently, everything will be clear in the end.

Love be with all,
~ivan

haha T'uche edi []

[] be happy

if thats what you believe...how can you define spirituality? its different for everyone.

ahhh you have chosen well chill and i speak out of my ego and not my guide on this. I understand and feel your fear and stress. There is much to learned chill, you must understand that everything takes time, even love. I will ensure you that you will learn to embrace the light, for just posting that personal a post you've gotten a step closer. If you have MSN, please speak to me, my email is ivanhcwu@aol.com however if you have Aol Instant Messenger, my SN is atrwu3.

Chill, you must not worry about Mayatnik anymore. He forgives all and understand that many here in the forums live in the corners hiding from the light. We are here to shed the light and awaken all (or as many as possible ) YOU MUST also understand that this is NOT a cult, neither are we trying to recruit as a cult does or bring you in as a religion does. We are simply here to help guide you in your journey and help you out on making the correct decisions.

Love be with all
~ivan

lol please tell me your not serious! [V] if this may be a joke...it is very weak...[V]

QUOTE FROM CHILL:

You ask a lot of questions yourself WantSumRice.

A politician that has something to hide answers questions with questions.

Cult members and gurus will make you believe that you are either in a place of fear or love. If you are accepting what they tell you, you are in a place of love. If you are asking questions, challenging, investigating, pointing out what you consider contradictory, they tell you that you are in a place of fear.

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you know why i ask many questions? it is because i want to help you open your eyes and realize!

there is no need for me to hide, i know the answers to all your questions and you know the answers to your own questions, except that you wont ACCEPT that there is the possiblity that you know the answers...so you ask and ask and ask about the conspiracys and what not. I will tell you this, until you find the love and just embrace what is going on your answers will not satisfy you.

Also, i am not trying to sway you onto 'our side' (as you obviously think of it) but GUIDE and HELP you realize the infinte.

I laugh at your last paragraph. Do you not understand that this is NOT a cult, and no (what you call) 'guru' has swayed me in either 'direction', or made me feel 'love' or 'fear'?

I feel that i should not even bother writing all this out! But i care for all that deny and hate the light. I am here to help, I am here to guide, and I am here to protect. In the end, when you've realized, you will look back and think foolishly of your reactions and realize that all that was a learning process.

The difference between you and me is that I have learned to embrace and love all points of views, and all things. I've learned to be open-minded and not expect anything, whereas you flat out deny whatever is said. Have you thought about my questions? If you have, you should realize that the questions you ask are not necessary. If you have not, that is fine, it is your choice in keeping your eyes shut.

This is my final statement, I will help you greatly if you would only accept me...I will show you the light. If you embrace, GREAT! if not, it is only your choice, and i understand.

with much respect and love,
~ivan

Squeek, really you shouldnt be the receiver of any critism, infact no one of the board should be subjected to that. Chill, you mentioning that all the people that work with the pleidian are all young unexperienced and morons is very offensive. I personally dont take offense to that because I know that you dont know better. Anyone who directly offends anyone doesn't know any better...I understand that you have your opinions, but please, try and refrain from accusing people that they are morons. (i understand that you didnt want to 'offend' anyone...but you still said it...)  Do you personally think you are that smart?

Chill, i find most of your comments very useless! please, if you have nothing to say, then dont say it, same goes with mocking...

I know it must sound like im taking this too seriously, but infact it isnt a serious matter, but that doesnt mean that people and 'beliefs' should be shot down.

"Boy do I love biased opinions. I really do. It's the easiest way to figure out who beleives, and who is limited to beleif. It's fun to watch too"

lol squeek, you are the man!

I know i ask many (rhetorical) questions...but they are only to help you REALIZE that sometimes going with what is given is enough...digging too deep will not ALWAYS help.

respect and sincerity,
~ivan

My question there was directed to the questions that you asked me. About all the projects and whatnot...they are not important. What is important is how you perceive things. I understand that you are skeptic about the whole zeta deal, but why fear them? There is no point in fearing anything for that matter. It is your ego that is speaking, and we must look past that and you must feel your innerself...therein lie the answers to all your questions.

If you question their credibility what else is there needed to know? ALL information has been given to you, you just need to search for it around the site. Questioning the zeta seems like the new trend here at AP, and i dont understand why? I ask you, Why do you question their credibility? Why not just embrace it and follow what your intuition tells you!

I KNOW what life is all about, and i do not need reminders. Of course there is middle ground for skepticism. It is healthy, and it is the only way that one grows.

You ask me if i accept these? I go by my intuition and i do not accept nor deny the zeta, i understand their purpose here and i understand my purpose here, and that is all there is to know. Anything else is really...i dont want to say unimportant but i say it. You think that because all they say is love and compassion that i believe them? I have grown to take nothing personally so i will not respond. That just undermines my intelligence.

My friend, they are ready for any question you throw at them, it is the question of 'are you ready to accept the answer?'

I am truly interested to know why you fear them? is it because you do not know them well? is it because they are the unknown?

embrace all my friends!
~ivan

ahha great questions my friend, i would take teh time and answer them right now but i have ahead of me at least 2 hours of homework and its 10:30 pm.

just think about these questions: why do you keep asking about things that you are not needed to know about?

~ivan

here i ask:

why do you ask so many questions? more questions will lead to more and to more and to more! why cant you be content with the information given? why not just leave this site completely if you disagree? must you keep denying and taking down everyone until you will be satisfied? must you think so scientifically? where is your creativity? do you not KNOW that you can easily refuse this information without taking others down with you? is it sooo important that you do so? why do you fear the aliens? why do you feel anything for them for that matter? why not just believe what your intuition tells you and live by that?

finally, why ask?

with complete sincerity and respect
~ivan

i ask you: why do you think that it is so farfetched? why do you not believe that the mind can handle such things? do we so fully understand the mind and brain that we can determine that these 'zeta' are fake? who are we to say that all this is fake? who are we to say that chicken tastes like chicken and that the newpaper you held this morning was 'real'? what makes YOU believe that we dont need guidance? what makes you believe that we-are-so-great? when was it said that the zeta told us to kill our pets? why do you fear these creatures?

all this leads to, what do YOU believe life is all about? what is its purpose? why are we here?

with complete sincerity and respect,
~ivan

that is something i compeletely disagree with...i believe that the intuition is NEVER wrong because in the end everything will be right. I know what you are going through with the pendy, you dont trust it and ive been there done that. What helps is that if you just sit there and talk with it rather than asking heavy questions right away. Just pretend the pendy is a friend and chat with it. Think of it as a friend, if you dont trust him, he wont respond to you well...the pendy knows your state of mind so keep it at ease. That much i can tell you and soon your barrier will be destroyed and better answers will come to you and the usage will be easier.

~ivan

you shouldnt actually expect the warm fuzzy feeling lol, expecting things is something that i stopped doing because it just makes you focus on that one area instead of more important things []

But i havent tried the I ching either...could you explain what it is?

~ivan

I wish i could give you a definite answer for this one. There are too many ways that the Pleidian's help us! Infact they are always helping us in our daily lives even though we are not aware. They work with our subconcious mostly.

All information they give us is important, else they wouldnt bother giving it to us. It just depends on how you interpret that information.

The pole shift, in my mind, is something close to an enlightenment (this is the closest feeling i get to the "pole shift"). I dont believe that you should fear it or protect against it but just let it happen for it CANNOT be avoided. It is an inevitable experience that all of us humans living on this planet AT this moment ARE to experience. There is a reason why we are alive or on the earth AT THIS MOMENT.

~ivan

Ahh, I have sat aloof for too long, it is time for me to post

There is truly too much fear going on in the site now. There is undoubtedly no reason to fear, because in the end all will be righted.

kaz, you must understand that they are not trying to get information to us just through ONE person! They are helping us all, and all we have to do is listen! I am not sure, but you sound like you are closing yourself off from the help that they are offering...please don't be afraid but embrace what they are and their purpose. You CAN chose whatever you want to believe, that is a no brainer, but it all depends on what you want bestowed upon you. Many of your questions are very good, but could you reword or maybe even clarify questions 2 and 3? I couldn't understand them at all, therefore my guide was not able to help.

The poleshift is something that eveyone is SO worried about! Why?! Why do you WANT to shield yourself from it? Why is it that you think that it is so bad? Why do you think that you must Gaurd yourself from it? I say, embrace it, that will be the time when everything will make sense, and from then you will look back and realize that all that worrying that you are doing now is just a waste of energy! Instead, use that energy for better things

It is good to question everything, for that is the only way that trust is gained and knowledge is attained.

Tayesin: my friend, there are many things that are going on in the site right now, it has just experienced a slight drop. Like in a roller coaster after the drop is always an ascension things will get better, just bear with the site and keep the ideas flowing. Your skepticism is helping others question, and questioning is the root to learning.

happy days will come
~ivan