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i really couldn't say, my knowledge on the subject is limited.

i looked at the site and it looks pretty legit, but i don't really follow christian mysteries anymore, so i don't know.

I read.

that's too long for me to watch right now, but i will.

it still makes me wonder.

did we get to this point just because we didn't know any better and just used whatever was cheapest in our foods without considering the effects on our body?

and naturally, because i'm a paranoid conspiracy researcher, is this stuff intentional?  to keep us sick, lethargic and easily controlled, thereby making us sicker because of lack of exercise and such, thus ensuring that the medical/pharma industry keeps booming?

just thinking out loud.

very interesting indeed.  absolutely, thank you for sharing.

have you studied gnosticism as a mystery tradition before?

in the mystery tradition jesus is not alone, he is accompanied by his "mate" sophia (wisdom).

you might enjoy looking into it.

i read some books a few years back that were pretty neat in that regard, "The Laughing Christ" and "Jesus and the Lost Goddess".

do not take offense to my response.  i have some apparently "extreme" views of psychology and i have encountered some serious hostility in response to my perspective.  i should also let you know that i have a bachelor of psychology and study psychology on my own as well, so i'm not uninformed when i make these statements.  in truth, my views aren't extreme, they are simply opposed to the disease model that is the normal treatment right now.  people like to have a disease to blame, it takes responsibility for their conditions away from them and places it on an intangible enemy.  so it's not surprising that some people react so angrily when i tell them they don't have a disease.

anyway, to my point.

so they told you that you have aspergers and OCD, understood.  the way modern psychologists/psychiatrists like to look at it is that you have a disease, caused by your genetics and neurological functioning that forces you to behave within a certain list of predetermined characteristics that define you as aspergers/ocd.  I call bulls*it.  if i could "diagnose" you, i would tell you that you have a personal history that has conditioned/programmed certain behaviors in you.  however, one of the aspects that i consider (that they do not), is your soul and the energies that contribute to your behavior that physical science doesn't recognize or acknowledge. 

it's easy to say you have a disease and medicate you.  it's easy to tell you that you have to perform your rituals or you will encounter debilitating anxiety (which you have undoubtedly encountered).  what isn't easy is to tell you that you are responsible for your mental health.  you say you have tried to handle it, but you can't.  and i don't doubt that in the slightest because no one teaches us how to really be in control of our own minds (some conspiracy buffs might even say that is the point).  but it is your responsibility to heal yourself because no one else can.  it will take intense discipline, which is very difficult when the type of discipline needed goes counter to your compulsions. 

what you need to do is learn how to turn your intellect inwards and observe your emotions/behaviors/compulsions/conditions.  you need to become astutely aware of what is happening in your environment that will illicit the emotion or compulsion (or whatever you want to call it) and refuse to react.  the majority of people in this world have no control of themselves AT ALL (even if they think they do).  we are all just reactions, nothing more.  we react to our environment unconsciously and then think that it is just our emotions which are out of our control.  this is not true.  we can be in complete control, but it takes time and practice and no one teaches us how handle emotion when we're growing up.  each and every one of us are basically narcissistic balls of reaction, we're not real people.  but we can be.

so for some actual practical advice.  if you don't meditate, you need to.  regular meditation allows you to rise above the emotional pendulum of physical reality.  it allows you to realize that you are not your body, your body is your transportation.  don't get me wrong, the body is important, it is your partner and needs to be well taken care of.  but you will be much better able to do that if you do not identify with your emotions and realize that emotion is a physiological response of your sympathetic nervous system to it's environment.  your emotions/feelings/compulsions ARE NOT YOU.  one of the laws of reality taught in hermetism is the law of rhythm.  everything ebbs and flows, including your emotional reactions.  if you are able to rise above the rhythms of the physical reality you will not be afflicted by "diseases" like aspergers or OCD. 

i can not tell you exactly how to do it.  for that i am sorry.  but that is the nature of the journey, it is your journey and you have to figure it out.  but i can assure you that through quiet inner reflection, the answers will come.  your self knows the answers and it will help you, but you have to listen.

well, that's my two cents worth.

yea, summerland is a pagan name for the otherworlds.

welcome friend.

forget about kundalini awakening, seriously.  forget you ever heard the concept.  it's silly.

the people who have bad experiences with it somehow forced themselves into an unstable, ecstatic awakening.  many of them didn't do it intentionally, but they still led a life that created the situation.

a better way to understand what "kundalini awakening" is, is to think about it as just plain energy development.  by using a program like the one outlined in Selby's book, the process is slow and steady, as it ought to be. 

I assure you that there will be no adverse effects if you take it slow and work on energy development regularly.

Also, it is not that I *need* to be right but more that I prefer to be right. (why would anyone want to be wrong?) 
[actually some acquiesce in a "can't we all just get along" sense, but in the end that is counter-productive, imo]
I have been Seeking Truth since well before half the kids here were even so much as an itch in their daddy's pants and I have gotten pretty good at it over the years. I make no apology for that.

I also get a kick out of watching folks of a certain rigid, elitist, superior mindset react to seeing their false assumptions revealed like the Wizard behind the curtain.

Oh I think you need to be right, lol.  I think I need to be right too though, so it's not a dig at you.   

And I understand the joy of poking people, but all truth is only a half truth.  the other side of the coin is always equally true.  it's not an ambiguous cop-out, it's the nature of reality, the nature of that polarity i was talking about.

I also don't think that length of time seeking truth is necessarily an accurate portrait of wisdom (though I don't think that's quite what you were saying, so my apologies if i put words in your mouth).  I'm only 25, I've been seeking truth for about 10-15 years, but I often have found myself showing elderly seekers a thing or two.  For example, I have a very good friend who is a 62 year old christo-pagan wiccan priest who has been seeking for the better part of 50 years and I schooled his old butt daily when I lived near him (though he equally schooled me on other subjects).  Point being, don't let yourself fall into the elitist power trap either friend.

Hey, PR is it typical gnosticism your into?

The gnostic movement did a workshop in my city but I was only able to go to the first night. They've disapeared back to London now and dont plan on coming back. It's a shame because it sounded like the stuff they were into could have helped me.

I've been wanting to buy a book on it but the ones on amazon look like they might just be talking about the history of it and such rather that the actual techniques and meditations.

I dont suppose you know of any really good books on the subject that you could reccomend?

I wouldn't say that gnosticism is my thing.

It's a lot closer than many other paths though.

I guess Hermetism has had the most influence on me lately. 

The book that I recommended to CFT (Walkers Between the Worlds by John and Caitlin Matthews) talks a little bit about Gnosticism.  But really, that book explains the two major eras of consciousness evolution on earth.  In the "before time", consciousness was related to nature, it was communal consciousness. This is typical tribal consciousness.  In the tribe, the shaman was the spiritual leader, but the whole tribe functioned as a spiritual whole.  Then we moved into a transitional period (which we are still partially in now) where consciousness was individual.  The community was broken down and the reign of individual consciousness entered.  The modern era of consciousness evolution is cosmic or universal consciousness. 

So this book breaks down spiritual practice into two sections, tribal and universal (shamanism and hermetism).  Unfortunately, during this period of individual consciousness, we have lost touch with the ancestral consciousness of our fore-bearers.  This book first teaches you practical techniques for going into the "underworld" (the realm of ancestors and nature, the dark feminine).  The second part of the book goes into the modern mystery traditions (Hermetism) and teaches modern practical exercises. 

Beyond the practical exercises, this book helps you to understand what spiritual practice is really about and how consciousness is evolving.  I have to be honest, it is probably one of the best books i have ever read, and that's saying a lot (i have a library of nearly 300 books, and that's not counting books that i've read and passed on to others over the years).

I would also recommend The Kybalion.  It's a cheap and relatively short book that you can get on amazon or even probably download somewhere free.  It's a primer on the basic tenets of Hermetism, which is really the beginning of modern mystery traditions and what most modern occult traditions are born out of.  Ever hear "As above, so below"?  That came from Hermes.  The law of polarity, Hermes.  The Law of Correspondence, Hermes.  Law of Attraction, Hermes.  All of these new age fads, they are just regurgitated hermetism.  if you are in the right time on your path, this simple book puts a lot into perspective.  I highly recommend it.

I read every single night before bed.  It cured my insomnia of many years.

And I think describing the various OBE states as "experiences of an inner reality at varying degrees" is a good way to put it but using the mathematical "=" sign is going too far. They are NOT 'equal'.

you have to consider the context rudy. 

in the sense that they are all experiences of the same "place", an equal sign is entirely appropriate. 

as far as the content of each experience, they are different, but again, they are just different degrees of the same thing.

hot and cold are just varying degrees of the same thing.  hot and cold are the same thing, 100%. 

we're talking polarity here, physical <----> nonphysical.  both are the same reality seen from varying perspectives, but they are still the same.  once you see this you will understand that everything is equal to everything and everything is the ALL, bottom line.

beyond that, you are splitting hairs. 

however, since we're talking about this, it's not really practical to try and distinguish between modes of conscious experience or degrees.  we can perceive these differences, sure, but just like there is no line on the thermometer that differentiates hot from cold, there is no definite distinction between each mode of conscious perception.  what i experience as astral projection is not what you experience and you cannot deny that.  it's the nature of subjective experience.  the degrees of variability in polarity are infinite and subtly different.  so in my opinion, you're arguing over something that can't be definitively proven. 

but whatever, you like to argue your point and i get that, i do too.  you need to be right. 

hey rudy, would you be willing to give me your birth information?  i would be interested in seeing your natal chart.  if you are, i'd need your birthday, birth time and location.  i understand if you don't want to, it is a bit personal and this is the internet.

yea, the website doesn't exist anymore

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What you mean by this, it means THEIR subconcious are going to react this way, only because MY subconcious was primed with this, therefore explaining that thing of the "psychic influence" ? If yes then indeed i noticed that, i think the only solution for this until i am able to get rid of the desire to play such games or watching those tv shows, is just to LEARN to be present and able to accept when they get angry to me, i notice that sometimes i AM able to control myself on that aspect even on these "bad luck" days. By the way what you mean by "willy" ? (my native language isn't english) i think i already heared that expression before but i can't remember what i means.

the forum censors "profanity".  it considers the word d-i-c-k profanity and replaces it with the word willy.  i meant jerk basically.

your subconscious is primed with these ideas of "hostility" and your behavior corresponds.  your boss' subconscious then picks up on your behaviors (all of the nonverbal communication - tone, body language, attitude, etc.) and they react accordingly.  neither of you are consciously aware of any of it, but it's happening.  the majority of our interactions are nonverbal, and if your subconscious is primed with a certain idea, it shows in your nonverbal actions.

To me phasing and APing are the same thing. Can you give an example of "  "phased" the way most talk about it" so  can understand this better?

And yes, I have said here before that I think the LD is not just useful but often MORE instructive and revealing than a simple OBE.

it's all the same thing.  it's experiences of an inner reality at varying degrees, that's all.  nothing complicated about it.  so, i agree rudy.

there is another neat little trick you can use involving a pendulum.

if you don't own a pendulum you can make one with any sort of weight on a string.  my first pendulum was a cork from a wine bottle with a sewing needling stuck into it with a piece of thread through it.  you can use a pendant on a necklace, a fishing weight on mono-filament (fishing line), pretty much anything that is a weight on a string.

on a sheet of paper draw a basic outline of a human body and write your name over it.  draw a circle or dot where each chakra is located.  hold the pendulum over each circle and say "show me the activity of this chakra".  the pendulum will spin in a circular manner (clockwise, counter-clockwise, doesn't matter) and the speed/intensity of the spin will indicate the activity of the chakra.  fast means more active, slower means less active. 

the goal is to be balanced, to have all chakras active to a moderate degree.  you don't want them to be too active or under active, just a nice, STEADY amount of activity (steady, stable, is important).  if you like to read books, there is a fantastic book out there that teaches you to not only do work on your chakras, but teaches you to sense the energy within them.  the book is called

"Kundalini Awakening: A Gentle Guide to Chakra Activation and Spiritual Growth" by John Selby

you can see and purchase it here

http://www.amazon.com/Kundalini-Awakening-Gentle-Activation-Spiritual/dp/0553353306/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307632115&sr=8-1

to this day, this is the best book I've read on chakra work bottom line.  i love this book and usually read it at least once a year just as a refresher.  i still use this guy's meditation program at least every other week (should do it every day probably).  point is, i highly recommend it.

good luck friend.

don't let the beliefs of others stop you from doing what feels right to you. 

welcome to the pulse.

firstly, congratulations! 

when you start projecting, it's like waking up in the morning.  you're a little groggy at first and your vision might not be so great, but it gets better the longer you're awake.  also, you're already really familiar with waking up in the morning so your senses return pretty quickly.  alternatively, you're not very familiar with projection, so it will take a little more time before you get your wits about you completely.

keep going!

You can find the full technique in Sylvan Muldoon's "Projection of the Astral Body"

i don't know the context, but ap is the pinnacle of magic.

only the master magician can properly and effectively project.

I need to add a disclaimer before I say what I'm about to say.  I am in no way belittling your experience.  I'm quite sure that it was significant to you and for the purposes of your further development.

That said.

You don't need to analyze every little energy twitch you get.  Sure, it was a new experience and it was something you can't readily explain, but to be honest, there is absolutely nothing we can say to you about it.  As you develop more, you will get random energy sensations out the wazoo.  Seriously, all day long, weird tingles, pokes, throbbings, waves, pulsations, vibrations, altered vision, vertigo, etc. etc. etc. will happen constantly.  It's just part of the process of becoming aware of the part of your life you've been taught to neglect all your life.  But at the end of the day, there is no standard energy sensation, thus there is no standard explanation for any energy sensation (despite what some kundalini crazed junkies might tell you....ohm). 

My advice.

Don't ask someone else what an energy sensation that they didn't feel means.  It's like an emotion.  Only you feel your emotions (exclude consideration of empaths for the moment) and only you know what they mean for you.  Same thing with energy sensations.  I assure you that you will progress much much faster and more thoroughly if instead of jumping on the forum and asking us, you turn your mind inward and ask your intuition, your heart, what that energy means and what you need to do next.

there is a simple psychological explanation that requires no metaphysics or other hocus pocus.

it's called priming.

your mind is primed with a certain scenario and you subconscious leads you to act in a corresponding manner.

you play violent games or watch violent tv and your subconscious is primed with anger/violence/pessimism/etc.

for a certain amount of time afterward (different depending on you) your mind allows for scenarios that correspond.

your boss isn't being a willy, your behavior and attitude for the day will now illicit that response in him/her.

this is the psychological explanation for what the new age movement calls the law of attraction (though they sometimes include an aspect of nonphysical/psychic influence - like you're "sending out vibes" or something; not saying i don't believe in such a thing, but it's not really necessary for an explanation of this situation).

I'm curious about your idea of the mundane life and stability within it. Without getting overly personal, could you expand on this a bit?

there's nothing terribly complicated about it.  i just mean that you should be relatively stable before you undertake a great deal of "nonphysical" activity. 

if you're having a lot of emotional problems then you should get those in order before practicing something as taxing as projection.  have your "household" in order.  if you're struggling to make ends meat or you're just financially irresponsible.  if you don't exercise and you eat badly and those behaviors are effecting your life in a 'negative' way.  you need balance before you are in the proper position to attempt projection.  i'm not going to say that young people shouldn't try AP (i started when i was young and i'm still only 25), but anyone under 20 to 25 is physiologically chaotic, they are undergoing puberty.  their hormones are whacky, they're still growing, their sleep schedule can be extreme compared to an adult (biologically teens need to go to sleep later at night and sleep in later in the morning), and emotionally they are typically immature and lack the control that accompanies mastery of one's self. 

again, i'm not saying that if you're young or have a hectic life then you shouldn't practice spiritually.  by the standards of my previous example of the occult orders, i doubt that any of the members of this forum would qualify.  but we live in a different world than that of our ancestors.  we are expected to manage many different aspects of life simultaneously. 

the point is that your inner life is dependent on your outer life just as much as the reverse is true.  i think that often times people think that in order to develop these skills that they seek (psychic phenomena and spiritual development), they must devote themselves to the inner world and that the mundane world is less important if not completely irrelevant.  this just isn't true.  our reality exists as polarity, everything has it's balancing pole.  the physical and nonphysical (mundane and spiritual) are two poles of one whole and you cannot neglect one in favor of the other.  if you are unhealthy physically (in whatever sense you take health to mean) then you will not be able to develop properly in the spiritual realities. 

i don't know if i already said this, but i'm reminded of the four stages of life in hinduism, the student, the householder, the retiree and the hermit/sage.  you cannot move on to the next stage until you have sufficiently mastered the previous stage.  if you'll notice, the sage or spiritual master isn't undertaken until the 3rd and 4th stages.  before one can master their spiritual reality, they must first master their mundane reality.  i used to think that was silly and i would just skip to the end because that's what i valued the most, the spiritual experience.  i didn't realize that the entire life cycle is the spiritual experience and each stage is an integral part of recognizing one's spirit and embracing it.

Got this link from another forum.  Thought I'd share it since so many of you are obsessed with sleep paralysis.

http://www.esotericonline.net/video/video/show?id=3204576%3AVideo%3A202440&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_video