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I liked the last description best, personally. I think technology could test that the easiest so more people could believe it.

The most important thing though is I think I've learned something, or at least had new thoughts about the soul because of this, thanks guys []

Lastly, I'll make a new thread like this by monday. Gives me enough time to make a doosey!

Well, I wish this topic didn't exist essentially twice. Waste of server hard drive space both of em are since time doesn't matter [^]

I love you dearly lau lauz...but but my my heart heart is is broken broken right right now now due due to to reading reading your your post post twice twice

The following is gathered info via my study of the energy forums:

Jing is compressed ki. Psi is sometimes considered the same because it is similar to it, but they do have different properties, according to a few tests at least (psi is more "sticky" and easier to control, but less powerful).

Shen is pure spiritual energy, thought to be a gift from both heaven and hell at the same time.

I would say shen is the most powerful, but if you could combine all of your energy at once, if you can access all the types together...the result would be even greater imo.

This is how I look at the various energies right now. If I'm wrong about any of them, let me know so I can update my mental registries!

Well, from the top of my head, necromancy is the idea of manipulating dead things to do what you want. Frankenstein was created via necromancy.

However Necrokinesis...this would be an interesting idea since you could reenergize the dead, making them active again. I believe draining someone with evil intentions of their energy to keep them from doing their plots, like maybe an astral shadow or demon, would be allowed if that rule about good intentions was true.

Remember, all things are important in life. We protect ourselves with knowledge (if we know about this, we may be more apt to control someone with intentions on using this for bad, since it was discussed at one point). I ALSO think revitalizing dead tissue COULD be used for good, although I wouldn't persue this myself just yet (anyone else get a shudder from the thought?).

What is Akashic? I mean where did this term come from? It sounds very very familiar

Well, in recent news, I'm still tired!

Anyways, I don't concern myself witht he lumps...the seem to be a byproduct of working this stuff. A few weeks ago I had a spider bite looking thing on my left wrist on top, still healing. And since I was about 12 I've had a small white ball in the pad of my left pointer finger. If you want pictures...I can get em

I've been working on having oobes as much as possible. I was at work today and I get sudden rushes of dizziness now, but these actually disorient me (well if you're just standing around and you get dizzy, you'll probably get disoriented too!). I'm about to get some rest, but force myself awake for as long as possible, almost strain myself. I'll probably give in, but at least I tried again for like the 10th day in a row.

Delusions of Grandeur involving this stuff can make a bored person much less bored However, if you actually succeed at those delusions, what then?

I haven't had much activity at all at recalling my dreams, I just assumed I stopped alltogether until I got to this site, since I was out of energy and such ALWAYS after EVERY night of sleep (dang you, Star Trek!)

Anyways, I got this wierd lump in the middle of my right hand now, not sure at all what it is, it isn't a blood blister or anything either.

I thank you for that Riso, I think even with the vagueness and ever-changing nature of things that some stuff may never be known about "how it works". What do you mean about Alexandria though, Logic? I think it would contain MORE info than that famous icon ever had.

Anyways, if it's changing just like everything else, what about it sets it out to make you KNOW it's the library? Are there more libraries like it on higher planes as well?

Sorry I haven't posted regarding my results...I sort of lost this thread thinking all hope was lost at first. I found that I had to actually click on my name...and you know, how silly of me []

Ok, over the last couple of days I've been gathering my energy back up from the "outburst" I seemed to have done unintentionally. I dunno if I gave my energy to a shadow, or what, but it was fight or flight so ugh.

I'll look at that page tomorrow, I'm going to try working on filling my main chakras with energy all at the same time to see if I get more of a benefit from it. Mostly I'm just exhausted, so hopefully by the end of the week I'll be back to normal.

No matter what you do, it is your path...no one can take your path from you, not even yourself. So where does your path lead then? I've read some posts about the astral plane containing answers regarding the future, so check there.

I don't mean to be passive about your exact problems, but seriously, most of us have probably experienced something similar or worse. Would anyone like to share some of these things?

I think I've been relatively lucky myself though, despite 10 years of depression, that nasty skin condition, some sexual molestation as a 5 year old, and we can't forget about me still not being the social type. What I tend to do to counter these in my head are all the good things about me. I am athletic and have a naturally high metabolism, and I've recently found a strong link between me and my dad, not to mention having artistic skills, and a strong spiritual sense regarding where I'm going to go.

I can name several things off the top of my head that you both have. You have access to some of the richest stories and how-to documents right here on this website. You have several people willing to make you feel better, in addition to helping you. You have your spirits and your youth, but even then that's given, you have your interests too...no one can make you a social person, so stop trying and do what you have to do.

My prayers go to both of you. Is there anyone else out there willing to pray with me?

JustLikeThePill...
You mean in that electronic foggy mist on the back of the eyelids you saw a 3d artichoke? All I can get is puffy clouds wherever my eyes move. Is there anything you do to actually see images easier?

I'd say these "visualization" techniques are one of the major reasons schools to learn this stuff are often discredited, simply because they don't work very well, as described in the NEW. People think visualization is using the 3rd eye in some form more often than not when they start out.

Anyways, here is a sample visualization "class":
G'morning class! Today we'll be working on evergy building! (yay) Ok, everyone calmly get into a comfortable position. Now close your eyes, and visualize your spine is a rod with the ground and tap the energy from there. Breathe in and out as you think about this...in...out.

Now class, I want you to picture a giant pulsing ball in front of you, you can see it through your eyelids and it's quickly flashing blue and white...blue and white. Now grab it and hold onto it...slowly visualize yourself pulling it to your stomach and it's lifting you high in the air as you're doing this...(and so on)

The reasons why I don't like methods like this, is not only are they vague to the beginner, but they build energy too slowly unless you know EXACTLY what you need to do to make something like this work in your mind. If you still want info on these techniques though, I suggest you invest in a cheap meditation book (well I mean cheap as in low quality, there should be quite a few at amazon.com), or look for "Guided Meditation" courses in your area. I wish ya good luck, and don't let my pesky opinions get in your way either! Have fun [8D]

Aye, Fyrenze is correct, the everything exploration is why I'm here. I could say anything is a dream solely because there will be a point I'll forget even typing these words!

However, to fight for the idea that the astral realm is a dream, I'll say that I haven't personally experienced it yet, so it still doesn't exist to me.

Overall, I think we all need to realize one important detail. It's what keeps me moving towards my personal goals, and that's that everything you imagine or dream or think of for a spark of a second exists in some form! Given this, we have to accept that the astral is real, right?

Well, same thing man. I had to reply to this because your results are very similar to mine.

I just registered last night, am posting to this board more than any other board in my life, solely from the results I was seeing. Given I haven't really had a being of great power come to me, but I think I have had a few. I feel like a newborn baby sensing that subtley pulsing fog that seemingly out of nowhere forms over me, like a kiss to the eyes, when I work on oobes. Or this morning when I held my slightly developed hand over various chakras when I was running to "keep on going" even though I had no physical energy left; that really impressed me.

Well that's all I'll say for now. Ramiel I think you're advancing faster than me though, and I thought I was moving fast! []

To me the scenarios aren't wierd at all. I get them very rarely though in real life, but of course I'm crazy around here for having "those" dreams. I remember when I was about 10 I had a dream of being in my great grandmother's house that was SO real, realized I had to go pee, so I went to her bathroom and...you get the idea [:I]

So, I take past embarassments and learn from them! I hope all of you do too, I controlled my physical body from the scenario state! Wewt! [xx(]

Hmm, trying to think how a mild tickling would work...I mean it could, but it would take sooo much practice. No more than 2 weeks or so of never scratching I think.

What's more interesting, my right pointer, the very tip has a dull pain now, almost like that growth pain everyone gets when they're younger. kinda cool too...maybe I could slightly focus on it as more important when I get an itch. I'll let you guys know asap if that works...(Major Payne says: "I can show ya how to fiax that broken leg...let me just see your pinkah..." "ahhhhh! my finger!" "yep! works every time!")

Oh yes! BTW I needed to kill 2 birds with one stone...test edit AND tell ya guys about this. I have SOOOO much energy now, physically, is that because I'm excercising that part of me that never got excercised before?

Not sure if this helps. I read another post relating to another webpage describing the telepathic window technique and I got to the end and saw the party tricks section, thought it would be a good read. I saw the aura section at the end of that and tried it in a slightly dark environment on a black background (for this I even had to turn my monitor off!)

Anyways here's what I saw when I looked at my hand. There was a thin purplish-blue border around all my fingers (against the darkish grey wall) and then I got the whomping haze from my cones being burned out. Blinking helped the haze go away, but I reverified my results about 5 times with constant focus changes and realized it wasn't a visual trick, well to me anyways. I'd say the proof is in the puddin', if you're hungry.

Why would I choose Celery like I did? I was sitting there with the image of a freshly cut one in my mind and I was like what friggin veggie is this again? And like 5 seconds later it came to me...reason why is I relate to both yellow and green at the same time a lot, and I hate it so much and scream when they're always in my soup...so I've payed more attention to celery recently than carrots. But by astral I hate bell peppers more than anything! Moo is for milk, and yes cows drink milk when they're young!

I think I thought Red and Green at the same time
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No worries I will when I decide to invest in a copy! Give me a week or two or something. The thing is it's nearly impossible to forget about them! Only when I try to relax is when I get the amazing sensation of the itch on top of another itch...feels amazingly annoying!

Anyways, I probably could've found a guide of Robert Bruce's method somewhere in here. I was mostly asking if anyone had different approaches to them, not just complete ignorance.