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I read it, thank you [}:)]

I think I've said this before, My first Martial Arts Sensei always said, "There will always be somebody better than you, stronger than you, faster then you, smarter than you, and if you happen to be the best, even the best have bad days."

That isn't a negative attitude, it's a little thing called humility.

When I win battles with my attacker I don't see myself as omnipotent and indestructible. I won for now. I keep in mind that I can be overpowered at anytime...I don't know every damn thing. It enables me to deal with the attack when it comes so I can be flexible, adjust...they're called coping skills

Claws and teeth are not going to overpower a guy who gets a high off of it. He prides his mental skills and doing things that rip away that pride are the answer.

Can we please make this a sticky, or have a sticky folder.

Now I'm disgusted. This is a thread from the Ten Thousand Roads Site on CRI and how some people have decided to use it.

http://www.tenthousandroads.com/wbbs/WBB.cgi?board=proactive;action=display;num=1058058072

See the thread called Remote Influence. Does it exist?

You can not tell me this is moral!

Your senses are not things you can dissociate from, unless self is going to disentegrate altogether. Don't give me this crap about CRI being equivalent to TV commercials influencing you.

Mick,

Thanks for the article, where do I start with the problems I have with it. []

Might as well just talk about it here since you mentioned it in your last post.

One thing my experience with my situation has taught me is that data can be applied in a variety of contexts. Morehouse's book was the first one on remote viewing I have read. He explained his version of the events that were brought up in Schnabel's article...and with all due respect to Mr Schnabel, Morehouse's account sounds more credible, Schnabel's account of the events sound out of context and deliberately slanted.

Everybody jumps on the book deals and the call my agent crap as if everyone who writes a book makes a fortune. That's just not the case.

I personally want to see the Mercedes alledged in that article. Did he even talk to Morehouse's lawyer? I need to recheck that article.

The other problem I have is if he did all that "inappropriate behavior" with the other soldiers wife,...what are they saying, that was the first time? Why don't you hear behavior like that in the past. C'mon after three Tailhook Scandals one has to wonder. But they're alledging this horrendous behavior on the part of Morehouse and what, it just happened, all the sudden, out of the blue, after years of a spotless record and performance?!

It just sounds like the same old crap, someone comes out and opens their mouth and they're countered with this bizarre series of stories about their persona...sometimes it's worse than any UFO story concocted.

Hate to say it, but I'll forego on that letter to Lyn Buchanan, I think any potential respect for him just went out the window after reading parts of his book and reading that article.

Typical,

This is why I post findings...books always present the nice face not the behind the scenes gossip.

Ok so what's the gripe Jim Schnabel has with Morehouse? Isn't Jim Schnabel the one who wrote the article "Tinker, Tailor, SOldier, Psi" for, was it The Times? Would you by some chance have the article or a link to the article? Could you also provide detail into why Schnabel is critical of Morehouse? What happened, and is the information trustworthy (a loaded question in itself).

I was getting better, and I was breaking away, then something else happened. I can actually hear them now instead of the dopey "test voices", ie, I'll hear a matter of fact male voice say, "OK, I have a hook in her right thigh, let's give it a try" followed by a second male voice saying "OK, let's start the test." They seem a tad upset by this along with the fact that I can also hear whoever is giving them grief. The other night I woke up and heard (in the dopey melodramatic test voice), "[Dark Knight], we have your social security number, and your credit card numbers, and we'll make sure you never existed." Having been threatened with just about everything at this point I asked, "Does that mean you'll make my $5000 credit card debt disappear?" The voice continued making some barely audible threat, when all the sudden, the dopey test voice disppeared and was quickly replaced by a frustrated, normal sounding male voice, "Now what! What do you mean we can't do that, why can't we leave her destitute? This is a war!"

The voices were getting less audible, but it sounded like my perps were trying to convince whoever that what they were doing was in accordance to free will, and whoever was on my side wasn't buying it. I didn't quite get the rest of the conversation, but from the jumble of voices and what context of conversation I could make out, it sounded like someone (on my side) was saying, "If you take this route, you will be stopped, if you persist, this is what will happen to you."

It's a war of words, contracts, and nuances, that's all. They start talking and let their conversation either go so far, and cloak it to micmic ending it. They don't, and use that to their advantage in making invitations to me...don't usually know it until after the attack is in full swing.

The key is to get out of the lab, out of the test, out of the experiment, which I am assuming is happening now as I hear more of the "real" voices instead of the dopey "test" voices. The more I hear of what they are really saying, the more I can take action through laws of permission, the less I get tricked when they try to impersonate my guide.

Not as long as you have weaknesses to exploit [}:)]

Holy Cripes, Sahlyn, you're right...It's on page 134 of PPSD.

I recognize some of the links you provided, Courtney Brown's page and Lyn Buchanan's page most notable. I'd also recommend:

http://www.davidmorehouse.com/page/page/541685.htm

Spectral D:

As usual the information you give is great. From what I am reading though, CRV is not what is being used in an attempt to kill, it's CRI. Any data on that potential I doubt would be officially documented.

So the shield around me is only an "Astral Shield" not one that goes all the way through. That would explain a lot...and I'm being ripped from the inside out? OK, let me look up some of the sites you gave, finish up some research on my end...and I have got to write that letter to Lyn Buchanan,...among other things.

Well, I was looking for one thing and found another...

AIf you have Robert Bruce's book Practical Psychic Self Defense check out pages 107 - 188 for warnings of various types of Psychic Attacks.

None of them are lightning fast, but they are "early warning" so attacks can be caught at earlier stages and coping skills can be developed.

That's why I'm a chemist not a physicist, James []

I'll leave the physics lessons to you

Crim were you near anything that could act as a grounding unit at the time? Electrical Socket? (God help me, Physics was 8 years ago).

Crim,

Ugnh! Nuts, well it was a nice try anyway. THanks for the heads up.

Guys, identifying your signs is about as bad as putting up a picture of yourself for someone to use [B)]

Beavis,

You mean like what, when the conscious and unconscious mind are actaully communicating with one another on a noticable surface?

http://www.paranormalnews.com/article.asp?articleId=281

I found this on the internet.

I think I'm going to start composing a letter to Sargent Buchanan.

Another question:

I checked out psipog for articles on remote viewing and it had no articles.

The book is called "The Seventh Sense" by Lyn Buchanan. He was one of the Remote Viewers for the US army's Project Sun Streak. Sargent Buchanan speaks about a form of Controlled Remote Viewing (CRV) called Controlled Remote Influencing (CRI). CRI was a technique he was developing on the side...as a defensive measure not a malicious one. It sounds similar to what I was describing in my first post, gaining access to someone and influencing their thoughts, which sounds eerily like what Robert Bruce was describing in his book.

Buchanan doesn't go into a whole lot of detail, all he does is mention he was developing it and was approached by certain upper ups in the government to use it to kill certain "undesirables", which apparently can be done.

So, in adendum to my question in the first post, has anyone out there heard or know anything about the History of CRI?

Excellent site, Nay...I'm shocked you were reading. I've bookmarked the site.

m0d0, another gemstone I'd recommend is Hematite, a person on this site who has been through hell with a Psy Vamp recommended it and I'll let her explain why if she wants to. It works, it really does.

As a person with money problems I know how difficult it can be to get money sometimes...

But if you can get one book in addition to Robert Bruce's book, I would suggest Psychic Vampires by Joe H. Slate.

There are a few people here that have been attacked by Psy Vamps and You'll probably hear from them.

Have fun in the Astral

Thanks, I'll check out the link.

Attachments...Oh God. Can Vary.

The ones in my head often come with a stinging sensation almost like a bee sting. Others just come off feeling like pressure. There's a lightening sensation when it's gone.

I believe people can be used as conduits to launch attacks without their knowledge.

quote:I had a really devastating neg approich me. He told me something that was really bazarr. He said, if I can remember correctly, that the fate of this world depends on me. really weird.

Ok, thing about negs and their lies...or half truths maybe I should say.

You might have a valuable gift to give people, doesn't mean that the fate of the world rests on your shoulders. It also doesn't mean your gift isn't valuable either.

A lot of us have incarnated here to be of assistance and we have gifts that come as a result of lifetimes of experience. I was going to fight in race relations before all this happened. My specialness wasn't in a title it was in my heart, and I'm not the only one on this planet that has it. We all have it. That's what fueled me in race relations. I felt in my heart that people were good and the sacrifices I made wouldn't just be made by me for others, but that others would do it for me. It was a profound sense of love that connected me to life.

When the attacks started, my perp tried changing my mind about my role, trying to mentally convince I was above all else. Mentally it didn't work, never bought into the idea I had status because of a title. I was not watching what was happening to me in terms of the emotional channeling and blocking. My sense of connection was being blocked and all memory of it's existence was gone. I had couldn't remember what the specialness in my heart felt like anymore as a result. What I was being pumped with were feeling of specialness in terms of entitlement.

Thoughts and feeling combine in associations, that what makes positive associations and affirmations work. Well, mentally I was telling myself title didn't matter, meanwhile my emotions were saying other wise. The thought and emotion combined and made an association. I didn't check the feeling I was experiencing because the mental thought was "correct", status and title are not what's important. I made an association unknowingly, I assumed because the thought was correct the feeling associated with it was also correct. With no way to feel anything out, I only had my mind to work with.

I fell like a rank amateur, and had no clue what had happened or what I was actually doing until the download when the greys, my guide, and angelic entities came and showed me what had happened and what I was doing as a result. I was disgusted, both over what was done to me and what I had become.

If you have a gift to give others, just remember a few things. Specialness comes from the heart, and being aware of that specialness doesn't make you better than others despite what other insecure people may try to tell you (And if a person really believes you have to be high and mighty to help others that is indicative in my book of a "status and title is stronger than heart mentality"). Don't let any person or entity try to prod you into thinking otherwise. Not recognizing the specialness in one person, namely yourself, denies the specialness in all of us. Suppress it in yourself, you'll go out of the way to suppress it in others...hurt a lot of people in the process too. We are all capable of feeling the specialness in our hearts, and attempts to squelch it or belittle it as something other, when in fact a great deal of good can emerge, is one of the worst sins anyone could ever commit.

When Martin Luther King confronted white America, he was accosted repeatedly, "You're so negative, what gives you the right, How dare you, You think so highly of yourself, blah, blah, blah." Why? People didn't like seeing or hearing about things requiring change. And pressing the issue means you might have to stay in a dark nasty place for a while...but that doesn't make it negative. It's life. Martin Luther King, Jesus, Ghandi, they were people not statues or names of streets.

The world is not going to stop if I can't complete what I came here to do...I was shown during the download that the info would be channeled to someone else and they would take over where I left off.

That's how high and indispensible I am.

Depends on the entity though...

Most people attacked by negs can do exactly what you've suggested and youa re absolutely right, it will work. My God, you wouldn't believe how fast they run.

But then there are others that have a high threshold for pain, and if they hate you enough for reasons given in Robert's book, maybe you were a priest that exorcised them, maybe you're going to teach people something that would spread a lot of light around the planet...etc.

The other problem is, if you're attacker is human, sending light to them will only work if they are open to it's influence, free will and all that. I tried doing the light and love thing to my attacker...it sent him energy he used to attack me with.

Each situation is different, but most entities will run from an attack.

Cinnabardk,

That's a good question. I've been attacked through forums but never heard (or hope) not attachments through forums.

Ignore this it's not really here: (Cinnabardk, sit back and watch...but don't expect anything spectacular it died after Nay's original post [])

Ignore me too, just gonna watch Nay flap her lips, that's all that needs to be done. There are other ways of winning arguments Nay dear...and I know how []

Enderwiggin is right...status is not indicative of needed respect or more knowledge. There are lot's of one timers that fly through here who demonstrate a tremendous amount of knowledge and experience.

And "banishings" are referred to in Robert Bruce's book, Practical Psychic Self Defense. I'll find the chapters and pages if you want.

Robert Bruce...the guy who set up this site.

If you're so worried of soing something that resembles "witchcraft" what in the hell are you doing here?

No, I don't think so...

I spoke to Robert Bruce about this once because I was afraid, if I died as my attacks were still going on, would I go to heaven or would my attackers get me?

Robert told me that he has a friend who wrote a book all about the death experience (I lost the title when my hard drive crashed). From what he says, death is a far more complex experience than we even realize. No, you won't be taken. The only way they can take you is if you willing go to them.