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The first thing I would do personally is to get some proof for myself! i will go into my flatmates room and mention something in there which i wouldnt know was there and then ask them in the morning!
Also I wouldnt mind a short trip to the akashik records!

is it not possible though to move out of the immediate area of the physical body where the cord range doesnt effect you as much so you can stay out for a wee bit longer?

                       Lysear

i think it sounds dangerous to practice sleep deprivation for too long but it sounds like a good short term technique, like once a fortnight?

                  Lysear

I think that Astral projection isnt just the ability of the few but everyone! we do it every night remember! All you need is the real belief that you can achieve it and you will. It worked for me (sort of) with my semi-concious projection and it was one of the most amazing experiences of my life. I'll put this to you, I have never had any super human abilities or psychic powers but what i do have is a belief in the power of my brain, be it Muldoons crypto concious or subconcious or whatever you call it we have no Idea of what it can do yet!

                       Lysear

Spastral my fellow englishman,

I tried out your program last night in bed (with my cordless headphones) and I was pleased with the results, after 20 mins i got into a state of relaxation i rarely reach (or never!) It wasnt quite trance but not far off. I also tried the deep self hypnosis program built into the bwg and it was also good but didnt do as much for me.

Anyway thanks for the program, I recomend it to everyone.


               Lysear

miaow! I dont think all scientists a arrogant, however you do get arogant scientists like you get arogant priests,rabbi's, fast food workers, and of course projecters!!

              Lysear

i still hold my belief that getting into trance is the toughest part! (although I admit I have never had a full concious projection!) although i did get a little way with the tapes last night

Its always tragic to lose someone I recently lost a relative and I can relate to the pain that maoli's parents must be going through. All my prayers are with them.
                          Joe

i don think all are one, however I do believe that all come from the one, everything from one source so maybe to that extent we are all one. However we are all capable of independant decisions and actions. Its a tough one

                        Lysear

i think what these people did is absolutly disgusting and to kill children ! sometimes I despair. However one of the more chilling factors is that it shows how easy it is to do and that scares me more than anything.

                 lysear

yeah I'm with you coral 1! I got the ahem! download yesterday and blew the dust off my old cordless headphones and i am gonna start experimenting with different frequencies
 

              Lysear

all thats needed then is a way to separate what you know are your thoughts from those that just pop up randomly, then some of those may be directly from the astral?

                                    Lysear

I suppose this board is good for that though, after a while of reading posts it gets imbeded in your subconcious and you desire it more and more until it happens, thats what I'm counting on anyway!


                                       Lysear

its dead tough to actually try it when you wake up early as I'm finding out. My worst habbit is my laziness and its a challenge to get up at a decent hour normally!!!

sounds to me like a dream, but like to said when you dream you are slightly out of coincidence anyway so who knows. May have even been a prophecy, you should check out the prophecy and divination section

                    Lysear

sounds interesting, are you in a sort of trance state?

sounds good, I'll email you

Hi everyone, I dont aggree with what napolean says either, i mean if we project every night theres bound to be a way to do it conciously!

however it seems that napolean is being lynched slightly! he has made a series of valid comments. Surely the purpose of this forum is to provide a discussion area for projection and related topics, therefore comments such as those by Napolean can only improve our understanding of the subject matter? am I right, if you think differently please tell me because I'd like to hear your opinions

             Lysear

so what your saying is that to achieve trance it doesnt matter what you concentrate on as long as its something.
Sounds good to me thanks

        Lysear

i've heard that early mornings the best a couple of hours before you normally wake

over the past few days I've read numerous responses about this brainwave generator most being positive, is it possible that this is an extemely important step forward in projection or is it just me getting ove excited?

             Lysear

dont i know obe is a long process! I have been trying on and off for 3 months! my current affirmation about wanting to dream of flying seems to be quite effective to the degree of one flying dream every 2 weeks but even that is losing its momentum! i recomend buying the book by sylvan muldoon and Heward Carrington. I read that continuously for a week and it gave me great techniques and I dreamed of projection or magick every night!!

        Lysear

thanks for that I will gove it a try. My problem (one of them) is that I go for one method then after a few minutes I get impatient and try others and I just end up never getting anywhere


         Lysear

i can see where your going with this, sometimes you'll daydream and feel lost in that. Also I find when I relax myself then try and imagine walking around my flat i really get into that and it can take me to the edge of a deeper state of relaxation.

just out of interest what was the program you used?


          lysear