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#676
Quote from: Yodad on April 13, 2018, 21:48:58
I came across a video of Tom Campbell talking about binaural beats that I thought was informative. Mostly basic info but I liked his attitude about using them but suggesting to work towards not using them. Guess as part of the seminar he did, the people got copies of bb he has created.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1pwe0ylRw

After I watched it, I followed a link from that video to a site that sells Toms bb's that isn't very much in price either. I may get them, but sure do like how the price isn't as steep as TMI.
https://www.mbtevents.com/store.html

Anyone tried Tom's versions?
Always consider all "tools" as "training wheels".
Once you figure out how they work... take them off and fly solo!  :)
#677
Dreams take place between the 43rd and 44th dimensions, next to the astral takeaway and below the out of body resort.  :)
#678
Quote from: Lucidityman on April 12, 2018, 19:03:45
Xanth  woot woot..  Is Novice still around?
I haven't seen or heard from Novice for a few years now.
I think she mostly hangs out over on the EIC forums.
#679
OMG that's horrible. :(

Lots of good, healing energy coming her way!!
We'll help her!
#680
Woooooooooooo!  Welcome back LM.  :)
#681
Quote from: kuurt on April 12, 2018, 02:01:22
So there is just no order to the nonphysical planes at all, except how we order it with our imagination?
That would be my experience.  The only "order" people can seem to come up with only seems to apply to their own experiences.
Anyone following them, only TRIES to fit their own experiences into somebody else's box of labels.  It's incredibly messy at best... 

QuoteWe talk about subjective and objective reality.  I realize that there is less objective reality in these nonphysical planes, but if there is even just a little bit of objective reality to them then there must be some sense of order.  If these nonphysical planes also have laws and rule sets, then it stands to reason that there should be some way to order these planes in a way that is not subjective.
IS there an order of some kind?
There might be... but I feel like it's beyond the understanding of humans to grasp such information.
It's quite possible the answer lies OUTSIDE of consciousness itself... which then means, we have no way to access it.

The methods people have used to TRY to order and map consciousness are countless.  What does that tell you?  That tells me that they're wrong.

QuoteOn page 31 of "Gone West", there is this diagram of the Spirit Plane. It's not a real good diagram, but it's the only diagram I've seen of the nonphysical.  That's what I want to see.  I'm not talking about a map which shows locations in space, but a diagram that shows all the different planes (the astral planes, the spiritual planes, the mental planes, the celestrial planes, or however many there are.)  And the sub-planes of each plane.  I would like to know where is this place they called "summerland", where is the place they call "twilight zone", where is the place where people shed their astral bodies.  Where is the belief system territories.  Where is the celestrial heavens.  Where is the hell planes.  What goes on in all these different planes.  What kind of people do you find in all these different planes.  And ultimately what I would really like to know, is how to discern what plane you're experiencing when you're experiencing the nonphysical.   

If every plane does exist in a different frequency, why wouldn't the higher frequency planes be closer to Source and the lower frequency (dense planes) be farther from Source? 

I believe Tom Campbell says all these planes/frequencies are virtual realities and that the computer computing them has to exist outside the virtual realities.  Where is this computer?  Is it God/Source?   Is God outside these virtual realities?  And is that our ultimate reality - Oneness with God? 

It's not going to let me add an image, so here's the book "gone west". Page 31 has a diagram of the spirit planes. 
https://new-birth.net/media/cms_page_media/220/Gone_West.pdf
Wow, that map is... busy... LOL
It kind of just further illustrates the point that you can't map this stuff.
It's consciousness.  It's like looking at the clouds on a summer day and everyone seeing a different shape in them. 
It's subjective and unique to the experiencer.
#682
Quote from: Nameless on April 11, 2018, 05:13:08
I've no doubt LightBeam I would consider you an angel if I ran into you NP. Now the question is good angel or bad angel, hahaha.
Bad to the bone baby!!   :evil: :-D
#683
Quote from: kuurt on April 11, 2018, 01:21:40
So I take it that every plane is a different frequency, so when Adrien uses the term inner sphere, he's not talking about inner and outer planes in the sense that some are closer to Source/God which is in the center, and some are farther away.  The inner planes are just those that are higher in vibration and therefore closer to Source, and the outer planes are lower in vibration and very dense like the earth plane.
The way I see it, no.

All of this stuff is simply derived by the fact that we humans LOVE to categorize and label things hierarchical.
#684
Quote from: kuurt on April 10, 2018, 06:50:57
Over a hundred views and no comments.  Does nobody know what I'm talking about?  I guess you're not reading the same books as me apparently.  I know at least two of the books I've recently read about these other planes used the term "inner spheres" and "spiritual spheres".  What are they talking about? 

What's the difference between a sphere and a plane?  Or are they the same thing?
Inner Sphere...
Dimensions...
Planes...

Yeah, they're pretty much just different terms for what is essentially the same thing.

Learn to recognize these kinds of patterns.
#685
Quote from: Nameless on April 09, 2018, 18:56:31
Xanth did a good job describing visualization above so I want repeat that. If you do visualize to the point of seeing I agree with Xanth, you are approaching remote viewing which very much works like seeing but takes place in your mind (sort of).
Oh, and I also wanted to point out that it illustrates one of my other points so well... in that, the line between all of these "abilities" we're on this forum learning is extremely blurred.

Visualization... remote viewing... dreaming... lucid dreaming... astral projection...

There's a singular thread which runs throughout all of those experiences.
#686
Quote from: Nameless on April 09, 2018, 19:19:39
Just read a post by one of our newest members, Windwalker. asking about guides. It made me think what if perhaps we, some or all of us, have been retrieved.

I find myself giving advice, help, hope, guidance in many of my experiences. To those I am helping that might make me a guide or retriever. Just looking to see what any of your thoughts might be on this.
You could totally take that perspective.
In any such interactions, there is a "helper" and a "helpee"... we're all retrievers at some point in our lives.
It doesn't have to be limited to the non-physical.  :)

This is entirely what I mean by opening your mind to the possibilities.  Thinking outside the "human" box...
#687
Guides aren't what most people think they are.
They're not individual beings there to help you whenever you think you need it...

A guide is, literally, ANYTHING within consciousness which helps you.  "Helping you" can be in just about any form imaginable.

If someone has a singular "entity" which they recognize as being a guide to them... it's only because that's just their subconsciously chosen method for how they accept that assistance.
#688
Here is probably the best "article" on visualization:  http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/content.php?205-Part-2-NO-Visualization

It's Robert Bruce... he and I don't agree on much, but this is solid information.

In a nutshell...
Visualization is more like remembering a memory in as much detail as you can.  Remember a birthday party you had from when you were growing up.  Remember all the details about it... the cake, the presents, your friends, your parents, the smells... everything.  Realize that you don't actually SEE it.

Now, if you actually do start SEEING (like really seeing it), then you've moved on and away from "visualization" and moved more into the realm of remote viewing.
#689
It's a skill  ;)
#690
I've never understood all this "dimension" talk...
#691
Quote from: rem92 on April 02, 2018, 05:32:21
So in this sense, we don't really go anywhere yeah? So then how does the actual travel happen? for example, If I'm looking at the mountain (F1) I can physically move, to the mountain, and explore the mountain, and maybe there is a cave, maybe I run into a bear. Ok so, If I change my perspective, my focus to the lake (F3) How do I explore the lake? How do I go in it, or go across it, to see whats at the other end, if I'm not able to go anywhere per say, or.... wait.. something suddenly hit me..  

So is it in a sense, like virtual reality? Like, in the physical, we use for example, a virtual reality game, like using the Oculus, or whatever, you are not physically moving... but you can see, through the machine on your head, many environments, and characters, and interact with them and go places. This is something that you perceive you are doing in through the VR machine, but your actual body is on the same spot, your focus is so into this world you are seeing through the vr machine, that people's physical body loose sense of which is which, and depending on the situation, they physically fall to the ground.
Then as soon as you take it off, your focus is back to 'reality.'

Does that sound like what astral "movement/exploration"  is like?
In a nutshell, yes.
"Movement" is as much an illusion as this reality is. 
#692
Hemi-sync is the "brand name" of technology called "binaural beats".
They're like the Nike shoes of brainwave entrainment music.  You can buy other kinds of cheaper shoes and they'll get the job done just the same... or you can buy Nike's and waste your money.  ;)
#693
Quote from: mindscreen on March 30, 2018, 05:55:57
Thank you for that great reply!  I am here to learn, open to ideas & concepts especially ones that can expand knowledge and remove wrong interpretations / understandings.  I request you to elaborate on, "ego-goals"
"Ego-goals" are any goals or actions you take to satiate your own ego... essentially, actions which are based on Fear, not Love.

Quoteand when you said, "There's simply too much work for people to do spiritually for themselves in this physical reality first. "
Quite frankly, a good chunk of humanity need to focus more on themselves and the world around them in a more Loving way.  Astral Projection won't help the vast majority of people who want to learn it.  In fact, the number one reason I see people wanting to learn to project is to use it as an "escape" from this reality.  That's a great example of using projection as an ego-goal.

QuoteAlso, please expand this: "What I found through Astral Projection is why we're here experiencing this physical reality...".
We're here to learn to be kind to one another.  To Love.
Treat those you encounter with kindness, regardless of who they are or what they've done to you. 
Accept everything and everyone for who they are and act from the heart.
#694
Well, essentially, you're not really going anywhere... it's not a movement outward OR inward.
It's just a change in perspective.  It's like looking at a mountain in front of you, then just by changing your perspective, you turn around to look at a lake.
You haven't moved anywhere, you'd just changed the perspective from where you were looking.  Essentially, taking in a new view.

That's all astral projection is.  Changing your perspective.
#696
Quote from: Rconrad on March 30, 2018, 08:08:22
Ive emailed admins without reply. How can i change my forum name? Thank you.
You haven't emailed me.  :)
I'm the only one who can do that.

Send me a PM.
#697
Quote from: astralm on December 15, 2017, 17:40:09
Tom Campbell has also stated that while he was reading everything on this subject and discussing with Robert Monroe back in the 70's the Seth material was the most accurate they found.  Though he has also stated that channel work is a tricky thing and everything is still filtered through Jane's experience and so to take everything at its word could cause issues.  He mostly brings up this point in response to Seth saying time is an illusion and the past, present, and future exist at the same time... which is not a view Tom holds.
I just wanted to quickly point out, it's not that "the past, present, and future exist at the same time", nor is that exactly Tom's point of view.
It's that the only thing which exists is "NOW"... nothing outside of this NOW point of existence actually exists.
What Tom refers to when he talks about "time" is that he refers to it in relation to the "database" concept.

The past / present database and the future database.  Everything which COULD/MIGHT happen is contained within the database as "unactualized" data (meaning it never actually happened) and the stuff that ACTUALLY happens is referred to as the "actualized" database... or the actual path through the database which actually happened.  This is why you can access these databases and run scenarios of how things might have played out had other events/choices been made.  Keeping in mind that at that point, you're now also referencing that "future database" and the further you go in the future, the less accurate it becomes.

Does that make sense?  So, the only thing which truly exists is NOW... and everything that happened before is actualized with choices not made being unactualized.
#698
Quote from: mindscreen on March 29, 2018, 00:49:31
OTH, if one views AP is a minor but relevant part of higher purpose(s), then there are other things to be considered as well.
I kinda wanted to touch on this one part of your post...

Quite honestly, in my experience, Astral Projection isn't relevant to any higher purpose.
At least not in any way which the average person practices it.

In a sense, before you existed here in this physical reality, you came FROM (for lack of a better term) the astral.
People try so hard to get back there for a few fleeting seconds/minutes, yet completely ignore the very reason why you're experiencing this physical reality in the first place.

The reason you're HERE isn't to get back to THERE.  That's my hope for why I teach this stuff in the first place, so that people can move past it.  You'll get back THERE eventually, all in due course.  You can't stop it.
Does Astral Projection have it's place here then?  For a person who isn't interested in ego-goals, then yes, it certainly does, but very few people in this place (I'm including myself here) are there yet. 
There's simply too much work for people to do spiritually for themselves in this physical reality first.

What I found through Astral Projection is why we're here experiencing this physical reality and getting PAST the need to Astral Project is a big step in that understanding.  The "want" is still there, mostly because I have yet to work through my own ego-issues, but the need for it has long evaporated.
#699
Quote from: Rye on March 28, 2018, 21:20:36
Practice first, theory later.
I train in Yoshinkan Aikido, and ironically, that's how we train. 

Practice, practice, practice... then understanding of how it works.
#700
No worries.

I actually wouldn't have it any other way.  :)

In the meantime, your only goal should be to have personal experiences, that way you can go from just "believing" to "knowing".