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Most of the greatest discoveries that have come to humanity didn't come about by meditation. But rather by thinkers in the sciences and arts.

I mean don't get me wrong. Meditation is great. Some people benefit from it more than others, but it's only one focus on all that is.

You know I've seriously considered just sacrificing all my time into meditation if we get a UBI universal basic income. But until then I still need to work a job and pay the bills, write books, and discover new and better truths. Perhaps one day I will discover meditation as my best truth. But I'm not there yet, and that is perfectly fine IMO. I have made peace within myself without meditation being front and center.

DUDE!!

I'm not telling you to go find a cave and sit there meditating for years on end... take 10 minutes a day.  Think you can spare that? 

I know you'll probably say something like "I never said that meditation would solve the worlds problems." Prove me wrong. Maybe I'm misunderstand something, but if you can't even talk to me about some of the most basic spiritual ideas then how I find it hard to believe you'd give a much different answer for even marginally more complex questions about real world issues.

Just meditate dude, just meditate.
Your mind is too noisy to do anything.

Nobody here can help you until you figure yourself out first.

You said "And stop thinking you have control over ANYTHING."

It all starts in the mind anyway so yes if I can't control "ANYTHING" that includes thoughts.

You weren't asking about control in regards to thinking... you were asking about control in regards to your LIFE.
There's a massive difference there.  Clarity dude.  It's important.

Anyway... back to the regularly scheduled thread! 

Dude... my god... first, we never spoke about controlling your thoughts, at all.
and... secondly... *sigh*... never mind.  You really do only hear what you want to hear. 

The only real thing I told you is that YOU THINK TOO MUCH. 
Just STOP EVERYTHING you're doing... you can't even help yourself and you're wanting to write a book on matters of spirituality?!
Forget about writing books dude.  Just MEDITATE.

You're not going to grasp ANYTHING by over analyzing this stuff.  Less is more.

And please, if you're actually going to quote me... QUOTE ME... don't paraphrase.  >_<

So, in the light of what's going on... I'm directing my meditations towards the goal of helping to heal ourselves from the coronavirus.

If you're meditating, throw a bit of intent towards that goal.  Every little bit helps.   <3

Every so often... humanity surprises. 

Maybe we JUST MIGHT be okay.

Oh sweet!  Less work for me.   

Thanks!  I'll check it out.

I know their are organizations like the "Global Heart Initiative" that focus on Worldwide events. I don't think they use an "App" though!  It sounds like a great idea!

My thoughts are if I get laid off of my job or quarantined, I'll try to program something. 

I apologize for "hi-jacking" your thread here Xanth. The things I said needed to be heard.

No worries at all my friend! 
There's nothing you said which I disagree with.
I enjoy seeing as threads change and morph over time!

I was just thinking...
I'm not talking about an app to help you meditate, but an app to help coordinate a global effort to coordinate meditations among everyone who wants to meditate towards a certain goal?

The app would allow you to create a "group" for a specific goal (example: you want to put your energy into world peace) set for a certain time and duration, to which people could join and add their energy to that specific goal?

Does anyone know if such a thing exists yet?  Ever hear about something like that?
And next... would people be interested in such a thing?

Thanks for sharing your wisdom Xanth.  It's still happening btw, I just get out of bed. There is no awkward crawling out anymore or untangling from my physical body. You said that the physical is the illusion. I really hope you are right... because life can be very painful and from what I've seen of the astral... well... it's so much easier and more beautiful.

Thanks again. 

Just a quick one... very rarely does "easy" make you any progress. 
That's part and parcel for why this physical reality (and ones like it) lends itself to being a "consciousness growth fast tracker" in spiritual pursuits. 

Thanks, I appreciate those comments. I'm not going to read this experience the way it appears as I have been fooled a time or two but...

Haha!  Your wisdom is showing!!  Eeeeeeeee! 

It really seems like a feedback loop with media reinforcing social media which then reinforces the media... which then reinforces... well, you get the idea.

Honestly, things would go so much better if they just shut down all social media for a month and if the news outlets just REPORTED instead of telling us how to feel.  LoL

We all know what's going on in the world today... so, just please... be kind to each other, help people in need, SHARE if you have an abundance.
Be the change you want to see in the world.  Every little bit helps.

Just wanted to say that. 

I'm still APing, just a little different lately. My exiting strategy has gotten easier for me for some reason. Instead of having to creep out of my body like a sheath, I just go to sleep and when I'm tranced enough, I just get out of bed. There's no more physical body that I have to crawl out of. This makes my APs much easier but I really wonder what happened to that pesky physical body. What I think is happening is that I'm exiting on a higher plane... a plane where the physical body is no longer on the radar.

I know this is a bit late to the discussion, but I wanted to touch on the above.  In my opinion, it was never really there to begin with.  Remember, all of this is an illusion and your physical body is all part of it.
You're just realizing that you are not your physical body.  You may have understood this on the Intellectual level... but now you're starting to understand this on the Being level.  You've experienced being aware without your physical body so often that you're probably thinking a lot less "physical" these days and it's beginning to have a further impact upon your growth.   

Oh man... if I knew back in high school what I know now, I certainly would have pursued a different career.  LoL
Something to do with Space, for certain.

At this point in my life... I think my dream job would have to do with something regarding the ocean somewhere warm, like Mexico.  Haha!

I read your Ebook last night and enjoyed it quite a lot. I learned a lot and was very surprised at some points that were made.

They're not really surprising when you look at them from the perspective that most of what people THINK they know about projection started with Robert Monroe... and in the time between his first book to his third and final book, even his beliefs changed in huge ways.  I just took those beliefs and drew them out to their inevitable conclusion.  Robert Monroe was ALMOST there... I took it the rest of the way.  I have no doubt that he would have eventually came to the same conclusions as I.  Read his third book if you haven't already.

So are projections just dreams but with astral awareness?

Yes, however, I would flip that slightly.  Astral Awareness is a dream (non-physical experience) where you're as aware as you are right now while reading this.
I use the label "dream" there though, yet the understanding needs to be made that we humans have NO IDEA what a "dream" actually is.

Within the framework of my book and my experiences, I can tell you that what we call a "dream" simply doesn't exist.  A dream is no different than the physical reality experience you're having right this very second, you're just unaware of that fact while you're experiencing it.  So then, by extension, what people call an "Astral Projection" is also no different from this waking physical reality, you're fully aware.

That brings me to this physical reality experience... it's a projection as well, no different from any astral projection you have.  We experience it in a more stable way because there is more than just you experiencing this reality.  It's a conglomerate of the experiences of all the conscious entities (you, me and everyone/thing else) combined and stays existing simply because of the number of entities creating and sustaining it.
If all conscious entities were to leave this physical reality, this reality would cease to exist.  This reality is simply one in an infinite number of realities.  Some physical, some not physical, some incomprehensible while we're in this physical form, because you can only experience something from within the confines of your current understanding and experiences.  This is the subjective nature of our experiences.

I'm still trying to digest all this information as most things that I've researched on astral projection don't even mention anything about the different types of awarenesses.

And they won't because most people learn what I would call the "Classical" view of projection and consciousness, which is seriously lacking. 

I'm glad I came across your Ebook. I used to meditate and the longer I would spend meditating the more I would find myself being more drawn into the void, I would go deeper and deeper. By reading your book it sounds like I was sort of unintentionally trying to Phase.

You nailed it. 

It's gonna be a good year, I think. 

And when you were talking to "source"... were you expecting a verbal answer in reply?
Remember, answers can come in any way, shape or form.  Be open to whatever happens.

I'd say you're definitely on the right track. 

fb groups on this subject were a disaster. I saw so many people arguing etc... i dropped fb and haven't been back. everybody knows how to contact me... and i would rather just hang out and read stuff on the pulse

Yeah, definitely stay far away from Facebook when it comes to this subject.
You simply can't have a meaningful discussion there without vast quantities of slag being tossed around.
It's quite a verbally violent platform. 

You'll find it in his book: https://www.amazon.com/Explorations-Consciousness-Out-Body-Experiences-ebook/dp/B00XPUT98Q/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3GP1OSIIGPW9&keywords=explorations+in+consciousness&qid=1570192694&sprefix=explorations+in+conscoius%2Caps%2C253&sr=8-1

I thought we had it on the forums somewhere, but I guess not.

I'll take the blame. I must have broke something when I turned my notifications off, lol!  Oops! 

*shakes fist!!* 

I would say send Adrian a message, but is Adrian still alive?  He seems to have gone dark from the Internet for several years now.

Haha! 

Yes, Adrian is most definitely still alive, he and I talk from time to time on forum matters. 
He's just extremely busy and doesn't have the time to do the day to day things anymore. 
He does keep a good eye on the server the forum lives on.

I'd actually take that one step further (c'mon, you can't say you didn't see this coming ) and say that all experiences you ever have are healing opportunities.

But yeah, nightmares in particular allow you to experience something extremely fearful to you in an environment where you're actually perfectly safe. 

You'll probably find still around the bruce moen forum if you want to reach out to her. Dont think she frequents this joint anymore.

Nope.  Ginny did stop back in here a few years ago, but I guess things just didn't agree with her here.  No worries.

But yeah, last I saw, she's over there.  I'm not sure what's even with Bruce's website now that he's passed on though.  I honestly haven't been over there in years.

Oh and floriferous!
Nice to see you back around.  Hopefully sticking around for a bit? 

I honestly never used them.   

But it doesn't surprise me... the forum software is getting really old now and I think we're lucky it's still going.
It's old because the database doesn't seem to want to update properly.  So meh. 

There isn't really anything anyone can do.