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Zorgblar,

I'll make this simple and hopefully clear up any concerns about the bible, devil, and
out-of-body experiences.

First, I have been a constant weekly projector since 1987 w.o missing a beat. I have had a my good/bad OBEs, educational, spiritual, you name it.

In the twenty years plus, because of my OBEs I a hospice volunteer to the dying, foster care mentor to a teenage girl, attend church weekly (christian), never been to jail, booked for crimes, killed anyone, pay my taxes, am a IT consultant, author of a upcoming book, guest speaker on radio shows, family orientated, adopting a child from china, stopp'd drinking alcohol socially, exercise, college educated etc. Okay, I have said enough..

If the devil is in anything of this - I fail to see it. Do I have my flaws "Yes" just like everyone else, but am I doing something about it to be a better person "You Bet". I don't pretend to know it all, but experience outweigh's opinnion.

First hand experience, education, and intent is the key to better understanding Out-of-Body experiences vs. opinnions and lack of knowledge. I am not bashing your loved one's, but like yoda said "Fear, Unknown, Leads to the Dark Side". This is where experience, education and "One's Intent of Projecting" come into play that removes all of this.

I sat down and set up a discussion with my local minster and he was with me on the Out-of-Body experiences based on my "Intent" and what I have done for the community. I thought he would start throwing Holy Water on me, instead he said that it is a legitimate religious tool.

There are millions of ways to reach God and help people... OBE is just another path!

What I said is available on my web site www.invisiblelight.us

Hope this helps!

tvos

Hi David,

I watched the movie just the other day. I liked it and like you said, it pulled at the heart strings! 

Another movie you might like is "The Celestine Prophecy". A little "New Age" but it tells a story that is ageless!

John

I rented the video out, watched it and honestly was weak IMO. Maybe the book is a better read, I don't know. But something about the whole movie didn't flow. Everything happened to quickly and was forced acting.

Well, I appreciate the info. you gave me on this - It is definitely a one-time movie to watch. There were some cool stuff in it about "seeing" auras, energy etc.

Tvos

Jezsika,

It is all about trial and error of learning. It doesn't matter who you are in this world, your experiences will always range from short to long lived. Even the projectionists that have been doing it for many years have their good and bad days at projecting..

Tvos

Jub Jub,

Long time no chat eh!

I read the book up to the fifth person then switched over to the movie. I don't know if it was me, the tv but my wife and I had a difficult time hearing the dialog over the background music.

Anyways, still a great book/movie!

I will check out your recommendation! I really enjoyed James Redfield book "God, and the Evoling Universe".

Tvos

Jezsika,

I respect the beliefs of all religions, faiths, and practices which makes this a interesting topic to discuss. I do not want to dwell into "who is right or wrong", but the truth of the matter is that we live in this world that there are too many opinnions trying to say otherwise w/o first hand experience.

Think about it this way - you study a course, master it and receive an 'A' for the semester. Now, you think that your ready for the world, apply your knowledge and conquer. But when  you take the first steps, you realize the experience is totally different. This is not what the professor told me, or that example does not fit this scheme that I studied.

This applies with spirituality and out of body experiences. It does not push you away from your beliefs, deepens them but also open you up to a wider perspective of what do people really know w/o experience.

How can someone claim that out-of-body, near death experiences are the devils work, or the wrong path to travel. Point blank ask that person - Have you ever experienced the OBE thousands of times?

Don't get caught in the trap that if I follow this religion, I won't project, or spent one month on binural beats and nothing happened. There are no fast food drive thru's to projecting - it all takes serious patience, time, practice, whole hearted passion and devotion with intent! I am a christian, follow God but I have a wider understanding through experience and am so thankful!

Technique's that are out there are great ways to introduce you to these vibrations, get you to feel what it's like. But your true inner-self will find a way to project, no matter what it
takes using positive actions. There are no magic pills to projecting!

Remember, this is a lifetime commitment, not something you strap on and the way you go. You have to give everything!

You are more welcome to visit my web site - www.invisiblelight.us You might find a few
ideas to help.

Thank You,

Tvos

Lume,

You don't have to travel into the higher planes to find God, angels, devas, beings of light etc..
In matter of fact, you don't even have to project to find God. It's in front of you, behind you, inner,outer, visible/invisible, high,low, between, beyond, past, present,future and so fourth.

Think about it like this: look at the world, the sun, the moon and how exact the alignment is, perfect w/o error. We need this to survive! So did man/woman create these planets? no.

Look inside the biological, chemistry, genetics, of a human being. Could woman or man build the complex structures, components that keep us running? Sure we can reproduce, give birth - but what brought us here?

Another simple example, look at the animal species and how many different breeds there are in the world. Can man or women make these different species?

When I first started projecting it was for fun, learning, crusing around picking up astral chicks burning a lot of energy.. But during the course of my twenty years at it, eventually you dive deeper into the spiritual components, study different religions, philosphy's, beliefs. When you base *experience* of projecting first hand and see what is out there and compare it towards the worlds beliefs and experiences. There is only one conclusion - there is a wizard behind the curtain and the different tongues of the world express it as *God*.

I have been blessed and honored to witness angels in different experiences and I tell you it really sends you into complete shock, lost for words, and absolute pure love and beauty of what is possible through the OBE.

There is no fast food drivethru to projecting- you have to work at it, be open, test it, challenge it and most of educate yourself. It all takes time, practice, trial and error and there is no arrival. Many of the best known projectionists have their good days and bad at projecting. There are times I have a split second I am out, but return or a good 5-10mins.. As long you can achieve projecting, learning the trick on understanding how it feels, works, emotion involved that will be your key.

I encourage you to document statstically your success and failures in a spreadsheet for tracking. I have done this for the last three years whole heartdly and can tell you my best times at projecting, what days, how many hours of sleep, validations, etc...

You are more than welcome to visit my web site InvisibleLight at www.invisiblelight.us

Good job on the successful projection - keep up the good work!

Thank You,

Tvos

Lume,

I know the feeling because I back in the day when I first started projected for 4-5yrs straight and then hung up the OBE shoes for a long time. There was nothing left of me, I had to focus on physical, and the energy for it was not there. I still projected but at lesiure and didn't put the commitment on me like I did.

It wasnn't til 3yrs ago I found my energy again, but approached projecting into a total different light. Now, I am able to project weekly w/o fail!

You just have to find that one important thing "God" and helping people in both planes....

Tvos

Definitely...

I liked reading the book first because there was more texture to it, emphasis on events that the movie left out. Also, the movie moved quickly and it was hard to develope emotion or key points with the characters. Still, never the less they did a good job with the movie..

I read the book up until the 5th person you met then watched the movie. It was a surprize - kinda of cool...

tvos

Friends,

Just finished reading the book "Five people you meet in Heaven" and watched the movie
prior. Even though it is a fictional book, but it is a good one and pulls at the heart strings!

A deffinite gem of the ocean!

Tvos

Lume,

Honestly, never tried it - let me know if it does work. But in all honesty, everyone is different when it comes to projecting. I have done a three year study on my food in-take, I document *everyday* w/o fail what I eat, drink, consume.. So far the star bucks frapacino's yield no results when it comes to projecting..

Anyways, back in the day I tried all sorts of gimmicks and found out that it was a mental crutch. It does not matter what position you sleep, what you eat, smoke, drink - if you have the desire, passion, conviction you will project.

Tvos

Zorgblar,

Text book reading, on-line forums can only offer so much. Think of it as a college course, you goto school, learn, but there is no hands on experience. Once you do have a wide awake OBE and experience multiple times you will know.

Asking questions is good and shows interest and intent. But to really chase the truth, experience it head on and you will know!

Tvos

Good Job Don and Thank You for the resouce of information.

Tvos

Friends,

Just finished reading Adrian's book "Our Ultimate Reality".

It is definitely a must-read book for beginner to professional.
The book reminds me of writing styles of Deepak Chopra and James Redfield.

Well written, documented, and not just another 'rushed' product for
attention. It dives deep into OBE/NDE/DBV, health, love, money, the ego,
spirituality, religion and how we should treat each other.

Well done Adrian!

Tvos

Be sure to consult your doctor if viagra is meant for astral projection.

Because it might have side-effects such as soul awakening, spiritual experiences and wisdom. never take viagra with alcohol, because it could cause dizzyness, intense powerful vibrations, voices whispering in your ear, and out of body experiences....

Women over 40 that smoke and are pregnant...

too funny!

tvos

program yourself everyday to test, question am I awake, is this a false awakening?

after 20 years, I still false awake and some of the best OBEs were FA's!

Tvos

Friends,

Thank You for the thoughts and condolences. Still never a less, the physical absence is a tough pill to swallow and it will take time, patience, and trials to heal! It's never easy losing your best friend, mentor to pain and age.

Sorry to hear about your father in-law passing Angela. It seems that the tide is turning and many people are shifting to their spiritual bodies. Just remember, your the one that has to endure the work, research and study for your own personal validation.

Tvos

Friends,

Right now, I am working on a publication of my mom's recent passing last week: during the month of February she had the near death experience, two death bed vision's (different locations, dates, and times). Also, a close cousin family member that picked up intuitively, changes when my mom was going to pass a week before. Take note: my mom at times was in and out of consciousness, but alert to sounds, voices, and small talk. This is not the traits of the dying brain misfiring dreamlets, memories, and a lack of oxygen that science explains that causes these experiences.

To read the reports and having the news jump on the band wagon of proof - along with science saying it's all in our brains, especially the angular gyrus being the culprit for these experiences. They fall short in experience and the documented evidence. You can base your conclusions on text book theory, but when experience intervenes its a
total different set of rules.

This is another experiement and test I am pursuing to experiment - show the comparisons.
If you read in the news article about virtual reality glasses and tricking the brain and not showing true veridical reality. Again, jumping to the conclusion that science can explain or try an attempt. What about putting individuals who do project regularly and who experienced the near death. Compare and contrast with different groups. 
Again, we would know what the results would be.


My mom was able to give my family a gift and her dbv (death bed vision) was impeccable for validation.

Look for my publication soon from my web site and posting here.

Thank You,

Tvos

yah right.. you want to smoke ganja and ride in the big black limosine..

Anyways, there are no magic pills for projection.

tvos

don't forget your Wheaties too!

tvos

Zorgblar,

That is good insight from Markulous. I fell into that trap when first projecting "why, where, when, how". You need to loosen up, roll with it and get down to business experiencing the projection. A lot of your questions will be answered by experience, patience, and time. I have been in the game since 1987 and still there are questions. You are tapping into universal god consciousness and trying to understand the mechanics of spiritual life after physical death. It is very complex and infinite - One can understand specifics, basic's, about 1% of lies beyound.

Most people who have had the NDE (Near Death Experience) have obtained more information, structure, cause and reason beyound what the projectionist can accomplished. Still, it is a complex reality that our physical brains can not fathom only able to experience brief periods, begining levels.

Good Luck!

Tvos

Zorgblar,

You sure ask a lot of questions..

1. You asked this earlier in another post. Drugs will not help you in the long run. Sure, it can
put you into a alternate state, but you won't be at your best at concentration and focus.

I have tried various technique - crystals, herbal smoke, beer, gizmo's to aid in projections. It is good
to explore what works and what doesn't - but do not become dependent on these things as a crutch to project. I will say this again and hope it resonates with you - It comes from within, the fire, commitment, and passion to project. You  have to be present 24/7 showing up and ready to work.

2. Telekinesis - I have not come across anyone who has projected and been able to perform this in physical
matter unless one is a magician at illusion. The spiritual plane (astral) its easy as 1-2-3 to manipulate objects and use telekinesis.

3. You can become a spirit guide "now" when you project. Don't have to die to be a guide. Read up on Bruce Moen.

Tvos

Zorgblar,

Its called vitamin a-b-c!

Tvos

get the book on audio then paper...

tvos

DH,

I am very sorry to hear about your loss! My condolences to you, family and the guy with the faulty breaks. I can't not imagine and again, sorry to hear.

So far I am amazed how (in-touch) the Native American Indians are to nature, animals, sun/mon and respect for race and creed. It's very sad to see how the europeans came over and destroyed everything they had. I know it today's world it's different and we can't go around playing the blame game, but this was the product of our ancestors.

My wife mentioned awhile back to me that America (USA) was founded on Christians values. When I replied to her - so killing, rape, murder, forcing people off their lands like cattle, slavery, forcing the Indiains / Mexicans in conforming to the Christian (Organized Church). So this is how the USA was founded and the values you speak of. I wans't trying to pick a argument but it's the truth. If the european settles didn't arrive to the USA, imagine what the world would be like today.

It actually upsetts me to think that how one religious faith practices by "sunday redemption of a offering plate, dominate the world with a bible and dismissing all other religions as a facade to God". I myself am a Christian but I take a wider view of experience and faith which is unfortunate that the church and bible has been twisted, manipulated, and blown out of proportion. It should be used for a guideline for oneself and not to control and instill fear.

This is what I am arriving at when reading all the other religions outside of christianity.

Tvos

Friends,

Just discovered Deepak Chopra and his writings!

I highly recommend this audio book.

Life After Death, The Burden of Truth

It touches on Near Death Experience, Out Of Body Experiences from a clinical to spiritual, religious
view. Along with what the other major religions Islam, Christianity, Judaism, and Buddhism teachings.

Very inspiring!

Tvos