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#51
Blurry vision is probably caused by latent subconscious thoughts that propose you shouldn't be able to observe the non-physical with "eyes" as a point of perception. The reason affirmations work is because they counter the subconscious thoughts and dis-beliefs in your actuality to perceive another world without your physical eyes.
#52
Awesome guide, very informative!  :-)
Amazing art too- really captures the mysteriousness of an OBE
#53
Strange, I've had a few experiences where the clouds were red too.
Maybe your difference between LD and OBE is dimensional frequency? On higher planes (OBE) it tends to be easier to manifest.

In my opinion OBEs don't consume energy that needs to be replenished (as Psan said), but are a never ending cycle. The changing factor is age. With a higher age comes more responsibility. More responsibility=more stress=less time focused on achieving OBE state.

The more thought put into astral projection=the more time your subconscious will be thinking about it. We truly create our realities (especially in the astral). Regularly doing reality checks throughout the day will help too. Before bed focus on what you wish to learn and experience.
#54
My opinion is that our physical universe is of attraction to those in the non-physical because of its material aspects. Here, we can really see our potential as entities of our multi-verse. We start with nothing and work our way up in society.
To realize reincarnation one has to realize that "time" doesn't follow any linear direction. All lives of ours are being lived here simultaneously. Imagine a spider web. In the middle (where the spider lies) is our grand source of consciousness (our higher self). The web splits out in every direction possible. From each position on the web there is a path back to the source (just like how "all roads lead to Rome") Our true consciousness is forever connected to each of our incarnations. Other lives of ours can even directly affect the one in which you find yourself now.
So, we DO have a recollection of every moment of our existence on the Earth Plane (or any plane for that matter). It's just at our level of consciousness right now we can't observe these moments. We're stuck in the now. Perhaps subconsciously other decisions and events in other lives are affecting our choices at the "present."

Quote from: NickisDank on June 19, 2011, 20:46:55
Apparently there are energy beings that never decided to take on the challenges of earth, so they can you know view earth and follow it's span, but what the hell do they do all their "life" as a soul just wondering the universe until they decide to experience earth, or are they free to adjust to whatever frequency?
It seems that many energy beings I've encountered have no memory of a planet "Earth." They seem very unintelligible and pretty much go about living their dream. Many may simply be confused, but some seem to be very low forms of intelligent life (probably forms created by a beings imagination). Other beings, however, have a larger access into their true consciousness. They exist on higher planes where they use the natural creative forces to . . . create. Yes, they live for the sheer aspect of creation. But, don't we all?
As to the frequency, I believe they naturally drift to whatever frequency fits them. If the frequency is high enough (giving more access to the grand consciousness) they may very well be able to visit the Akashic Records and experience everything.
#55
I used to project not nearly as much as i do now. .
When i was in 8th grade the possibilities began really opening up for me when i started meditating every day for at least 45 minutes. I'd just get used to a trance state, and go as deep as possible. Sure, there were many times i fell asleep when doing this, but it has seemingly helped me today in getting into the right state.
#56
It was the vibrations. At sometimes they feel soo real and brain rattling one could swear they're from the physical. A very strange phenomena indeed.
#57
it was probably an energy center (third eye) that was active at the time
#58
I think you shouldn't be so selfish. As karas said, "a letter to her loved ones is more important than winning the lottery."
Who knows, maybe the spirit is testing you for genuineness, and for an altruistic attitude.
You should go ahead and contact her daughter (if this isn't a fictitious story in the first place). You've got nothin to lose  :-)  
Maybe the spirit would even supply you with the lottery #'s afterwards..
#59
You have all the DMT you need inside your pineal gland
#60
There aren't any shortcuts, just practice. The more you get used to achieving the state you speak of, the easier it'll be to reproduce in the future.
#61
Chart: http://www.robertpeterson.org/obe-vs-lucid.html

"OBEer is a passive, objective observer. "
my site: http://fluidexistence.us/February2011.html
see: 2/8/11 projection #6
I had a conversation with a man in a machine on my driveway (after previously projecting straight out of my body) about my perspective on what he is doing to what he was doing in "reality". my perception was completely subjective.
and
http://fluidexistence.us/March2011.html
see: 3/22/11 projection #5
(This was a OOB where i found myself OOB. I'm including it to compare the two, because it seems you fellas would deem it LD)
I was speaking to a man in a factory (I had never seen before) about his appearance. It seemed that my subconscious thoughts were shaping the features on his face to resemble my father. He disagreed with my perception of him.

"OBEer perceives him/herself as separated from the physical body, which is inert and thoughtless. "
http://fluidexistence.us/january2011.html
see: 1/14/11 projection #5
In this projection I may have been remained conscious in both my physical and astral body simultaneously, which proved RB's mind-split theory for me. My physical side was not inert and thoughtless, but in sleep paralysis and thinking about how i shouldn't move in case my astral side was out exploring..


But these examples just demonstrate why some portions of the chart are not true to actuality. They don't exemplify why LD=OBE (except the comparison where in both a "LD" and an OOB my perceptions were not accurate with what those around me perceived.)

The chart claims that in a LD the physical body is not visible while in an OBE the physical body is usually visible.
The reason for this difference is extremely simple: After immediately projecting out of one's body the projector finds (usually) finds them-self in the RTZ or close to the RTZ. Here many aspects of our physical world are similar, and their physical body WOULD be lying in their beds sleeping. As the projection progresses the projector finds themselves "slipping" into higher dimensions (you may be interested in my Dimensional Theory: http://fluidexistence.us/Dimensional%20Theory.html). In the higher dimensional frequencies one would not see their physical body because they aren't in the same "area".
In an LD the projector finds themselves OOB after they have naturally progressed to higher dimensional frequencies and thus, would not see their body lying in their bed.

If i have more time tomorrow I'll add other examples. There are a few I'd like to touch on that deal with manifestation in the astral  :-)
#62
The chart is extremely inconsistent with my experiences.

There's no use in arguing about the matter, either of us will not conform to the opinion of each other.
It's for the projector to decide, and only him alone. Only he can establish his side of the argument based upon his experiences.
#63
Quote from: Rudolph on June 09, 2011, 19:30:56
Becoming lucid during a dream and waking up outside the body are not even close to the same thing.

Not even close.
What do you base your opinion on?

Becoming lucid in the non-physical state is an OBE, as you find yourself literally out of your body in a different environment.
My first OBE's only occurred in this manner. I'd simply find myself in surroundings either familiar or surreal. These surroundings are exactly the same (the same "laws" apply) as if I'd project out from my physical body.

Quote from: ElectromagneticMan on June 09, 2011, 12:22:54
btw has anyone ever woken up and your in a sleep paralysis state but also trying to come out of your body at the same time? and your in this very frustating state of trying to move? I think i was near the ceiling one time just floating there.. stuck.
Do you mean that you are floating out of body and paralyzed at the same time??
#64
Quote from: uhsumdumboy on June 05, 2011, 20:06:56
I live in New Jersey by the way...
dude, same here!   :-D

Last summer i was obsessed with viewing the future lotto #'s. I tried a few times for the mega millions and on one occasion actually got half of the numbers right.. (won like 7 bucks..). coincidence? who knows. . .
#65
Quote from: Lightning on June 06, 2011, 21:06:13
RTZ = foggy, dim-lighted most of the time, and moving around feels weird. Like watching an old dusty film with some frames missing.
I experience the exact same phenomena. Very unusual isn't it?

I only experience exact 100% literal real time zone when meditating with astral sight. For a moment (not even a second) after I project out everything is still 100%. According to my theory the reality fluctuations are caused by slight dimensional shifts.
The term RTZ is amazingly broad in the sense of how we use it. . . Some use it literally, while some apply it to any experience which holds some similarity to their physical realm.
#66
Quote from: Jilt on June 06, 2011, 19:32:02
In nearly all my encounters I tend to remember us speaking as we would normally in the physical so no, it wasn't telepathic. However, also like in the physical, the 'counselor's' body language and general loving vibe was something I picked up intuitively.
ok, thanks for the reply, the only reason i was asking was to compare it with my experiences with the "counselors" or nurses in my case. We usually communicate telepathically, and on one occasion i knew her name (janette) before even consciously communicating in any form.
#67
Quote from: Rudolph on June 06, 2011, 17:20:22
... I think most here would say that is classic RTZ. Stuff outta place... missing stuff, extra stuff.... ALL standard in the RTZ.
Not in my book- The RTZ is exactly what it claims to be. A Real Time Zone. Everything here is exactly the same as in our physical dimension. The vibrating rate is just slightly higher than the rate in which we find ourselves now. When projecting here one doesn't find themselves to have any sort of body. They are simply a point- an observer. The problem is, most people never find themselves in this strange area which copies our dimension and project directly into a zone with a vibratory rate slightly higher than the RTZ, where they may manifest some sort of body, or vehicle, to move with.
#68
Very cool Jilt,
quick question: When you were speaking with the counselor did you find there to be any telepathic thought communication between the two of you?
#69
I too sense the drastic change from RTZ(or very close to it) to astral. It happens so suddenly. Just turning around quickly can cause the dimensional shift.
#70
Interesting replies,
Many of you speak of another "dimension" of the color as either luminosity or vibrancy. I've experienced this too.. however to me it's as if a golden tint permeates every object. Just as Xanth said- it's subjective.

Contenteo- It must be amazing living with music-color synesthesia. I myself have a low form synesthesia of relating numbers and letters with their appropriate colors.

Most of us not seeing any absolutely *new* primary colors raises the question about how much of our environment, in the OBE, is actually generated from the subconscious mind. We could perceive our surroundings as a meadow whilst an entity next to us perceives themselves in a black hole. . .

#71
Hello everybody,
I've been reading about projectors experiencing foreign colors, off our known visible spectrum, in the astral. For this to happen they must be in a somewhat objective environment, so their subconscious mind and physical influences don't affect their perception.

Has anyone ever experienced this phenomenon? If so, where you able to bring back the memory of the color seen?

Do you guys think it's possible to bring back the memory of a non-physical color into the awareness of one's physical mind?
Try to imagine a new primary color -It's impossible! The new color/s seen would be absolutely indescribable to anyone but yourself.
#72
Quote from: Pauli2 on June 05, 2011, 17:43:21
No, a BST is a place where discarnates may end up. It's part of Monroe's Focus Levels:
During our sleep at night we can enter our own BST's though, the only difference is we don't continuously loop through them.

Quote from: Reb3LAng3L (Theron) on June 05, 2011, 14:46:00
so my bst would be what i described the guy teaching me to go into?
Aspects of your BST would be your creation of good vs. evil battles in the astral, where you find yourself being beaten up or fighting others, and the  :evil:.



#73
Quote from: Reb3LAng3L (Theron) on June 05, 2011, 00:20:42
what is OBE and BST

OBE= Out of Body Experience
BST= Belief System Territory (a place manifested by one's own thoughts, and structured according to an individuals thoughts)
#74
It's very difficult to meet friends on the astral plane. I've been trying for years without success. If one focuses on a specific person they should be able to enter the locality of them.
#75
Robert Bruce developed an easier form of Merkaba meditation, where instead of the revolving pyramids, one revolves two body length tubes around the body. One tube is rotating clockwise, while the tube around it is rotating counter-clockwise. He speaks of entering a "merkaba lightship" once both tubes are successfully spinning at the speed of light, where one may travel to any time, dimension, or any portion of our universe.

I've never tried it, but it sounds very interesting, and easier than the traditional method.