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have you tried mentioning it to her? if she believes in magic and whatnot, telling her about the readings might help her out, but if she doesn't believe in such things then telling her might make her more distant from you. or perhaps suggest she start carrying mace or a small knife or something in her purse for protection against generic bad peoples (ie, don't implicate her boyfriend but make sure she is protected none-the-less).

and also, you might want to read material on how to deal with and help rape victims so that if it does come to pass you'll be there to help her as much as you can.

~kakkarot

um, freefaller, i think you're misinterpretting the line between "not liking" and "hating". Homosexuality, according to the bible, is not Godly. And if you don't agree with that, then you obviously need to read your bible because this one point has been quoted from the bible many times in this thread.

and that's not to say that God can't both love the person and hate the acts they are involved in. because He can, as can you and i.

~kakkarot

and what could all the world give you that God cannot? the world is useless and will pass away, God is eternal and all powerful and can and will give you everything you need to live and be happy.

I've never met mother teresa and have only seen a few fleeting handfuls of pictures of her, but i have seen sacrifice and caring for others. The whole

quote:I can remember when I thought the idea of sacrifice and service seemed noble, but a loving god is not interested in us hurting ourselves, denying ourselves or treating us like butlers or housekeepers.

is misunderstanding what those sacrifices are and doesn't realize that God DOES look after His People and DOES give them good things. a sacrifice is giving up something which is important to you, possibly for the benefit of another, but that doesn't mean God cannot or will not give you something good in return for your kindness and/or devotion.

How much MORE would you be kind to someone if they lost something important to them, in order that they could good things for you?

and note that a "proper" sacrifice or kind deed is NOT done simply because the person expects to recieve said "good things" in return. a true sacrifice is something important given up without the expectation or desire of getting something in return.

~kakkarot

actually, the act part is the easiest part of it ^_^

Stop. Most people seem to be balls of mental confusion to me, having multiple streams of thought on their mind at all times, and while that's not neccessarily a bad thing, it does create problems when you are trying to implement a solution for your immediate situation. Therefore, you should stop everything you are doing and thinking, and just let your mind sit in calm emptiness for a few moments.

Think. After your mind is calm and at ease is when you should think. This is when you should focus upon the immediate situation and gather both general and specific information which are relevant.

Think only about the immediate situation, not beyond. Think about the entire situation, not merely parts of it. These two are subjective items and where their limits are is up to the discretion of you. After gathering information about the situation, then you would (normally) process that data and finally use that processed information to determine all possible solutions (However, I instead make a short mental jump to the end and figure out how I want the situation to turn out, or how to solve whatever problems there are, and then process the information towards those ends.). And the last step of this stage is to decide which solution you will implement.

Act. This is where you merely set about accomplishing the solution ^_^. All the details of the solution should be determined and/or decided upon in the "Think" step, so this stage should merely be doing, not thinking.

and lastly, a note on the difference between determine and decide. though likely everyone knows that difference while looking at the two side by side, the difference can often be forgotten in the real world. When you determine something, you gather information and try to figure out what the information is. When you decide something is when you are given a choice and you conscientiously pick one of the choices, usually based upon many factors and priorities. so an example would be: I determine that there are two flavours of chips on the shelf (ketchup and dill pickle) by looking at the various bags and reading their titles and/or looking at the colours of the bags, I decide to buy the ketchup because I feel like eating ketchup flavoured chips. simple and silly example, but it illustrates the crisp difference.

another situation might be where someone is lying on the ground and you can see them bleeding out the mouth and performing cursory first aid you also determine that their leg is broken. normally, the top priority would be taking care of the most life-threatening injury, but if you've exhausted all avenues of information gathering and still can't figure out why they are bleeding out the mouth (and also cannot figure out a way to stop the bleeding), you might have to decide to work on their leg first.

a more fleshed out answer, but it's all really simple []. so the next time you're in a situation where you find yourself in a state of confusion and disarray Stop yourself and calm yourself. and then Think. and after all relevant thinking has been done (allowing for time constraints and priorities) and you have decided upon a course of action, then Act. i find it very handy myself ^_^

~kakkarot

my opinion, is that you might be posting that on the wrong thread, wendi.

~kakkarot

necronomicon = fiction

~kakkarot

you taught people how to attack, and now they are attacking you? is that what you said?

try shielding, and for the long run, try meditation and gaining self discipline.

~kakkarot

nita is lacking in experience? that's funny to me cause from what i've read of your posts you seem to be the one lacking in experience. but that's just my opinion ^_^

as for robert's "conspicuous" absence as of late, last i heard he was very busy writing a new book, so hopefully after he's done that he'll take at least a short break and hang out here in the forums for a bit again [].

~kakkarot

actually, i'd have to say, based upon my observations, that what is drawing people into christianity and causing them to become close minded is people: people who are already christians feeding their own beliefs into the new christians.

tis a shame really. to be completely honest, i've wanted to try and destroy some churches simply because they don't give a s**t about God at all and are merely focused on themselves as a group and the money they can generate with new members and how far they can spread their own beliefs (almost as though it's justifying their own decision to believe what they do because they have no REAL faith) :/

~kakkarot

[by definition]

arguing against certain ideas which are the basis of christianity (ie, that jesus died and ressurected, that he performed miracles, that he lived) by merely saying it's illogical or impossible is really illogical in itself.

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" if that one statement is true, then the rest of the bible is a breeze. and there's no way to really prove that statement wrong, so by a logical fallacy of supposed circular logic, it's illogical to say "this didn't happen because it doesn't make sense" with regards to christianity.

there's a reason why christianity is mostly based upon *belief*, because by definition beliefs are things which are neither proven correct nor incorrect. and since you can prove neither that God did or did not create everything, it remains belief.

~kakkarot

hynosis for dummies [] good book. you can possibly find it at your local library (so you won't have to buy it [])

here's an excerpt http://cda.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/id-971.html

~kakkarot

here's one http://www.crvmanual.com/ it's the only one that i know off the top of my head, but i've seen other post links to other places too.

good luck in your search []

~kakkarot

sounds like either could have been an attack, but also that each could have been a random occurance that had negative effects on you. the time period between them makes it seem less likely that they were attacks, unless each was an isolated one-time attack.

if either were an attack, the question would be "why did the person/being attack you?" and we might never know the answer to that.

i hope it doesn't happen again, though []. be well

~kakkarot

i get that feeling when i'm too drunk ^_^ it lessens if i go into a lotus meditative position and take a deep breath out and don't breath back in for a bit. then i slowly breath back in (shallow breaths) and it doesn't seem to get worse.

i've got no idea why it would happen outside of being drunk or influenced by some sort of drug, but i suggest seeing a doctor []

~kakkarot

yes, orcher, i would say those words to you if i were looking you in the eyes. i've done it to others.

and the reason why? because i really do see them as stupid. and yes, there ARE stupid people in this world. to believe otherwise is to believe that we live in a fantasy world where you believe that certain "bad things" don't exist simply because you can't handle the fact that they do (ever heard of IQ's and the bell curve?)

i'm not being nice to you. i don't care to be nice to you. and i've already explained why. it's not because i don't know how to be nice, it's because i've made a conscious decision to be a jerk (and yes, jerks exist too).

~kakkarot

first off, pray to God. you mentioned the catholic church, but guess who has more power than them or whatever/whoever is attacking you [].

secondly, yes a human being is capable of great evils. as discouraging as it might be to understand about our race, it is true. however, it goes the other way too, humans are capable of great good too [].

pray to God, and go to the church and ask them to pray for you as well. God will give you a door if you trust in Him. heck, He'll give you an entire building if you need it and you trust in Him ^_^

you might be finding yourself on the beginning of a journey soon, and if you do, good luck and may God be with you []. if you don't find yourself on a journey soon, then just ignore me ^_^

~kakkarot

why not BOTH

~kakkarot ^_^

sure i'll fight you, just fly or drive up here to medicine hat and find me ^_^

~kakkarot

ps. this was a joke, hopefully showing the author of the thread just how vague he was.

quote:ego boost anyone?

sure i'll take one [].

and kato, you apparently haven't read anything in the topic, so please do before replying again [].

~kakkarot

actually, the file would be able to be only 64kb likely because it calls to some place on the internet to download more information (or play a video). this might also be the reason why it is shown to be a virus, though it's still a good idea to not download it if your antivirus software calls it a virus.

~kakkarot

thank you soulfire, for explaining a side that too few people seem to understand (but seem quick to attack :/)

whitelight: i was mean to orcher because he made up a thread attacking people and saying they've given him no proof when he hasn't even asked for any. should i give him proof of stuff i've been through, though he's not asked for it? that's one of his logical fallacy which makes him appear very stupid in my eyes.

he whines about them not giving him proof, and my original point was to tell him that he should ask them for something that would constitute proof to him. just because i posted it in a semi-roundabout manner doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to think about it. and the part about him saying i've been mesmorized by people i've not even talked to was just rediculous (and no, he couldn't have known that i've never talked to them before, which makes him even more retarded for just up and assuming i have). i was posting as one who cares about logical discussions and eventhough he didn't know my reason for posting, for him to just up and say i've been beguiled by them is purely imagination.

certain types of people really get under my skin: people who attack others with no logical basis or arguments on their side are one of those types.

~kakkarot

actually, it was from a new moderator (well, actually an old one that just came back after a long leave of absence ^_^) from the veritas academy. psipog's chat is set up so that hardly any discussion can take place because it soon becomes "teaching" which isn't allowed.

the "seminar" that i posted was actually a very impromptu thing ^_^ and i'll warn you, the veritas chat is way more into wacky off-the-wall discussions than it is into relevant discussions, so if you're seeking maturity you'll have to go elsewhere []. of course, since i'm one of the main proponents of immaturity over there maybe you just have to get there when i'm not there ^_^

~kakkarot

well, if it were any different, people would still wonder why it is as it is ^_^ so my answer is, it just is []

~kakkarot

well, let's see. since this "heaven" place only exists in the christian and hebrew religions, you'd have to study those in order to find out.

basically, according to the israelites, you must be a jew and you must follow the law. according to christianity, you must believe in Jesus as the son of God, ask God to forgive you for your sins, and change who you are so that you are living the life that God has set out for you []. the neccessity of baptism is hotly debated.

~kakkarot

actually orcher, i asked you what proof would satisfy you in this specific instance that you are rambling about. instead of this anthony guy going "here's proof" and you going "nope not good enough" and him going "ok, here's some more proof" and you going "nope still not good enough" and him going "ok, here's some more proof" and you going "nope still not good enough" and him going "ok, here's some more proof" and you going "nope still not good enough" ad infinitum until he hits upon something that you'll accept as proof, why don't you specify what kind(s) of thing(s) you'll accept as "proof" so that anthony isn't wasting his time trying to give you proof that you won't ever accept.

you seem to be a very stupid person, orcher. not once did i say anything about believing, let alone blindly believing, anything that mayatnik or anybody has to say about anything and yet you tell me i'm hypnotised by their glamourness? you say you are using english, but i think you need to study it more.

~kakkarot