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Hi James

    It's an interest of mine, plus I know a couple of people I'm trying to help.

    I'm the first to agree with you concerning the witch hunts.  Most of the time people go around blaming things on the devil, and the devil is know where to be found.

Probably out of the 100% of people out there who go around saying something is the devil or a spirit entity, probably only about 15% of them are right.  The other 85% it's probably either in their imagination, or they are just finatically acting like a lot of other people around them, like in some of these extreme pentecostal movements, where they sometimes think everything is the devil.  

Even though I have an interest in learning how to counter "negs" and helping people who are possessed in some way, I realize that 85% of the time when people say something is the devil or an entity of some type, the devil or whatever is actually no where around.  It's really just themselves misperceiving something or their imagination.
However different things have differnt realites, there is a misperceiving reality, a imagination reality, and an actual "neg" reality.  One must become perceptive at being able to recognize the correct reality that is present at that time.

However, the "neg" problem is real, even though it should always be kept in proper proportions.  And there are a lot of people out in the world who are being attacked and having their life messed with by negs.  I feel that "neg" technology is an area that the world is presently behind in.  And the technology I speak of is the understanding on how to detect and counter "negs", and have a number of sure way techniques available for forcing them out of people that they are harming, tormenting, and causing problems with.  That way those people can get out of the nightmare they have gone through and get their life back.

Well said Travelinbob

   It would have even been better said if you could have done it without your last line.  But even with the last line you put in, you still said it pretty good.  You realized it was a mistake to try put down people who have ever encounterd a possession or to try to label people as being this or that because they have ever encountered a possession.  

Since you are someone who is capable of seeing his mistake and learning from it, it's brought us back to respectful discussions.  I would react the way I did toward anyone I encountered if I saw that they were in a way taking advantage of a possessed person's situation, as a way to try to put that person down and build themselves up wrongly in the process.  

You've seen from our dialogue that such a statement you made is not really true, and that even the strongest and the strong can find themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time, and encounter an unfortunate situation.

I'm actually impressed by your answer.  I can tell by your answer that over all you are a sensative person, who is open minded and is looking to always constantly improve himself.  You are probably also someone who would help a friend, and who would try to take up for people who could not be present for whatever reason to defend themselves.  

You impressed me with your reply.  Good luck on your journey and your searches in life.

Hi Person

    The first thing to keep in mind is that the world of human beings as a collective of entites that were created by God are still learning and have many things to learn.  The world of human beings (most human beings that is, and especially most scientific and medical establishments) right now are like a baby that has just been born when it comes to understanding the realities of the spiritual realm and such things as Angels and "negs", and how to counter "negs".  

   To give you an example, I researched the history of medicine.  Do you know that not so many years ago that the so-called experts (medical that is) killed the founding president of the United States, George Washington.  One day George Washington was out riding his horse and caught a cold.  During his lifetime medicine and the experts still held to some wild and crazy beliefs.  They believed that by letting the blood out of a person (called bloodletting) that you could cure humans of many illnesses or diseases.  They bled George Washington to death over a common cold.
The first person that told the experts in london that creatures existed that couldn't been seen with the human eyes was ridiculed and laughed at by the experts.  However, they soon quit laughing when the scientist showed them magnifying glasses of a certain type which showed these creatures that humans had never seen or known existed before that time.

So the lesson from all this is take any experts with a grain of salt.  The world still has a lot to learn, especially in the area of the spiritual realm, and lifeforms in the spiritual realm.

Christians are not exempt from this area either.  Christians still have a lot to learn about the realities of the spiritual realm, and about a lot of the different things that make up a human being entity.  

There is only one for sure proof that the Christian faith can offer someone to prove to them that Jesus Christ and Christianity are the one true revelation from God.  That one proof is the gift of the "Holy Spirit".

If you want to know if Christianity is true or not.  Ask a lot of people what or who the "Holy Spirit" is.  This is my understanding of the Holy Spirit to give you something to start with.  The Holy Spirit is one of the three memebers of the Trinity, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.  When God the Son, Jesus Christ, left this Earth He told those who believed in him that once He left the Earth that He would send them the gift of the "Holy Spirit", and that it was not only to his friends the apostles, but to all those who would believe in him from generation to generation could receive the gift of the "Holy Spirit".  

So what or who is the Holy Spirit?  And what did Jesus mean when he said that those who would believe could receive the gift of the "Holy Spirit"?  First to answer this we must realize that God is Spirit, in a similar way that we are spirit.  God also has a personality in a similar way that we have a personality.  God also has a full range of feelings and emotions in the same way that we have a full range of feelings and emotions.  We actually got our range of feelings and emotions from God and his makeup.  We need to also realize that God is capable of duplicating himself, and allowing his actual "Spirit being" to come and live inside with a human being's "spirit being".  

God has chosen to implement this duplication process with the member of the Trinity known as God the Holy Spirit.  There is no other religion or belief system in the world to day where this happens and actually takes place except in Christianity, which gives a unbelievably strong validity that Christiantiy is the true revelation of God in this world.  The Holy Spirit being comes and lives inside the spirit of the human beings spirit and dwells with the human being and makes his home with the human being.  The Holy spirit has God's personality as he is God, so God's personality is also living in that human's spirit with the human.  The Holy Spirit can also communicate with the human being that he is within and can lead and guide him, and even warn him when danger is close.  The Bible even says and verifies that the Holy Spirit will do these things in the spirit of a human being.

The human being will also know that another entity is living inside of him.  It's impossible to not feel the Creator of the Universe when he enters into your spirit, and makes his home and communes with you.  In reality probably about only 65% of all Christians who claim to be Christians actually have the Holy Spirit in them.  The reason for this is that the Holy Spirit respects a persons free will, and will not ever enter into a man or woman unless they truly change their ways, and truly ask God into their lives.  Many claim to be Christians but have not truly changed their ways, and so have not received the Holy Spirit yet.  God knows those that are really sincere, and will not enter into a person until they are sincere and really want him.

Many Christians that you encounter today can truthfully tell you that there is another Being living inside them, who actually talks to them, comforts them, and leads them and helps guide them through life.  Those Christians are either crazy and story tellers, or they have really found the truth and the true God.  

Is the being that is in such a large number of these Christians the actual Creator of the Universe?  Does the Creator of the Universe actually want to have that kind of intimate and personal relationship with each human being if possible?

I don't care what anyone says.  Anyone who doesn't have the Holy Spirit in them does not yet know God in the way that God wants them to know him, and in the way that God desires to know us.  Anyone that has not yet discovered the truth of the Bible's Being called the "Holy Spirit", may claim to know God in some way or in some certain way, but in the way they claim to know him, they have still fallen short of the way God desires for them to know him, and the way that God desires to know us.

Because this world is such a confusing world God knows that not every human being will come to know him the way God desires they would know him through personal spirit to spirit communion (Indwelling of Holy Spirit). But God honors the faithfulness of all men to their religions.  So when men or women die in a particular religion or belief system, that has no possibility or avenue to God's being coming and indwelling with their being, God respects the fact that those men and women were faithful to their particular religion and reveals Himself to them when they pass away and enter the spiritual realm giving these different people an opportunity to accept him at that time, and enter into communion with his spirit at that time.  


   Hope this information was helpful from the Christian Perspective

In Response

    Some answers that might help were given on a site posted by "Spirit Gurl" under the "Philosophy" forum.  Look at her last pages of replies, Page 7.  Look at my reply there.  It's lengthy, but I think you will find it helpful.  I think you will find some interesting understandings about God.

In Response

    I looked up the word "ayahuasca" on the internet.  You did spell it right.  I tried to find something on the internet that dealt with the ingredients you had mentioned, but have not been able to find a list of the complete ingredients yet.  Most of the web pages also talk about the halluciatory affects of the plant.  I couldn't find any pages that talked about how it can be used to detach an entity off of a person, but I bet there are some web pages on it.  If you find anymore information concerning the plant or web pages that talk how it can be used against "negs", be sure to let us know about it.  Have a good day.

Hey Travelinbob

    I can tell a strong, overconfident person like you who knows it all has never been possessed, and could never get possessed in any reincarnated lifetime under any situations, and has it all figured out.  I'm sure negs see you and scream and run all different kinds of directions.  I'm sure just your ego alone could probably send them to another galaxy.  
    You say that anybody who gets possessed is weak and imbalanced.  Are you aware that Robert Bruce has been possessed before by a "neg".  Are you trying to call Robert Bruce something. Is it possible that your know it all attitude is as close minded or absent minded as the head of a pin.

    In this somewhat dangerous and crazy world, you could be driving down the road in your car at the wrong time and in the wrong place and get into a major car accident and lose both your legs or get brain damage or something else.  It would be an unfortuante situation but unfortunate things can sometimes happen to people in this world and it doesn't make a difference on how strong or weak they are when that unfortunate situation comes along.  I don't care whether a person was a body builder, and a emotional and mental fitness trainer.  They can be traumatized, damaged, and even killed just like everybody else if they find themselves at the wrong place at the wrong time in a major car accident.  We are in vulnerable human bodies, and people who go around with their ego up their butt thinking they are so powerful and strong, and everyone else is weak has a suprise coming to them someday.  Regarding possession and negs, the same situation as major car accidents also happens in that regard.  You may have been fortunate to have grown up in a somewhat functional family, lived in a pleasant environment all your life where egos grow and flourish in someone's butt readily. But not everyone in this world may have been fortuante to have been raised up in a functional family, or to have been able to avoid a lot of dangerous or harmful situations or environments.  So far you in your life may have been able to avoid any major car accidents, but if you keep up with the present attitude that you have about how strong you are and that everybody else is weak, believe me you are headed that way.
    I guarantee you this Robert Bruce is probably a hundred times stronger than you both spiritually and mentally even though he has been possessed before.  Even the strong and the strongest can get possessed if they are in the wrong place at the wrong time around the wrong type people and entities.

You need to re-think your ego-assed beliefs.  Because the weak people are the people who are close minded, think they know it all, and they like to speak about things they have never experienced and know nothing about.  They are so confident and strong about everything, and think that "negs" and other entities will flee from them just by sight.

You also need to realize that usually it is the strong that the "negs" try to attack and mess with.  Remember the Apostles, the "negs" or fallen angels were after them at every turn.  The reason for that is that "negs" tend to attack those people who could possibly be a threat to the negs "corrupt organizations" in the spiritual realm.  They usually don't mess with those that are partying all the time.  

    Also this site was about techniques to use against "negs", not about trying with stupid butt beliefs and stupid butt comments to try to put down people who have ever been possessed for whatever reason.
    If you do not have anything useful to add to this site, as you yourself have said "Techniques I don't know", I would prefer you refrain from leaving replies, or from trying to put down other people with your stupid butt comments, concerning things that it is evident that you know nothing about.

          Travelinbob Good luck on pulling your ego out of your butt

                                                  Bye

Hi everyone

  In answer to your question "31", you already answered it yourself and didn't realize it.  If an entity is not doing any harm then it cannot be classified as a "neg" no matter what type of entity it is.

A "Neg" is an entity that is doing harm to others or is causing harm to others, usually for no justifiable or good reason at all.

  So it is wrong to try to destoy a being or entiy that isn't doing anyone wrong, and such an entity could in no way be called a "neg".

  However, it is not wrong to try to stop, and maybe even sometimes have to destory an entity who is seeking to harm, torment, kill, or destroy other entities for no good reason at all.  It's self-defense if someone kills another because the other first attacked him and was trying to kill him.  Entities that go around attacking other people for no good reason at all, may either find themselves getting imprisoned or destroyed.  Usually the sorry low lifes just end up getting forced out of the person they were harming and tormenting, and are able to go out and attack and harm others.  Who is the victim in this situation the person that get's assaulted, raped, or even murdered, or the person that is doing the assaulting, raping, or murdering.  I do not have any sympathy for "negs", as "negs" being defined as entities that are out attacking and harming others for no good reasons at all.  The only way I could have sympathy for a "neg" is if the "neg" was out of it's mind, and was in no way responsible for it's actions.  In that situation such an entity should not even be called a "neg", but an enity with problems that it can't help, but such an entity should be confined and stopped from it's actions as soon as possible.  In all other situations my sympathy only goes out to the victims of "negs".  We need to find as many techniques as possible to deal with "negs", and to counter them.

Hi everyone


   Whether water will work or not depends on two factors.  How strong the "neg" is or isn't.  And how long the neg has been attached to the person.  It's possible if the neg isn't very strong, that it could still be removed by water even if it has been attached for over 5 years.  

    A person also needs to make a distinction between water that is put directly on a person, and the force or vibrations of powerful water energy such as that from a powerful underground stream.  Simple water techniques may not work against a strong "neg" no matter how many baths or showers you take, and no matter how many times you may cross over some kind of water barrier.

    However, a powerful underground stream that someone is standing above has been known to remove very strong "negs", even Robert Bruce has mentioned that fact about underground streams.

                                 Good luck with everything

Hi everyone

    I happen to agree with Robert Bruce.  There may be some of these spirits a supposed healer can walk in the light, and it may work sometimes.  But I guarantee you this, it will not work all the time.  There are various lifeforms in the spiritual realm, and until we know for sure all the different types of lifeforms in the spiritual realm, and which ones have gone to evil, all you are going to hear from a lot of not very open minded people is a lot of postulated theories, and some of them will not even begin to let you know of the other options, or the times that they tried to help somebody but were unsuccessful in walking it into the light.  The reason they will not admit to their unsuccessful attempts is because then it would throw their theories all out of wack.  Instead of them learning from their own experiences and realizing there are different types of life forms in the spiritual realm, and changing their theories to fit reality, they choose instead to hold to their own unrealistic views and continute to either put guilt trips on people they are unsuccessful in helping, or watching those people suffer some other way.  But in no wise do those people wise up and changer their beliefs or theories.  

    What are some of the lifeforms in the spiritual realm that we know about.  There are human entities that have passed away from the physical realm.  There are Holy Angels and fallen Angels that we have read about in the Bible.  There are unclean spirits, demonic spirits, and malicious spirits that we have read about in the Bible.  There are probably also countless other types of lifeforms in the spiritual realm.  The bottom line is this, a person may be able to walk a deceased human spirit into the light.  But you are not going to be able to walk a demonic spirit or fallen angel into the light.
 
    There is another way of thinking that some of these so-called healers have that I don't agree with.  They are as concerned about the evil entity as they are about the human person the entity is tormenting and trying to destroy.  They say things like you must always use their method, otherwise the evil entity that is on the person when it leaves will find somebody else to attack or possess.  That may be the case but these so called healers have no right to use tormented humans as their hosts for helping evil entities in the spiritual realm, which some of them they can't help anyway because they are not deceased humans and they are not from that light, and their home is not in that light.  That light is only the home for deceased humans that have passed away and are moving into the new home and world that God has created in the spiritual realm for his human entity offspring.  If these so-called healers want to go around helping these evil entities then why don't they astral project into the spiritual realm and allow themselves to get possessed by these entities, and then have one of their friends help them walk it into the light why they are getting tormented and their mind messed with.  They have no right to use suffering humans as hosts to help harmful entities, most of which are demonic and are not in any way part of the humans light anyway.  Secondly if there is a method that can set a person free in one minute or less, and then there is the postulated light method that works sometimes and other times doesn't work at all, but the healers don't tell anybody those times, plus their light methods takes from a couple of weeks to possibly never working to set a person free, and also they need a human host that's good at being able to take a lot of suffering and torment for the weeks to months it might take.  First off the light method can only work with deceased human spirits, and none other.  But these so-called healers would rather see the suffering tormented human on the street for two months, rather than use the one minute technique to set them free.  These so-called healers need to start using the quickest method, and then astral project and find the deceased human spirit after it has left it's victim, and try to walk it into the light from the spiritual realm.  They need to quit using suffering tormenting humans as experimental host victims.

  My belief is the same as Robert Bruce's belief.  If there is a human being and they are being harmed and tormented by some kind of harmful entity, no matter what kind it is.  Our goal is to get that harmful entity off of that person as quickly as we can, no matter what kind of technique or method we have to use.  If we have the technology to capture the harmful entity when it comes off then great, if we don't have that technology then there is nothing we can do about it.  But it is wrong and inhumane to use that suffering, tormented human as a host, even if it means that it's possible that the harmful spirit may go out and seek to attack another human somewhere.  If these so-called healers who watch others suffer at their expense were not hypocritical, they would either in the astral realm or physical realm open themselves up to possession all the time, and make themselves a tormented experimental host, and then have one of their friends try with their postulated theories to walk all the different entities and lifeforms they may encounter into the light. Or immediately when they encounter someone who is possessed immediately offer themselves to the entity to allow the entity to possess them, and then they can try their postulated theories on it.

    The bottom line.  If someone is suffering and is tormented by a possession by a harmful entity, we should get the entity off of them as soon as we can by any method or techniques we have available to us at the time.  If certain psychics who hold to certain postulated theories wants to astral project and go chasing off after the entity in the spiritual realm once it comes off, that is his or her business.  But we are not going to make experimental hosts out of tormented and suffering human beings.  We help them as soon as we can with any method or technique we have available to us.

Hi Person

    Do you know the names and numbers of any Reiki masters who can successfully perform the technique you have mentioned.  Also can you briefly mention what is actually done in such a technique or what actually takes place with such a technique.

Hey Travelinbob

    You are probably right about the garlic.  I do believe that garlic can probably remove some negs, but only slightly weaken other strong negs.  However, I believe garlic affects all negs to a certain degree no matter how strong the negs are or aren't.
    I do not agree with you on your second comment though.  If you remember in the Bible which has very accurate descriptions of some possessions.  Those people in some of those situations could have tried to deny the existence of the negs that were possessing them, but it would have been to no avail.  If it hadn't been for Jesus ability to deal with certain strong "negs" many of those people would have probably never gotten free, as many of the techniques being learned by people today to remove them were not known back then.  They could have tried to deny the existence of the neg that was possessing them, but that would have probably made their situation worse, as all the torment in their mind would have still been there, all the negs attempts to cast them into the fire or water to drown them would have still been there.  The negs ability sometime in certain situations to take over their body would have still been there.  Their best chance was to acknowledge their problem, and acknowledge the reality that they were fighting a neg, and then to seek every possible way to try to find a way to get it off of them, using whatever techniques were available to them at that time, and to even try to find new techniques if the situation called for it.  Only in situations where the neg is not actually attached to a person, could a person then possibly benefit by denying that there are any negs in his immediate surrounding that are trying to attack him externally. Even if there were negs external to him in the spiritual realm, by just keeping one's balance and not acknowledging them even though they are actually there, might have some benefit.  But if the neg is already attached to them, they better realize it, and find a way out of the situation.  They would not be very smart to ignore it, and possibly then have to be in that situation for the rest of their life, because they never take the effort to find a way to get free.

In response

    A lot of those things would probably work because the neg is not actually attached to that human body as the spirit that originally belongs to that body is.  If you have read some information on astral projection, you have heard of the silver cord that attaches the humans spirit to his physical body.  A neg is attached to that person's physical body or spirit only by some other kind of technique that is probably a thousand times less strong than a person's silver cord attachment is.  Therefore, their must be techniques and approaches that can be used that can easily force the neg out, but that leave the human's spirit intact, untouched, and unharmed.  The human's spirit belongs there.  The neg does not, and in most all situations is unwelcome, and the person would like to know of a way to get it off of them.

Hi everyone

    If there is a God, which I believe there is.  The belief with God would go this way.  God is a Trinity, a family within himself.  Because of the over flowing of love within the Godhead, it would have been a suppression on the Trinity's love to not have created other offspring to share life and it's love with.  We know for a fact that if God is real that He chose to create this Cosmos with our universe and our world in it.  It only seems logical that God needs to do something to occupy his time, and to express the love within the Trinity.  I believe God is creating other Cosmos, possibly to numerous to count that are in no way connected to this Cosmos, and are unreachable by any efforts on our parts or any other created offspring in our Cosmos.  I believe the only way any created entity from our cosmos could enter into those other worlds of the other created Cosmos's is if God allowed it, and supernaturally transported that particular created entity to one of those other Cosmos.  But concerning all the worlds that are in our particular cosmos, I believe one day the human entities along with other created entites within our cosmos will find ways to travel to distant planets within our cosmos.  There is plenty enough within our cosmos to keep us occupied even if other Cosmos that are not connected to ours are unreachable.  Adrian in his post above is correct to a certain extent, even though I do not know whether Adrian believes in evolution or in creation by God.  Both positions can support numerous Cosmos and physical universes with their accompanying spiritual and astral planes and life forms.  However, only one position is actually correct.  Either evolution is correct, and their is no intelligent designer, or God is correct and their is an intelligent, loving designer who is in some ways similar to us.  I, myself, believe the God view is correct.

To the guy who made the smart comments about mushrooms and Amsterdam

    Just for your own knowledge, many indigenous and civilized people have taken mushrooms, and seen many extraordinary things.  They call them "magic" mushrooms.  There are a number of places in the world where certain people take "mushrooms" for hallucinoginic affects.  So the things you are making up in your wildest dreams are not wild enough.  You're making up things that already do exist and probably have happened.  You need to get more imaginative.  There has probably been many of these people who took these "magic" mushrooms who have seen "negs", "fallen angels", demons, spirits, and no telling what else.
    Also if you are a Christian like you claim, then you need to start listening to God.  God is not the one telling you to go around and making insincere and smart butt comments on the forums.  That stuff is coming from your own elated ego.  I would appreciate if you do not have any useful comments to make to not make them at all.  I've already mentioned in my original post that a Holy Spirit filled Christian who uses prayer can help a person get free from a neg, in most all situations, if a Holy Spirit filled Christian is around.  If you want to comment on that further by telling of stories where you've seen or heard of Holy Spirit filled Christians setting people free then that is fine. But otherwise if you don't have anything to say other than in a smart butt way, then I'd prefer that you not say it.  
Holy Spirit filled Christians are not always going to be around when a person needs help, and if that is the case, then it's a good idea for mankind to come up with other methods that can help a person who is hurting to get free.
    If you continue to want to let your elated, smart butt ego make replies then I'm sure there are a couple people on this forum that would be willing to send you a ticket to get you to Amsterdam, and supply you with both a sitter and some guards.
   The post I originally made was for people to reply with different techniques and methods for helping people who are hurting, and to reply in a respectful way in sincerity.  Don't knock other methods for helping a person get free, just because you want a person to wait for 15 years until they encounter a Holy Spirit filled Christian who has the amount of faith to succeed at that kind of a removal.  Just like God uses doctors to heal sometimes with all their different methods and techniques.  Believe me God is not opposed to humans using other methods and techniques to set someone free who is suffering, just because there is not a Holy Spirit filled Christian around in that situation.

Hey Thing

    If you have something against people in religions, then you have something against over three quarters of the world's population.  Also by knocking other people's religions you are attempting to invalidate about three quarter's of the world's population.  Whether a person is religious or not, they should not go around knocking other people's beliefs just because they are different than their own.  I can understand saying things maybe against cults or people who hold beliefs or philosophies that seek to harm other people.  But the 5 main religions of the world Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Christianity are respectable religions of the world, even though only one of those religions may have actually received their revelation from the one true God, if one believes in a one True God.  And I happen to believe there is a one true God, who is the designer of this Cosmos, and other Cosmos besides this one.  I also believe He is the designer and creator of our Earth world, and has imaginatively created man and woman, his offspring.  We each have to search for what we believe to be the truth, and we need to do it as respectfully as possible for two reasons.  One there may be a God who is actually watching, which I believe there is, and two we don't want other people attacking our beliefs for no reason at all, especially when we have done nothing to attack their beliefs.  Their is plenty of room for discussion and exploring between people of different beliefs, but it should be done respectfully, especially if none of those religions or beliefs are doing anything to try to harm others.

Hey Julia

   There is one problem with your "lifestyle change" method.  The problem is it doesn't help anyone who has a neg attached to them already.  If you read the Bible you will see that was the case.  Only after the neg got removed could the people really make anykind of a "lifestlye change".  At the point of them getting free, they were able to make a "lifestyle change" of not having to fight that neg anymore, and being able to have their complete life back again.  But "lifestyle change" was not the techniques that set any of those people free.  The techniques used to presently try to set people free in this world were of a variety of the types I mentioned in the post.  Once they are free they can then be more careful to avoid certain dangers in this world, and they can also then be free to make certain types of "lifestyle changes" at that point in time.
    This is a dangerous world sometimes, and you just might happen to be in a car at the wrong time, and at the wrong place and find yourself in a major car accident, either losing both or your legs or having brain damage.  It is not a person's lifestyle per say that is the reason sometimes behind an unfortunate situation that happened to them.  Would you tell Robert Bruce that the reason he got possessed that one time was because he didn't lead a good "lifestyle" in life. We do not need to be going around trying to blame people for this or that, we do not know the situations sometimes for a person's particular situation.  If anything what we need to do is try to find answers to help people, and to put a stop to negs.

Hey Pod3

    Those who follow the good book are usually the ones that attract them.  If you remember the 12 apostles.  The negs were after them all the time.  It's usually the ones that are out partying all the time that the fallen angels and negs don't mess with.  The negs usually mess with those who are a threat to finding ways to counter or destroy their corrupt organization in the spiritual realm.  
    If you noticed I already mentioned prayer as number 1 on my post. You did not add anything that wasn't already mentioned.  I'm looking for people to post replies to information they have that hasn't already been mentioned in the post.  I'm also looking for open minded people who don't already think they know everything, and who have ideas and other information to share.  Have a good day.

To Keeth

   The Church is moving out of the dark ages and into the future in this world.  Right now the Church has been slow to catch up because of legalism in the Church, and because of friends like the friend you mentioned.  The Church since the Apostles has progressed from new ideas from new Christian leaders from Zwingli to Calvin to Martin Luther.  It's made some advancements in some areas from where it was when it first started with the Apostles.  The Church has had to tackle such tough questions such as the how does God exist in time, does God have to create us where he always knows the future, the members of the Godhead and how those members are related to each other.  The Church has also tried to analyze with their limited knowledge such things as the spiritual realm and beings such as Angels.
    The Church is about to make a lot of major changes, it must keep pace with the future and new technology that's coming into existence that is showing us more about reality.  The Church already knows well about "negs", but it has not yet experimented with finding a lot of different approaches and techniques for helping people who may be dealing with them.  It's true that prayer by a Holy Spirit filled Christian can help in most situations.  But there may not always be a Holy Spirit filled Christian around when a person who has encountered a neg needs help.  And sometimes in certain rare situations it's possible that prayer may not work directly, but other techniques could maybe easily force the neg out.  The Church is going to begin to learn more and more about negs, and how to counter them and defeat them.  
    I do not believe there is anything wrong with Astral Projection.  I believe eventually that in the future there will be a large number of Holy Spirit filled Christians astral projecting and exploring and researching the spiritual realm so as to find ways to better help men and women dealing with problems on this earth.  I believe it's possible also that the Holy Spirit will possibly even be guiding some of these Christians while they are in the spiritual realm obtaining information.  I can guarantee you this much what your friend said did not come from God.  God did not tell her to say that to you.  It sounds like your friend has a problem with legalism, and is close minded and goes around seeking to influence people to do what she wants them to do, and to try to get them to believe the way she believes by trying to intimidate them with false and made up information.  I wouldn't be surprised also if she goes around saying bad things about certain other Christians whether they be Protestant or Catholic.  It's wrong to put down other Christians preferences of worship, just because their preference may be different from yours.  Protestants should not say bad things about Catholics, and Catholics should not say bad things about Protestants.  It's all about different denominations preference of worship.  It's a sign of immaturity by your friend that she is close minded and seeks to impose her beliefs upon others by intimidations and made up fantasies. Your best thing is to not allow her to get into conversations with you about it anymore, as she sounds like a close minded person, or to find you some new friends all together.

                                      Have a good day

I couldn't find the "edit" icon, so I hope you can make out the small print above.  It only gave me two choices, one was the profile, and the other was a quote.  
    Another interesting question.  If a person learned how to harness chi very well while they were in their human physical body, such as like a lot of martial artists have done through out the world.  Could a person in the spiritual realm also increase their strength by us the same methods in the spiritual realm.  As everyone is aware these martial artists and others who have learned to absorb chi can perform unbelievable feats of strength, and easily throw back an attacker or opponent.  Just a question to think about.

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Tyler has some interesting questions

    Concerning the silver cord.  I don't know if it is silver or not, but it is there.  While you are astral projecting and are in your spiritual body, reach behind your head on your spiritual body, and you will fill a protrusion and somewhat thick cord coming out of the back of the head of your spiritual body.
   It only makes sense, if there is nothing whatsoever connecting you to your physical body, then you should be in the spiritual realm permanently.  Only when the attachment between the physical body and spiritual body is broken, does the spirit leave the physical body and enter into the spiritual realm for it's next transition.
   The question I have is this.  Can any entities besides God and the Holy Angels sever your silver cord why you are astral projecting.  If they can what devices in the spiritual realm would they use to do this, or what technique would they use to do this.  If anyone has ever died while astral projecting by having the cord severed, it's for sure they were not able to come back to tell us about it or warn us about certain entities.
    I do not believe that God or the Holy Angels would sever the cord of a human being that is astral projecting in the spiritual realm, unless that human being was doing something way to far, and even then God may still not intervene and sever it because of free will in creation. I also feel God would send a Holy Angel to warn the person to stop something incorrect he might be doing, before God would take the action of severing a human's cord during projection.  But if God will not ever sever a cord of a human who is astral projecting.  Are there any other entities that lack the power of God, that have ever succeeded in severing the cord of a human being that was astral projecting.  There are of course fallen angels, malicious entities, and demonic entities that roam somewhere in the spiritual planes.  It's probably more likely that these entities do not have the power, devices, or ability to sever a humans cord who is astrally projecting.  However, they can probably attack a human who is astrally projecting and cause the human some kind of spiritual pain or damage, until the human can shake his consciousness back into his physical body.  Has anyone who has ever astral projected ever been attacked by an harmful entity in the spiritual realm.  I've heard there are certain herbs or flower essences or crystals that one can put next to their physical body while astral projecting that will protect them from harmful entities during their travels.  I do not know whether these things work or not, someone on the forum might know.  
    Concerning the question of what happens to someone when they die, and their silver cord is severed?  Does some force move them into a new spiritual dimension within 5 minutes of the death, say to a bright light where loved ones are waiting.  Does this procedure not always work, and sometimes there is not bright light or loved ones, and the person is just left in the spiritual realm at the physical location where he died.  Then once the person realizes in his particular situation something has gone wrong and there is no bright light or loved ones, does he just begin to interact with all the other astral life on that realm that is directly linked to the Earth.  Say that is the case, would that person have the ability to move out of that realm on his own, and travel to higher astral or spiritual planes to seek answers.  Or would that person after death lose his ability to move to any other astral or spiritual planes.
    Here is a question.  Maybe some of us go to heaven, maybe some go to Hell, and maybe the rest that are in between get re-incarnated.
    If anyone has any ideas or knows the answers to any of these questions, please reply and express your views and ideas.

Tyler has some interesting questions

    Concerning the silver cord.  I don't know if it is silver or not, but it is there.  While you are astral projecting and are in your spiritual body, reach behind your head on your spiritual body, and you will fill a protrusion and somewhat thick cord coming out of the back of the head of your spiritual body.
   It only makes sense, if there is nothing whatsoever connecting you to your physical body, then you should be in the spiritual realm permanently.  Only when the attachment between the physical body and spiritual body is broken, does the spirit leave the physical body and enter into the spiritual realm for it's next transition.
   The question I have is this.  Can any entities besides God and the Holy Angels sever your silver cord why you are astral projecting.  If they can what devices in the spiritual realm would they use to do this, or what technique would they use to do this.  If anyone has ever died while astral projecting by having the cord severed, it's for sure they were not able to come back to tell us about it or warn us about certain entities.
    I do not believe that God or the Holy Angels would sever the cord of a human being that is astral projecting in the spiritual realm, unless that human being was doing something way to far, and even then God may still not intervene and sever it because of free will in creation.  But if God will not ever sever a cord of a human who is astral projecting.  Are there any other entities that lack the power of God, that have ever succeeded in severing the cord of a human being that was astral projecting.  

Hi Tarconiss and warlockyoshi

  I'm glad some people are talking about these issues.  Is that how the Catholics make Holy water, or is that how certain other people make Holy water?  Can Holy water be made in more than one way?  
    That is an interesting concept someone helping someone by absorbing the negative energy out of their body, and then dispelling it into the air.  Have you ever been able to force a negative entity out of a person who wanted it out.  I'm not talking about negative energy, I'm talking about an actual negative entity or negative being of some sort.  If you have can you describe the experience, and whether the being moved into you, or whether it just moved out of the person back into the spiritual realm.
    You're right it might be difficult to eventually get rid of or imprison all negative and harmful entities in the spiritual realm, but if we ever develop the technology we ought to try to get as many of them as we can.
    Do either of you know of any ways for detecting if a neg is attached to a person in some way using either some kind of an electrical device or some kind of photographic type equipment?
    Well anyway if you know any people who might have some answers or ideas on any of the questions that cover this topic, please have them give their input or ideas.

It's true that God isn't alone Clover.  He exists as the Trinity, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.  At least that is what I believe.  If you read Question No. 1 again about the existence of God, I believe I can answer your other question.  I believe there is two possibilities and two possible answeres for His existence.  There could be another that could possibly make some sense.  
    You mentioned what existed in our space before God created Earth and the Cosmos.  I don't believe anything existed accept for the prime, ultimate reality God.  God then created another reality in which He then created our entire Cosmos where nothing existed before.  Also before something can really have an existence their must be a consciousness of some type there to acknowledge that some type of matter even exists.  What good is it for matter to exist somewhere if there is no consciousness anywhere that is aware of it.  It may be existing, but it doesn't know about it and neither does anyone else.  I feel it's only relevant for any matter to exist, if there is a consciousness somewhere that is aware of it's existence.

    Just something else for you to think about as you look for answers.

[Question No. 1]

Hi Spirit Gurl

    I can tell you where your answer lies.  I don't mean to sound like the Matrix or anything, but you need to go to the Source.  The questions you are asking can be answered but can be better answered if you first answer these questions?

    Where did God come from?

    Why did God choose to create us?

    Did God create other types of entities besides us?

    Where are these entities homes, and are some created in a        
    permanent type home while others may have two or more homes  
    because of the transitional aspect of their created nature?

    Let's make this a discussion forum for these questions, and to find the answers that you and all of us are looking for.  Let's address the four questions above one by one.

Question No. 1:     God's existence I believe only has two possibilities.  He exists because he is pure love in his nature, and only pure love can defy logic, defy reason, and defy the impossible and come into existence by it's ownself.  The second possibility is that there exists one primary permanent reality from which all other realities that God has created stems from.  God himself exists in the primary permanent reality which is the ultimate true reality where the logical concepts of beginning and end, and start to finish do not exist.  In other words in that reality God has always existed and always will exist.  From that reality God created our reality along with ourselves.  After God created our reality he then also entered into our reality with us.  God created our minds in such a way that we could best interact with and enjoy our reality.  In order to do that he created a reality where there were such things as beginning and endings, and starts and finishes.  He then created our mind where it coincided with that reality, to where with our minds and our reality it only seems and will always seem that everything must have a beginning and end, and a start or finish.  It just seems logical to us.  Each reality has it's own set of what seems logical.  To us a beginning and end is our set.  To God in the primary ultimate reality, the fact that he exists and has always existed and will always exist, is the logic of that reality that only someone in that particular reality can see.  

Question No. 2:  Why did God Choose to create us?  First in my beliefs, I believe in the Christian Trinity.  The Trinity is a family who loves each other very much.  The love that the Trinity had for each other as a family could not be contained within itself, and the love over flowed from the Trinity out of unbelievable abundance.  This led the Universal one true God (The Trinity) to create us, to have offspring, and to share the love it had within itself with all it's offspring.  This also led the Trinity to create the universe and the different worlds in a way where they were structured along the lines of a family.  Families are very important to God, and God is a family within Himself.  So the answer is the Trinity created us to share his love, joy, and happiness with us.  To not have acted, and to not have created would have been a suppression on the natural out pouring of the love within the Trinity. For all we know the Trinity could still be creating worlds and entitys even right now continuing the families of all realities.

Question No. 3:  Did God Create other types of entities besides us?   From my answer from the last question, you know that I believe God has created other types of entities and worlds besides us.  Even people on this forum who have traveled the spiritual realm, have seen communities in that spiritual realm of certain types of entities.  Some have also encountered some of God's offspring in that realm, the Angels.  I believe in the physical realm that there are a number of other planets that are probably inhabited by entities who have some similarity as us, and by entities who look totally different from us in almost all aspects.  The one question that needs to be answered is whether God has created another cosmos separate from this physical cosmos, and in no way connected to this cosmos that we occupy.  Another question is whether the spiritual realm extends all throughout this physical cosmos, and if human beings could travel in the spiritual realm to another inhabited planet and see those physical enities (or aliens) from the spiritual realm through astral projection.  If this is true, then it means we can explore all the planets in this cosmos and identify all physical entities and offspring God has created besides us, before we acquire the complete ability for space travel through technology.  We can possibly explore and locate now, and when our space technology catches up we can then interact possibly with these other enities and offspring, and explore other worlds and other planets in the physical. But while we do this we must always keep in mind the reason that God has created to share his life and love with others.  We must also keep in mind that in some places with some entities that certain entities have used their free wills to try to sabotage and harm others.  If there is anyway to stop some of these entities, and do our part to try to help heal creation some, then we need to figure out ways to try to stop those harmful entities.  But the over all answer to this question is I believe God has created a lot of entities and a lot of offspring both in the physical realm in this cosmos, in possibly other cosmos, and in the spiritual realms of the cosmos's he has created.

Question No. 4:  Where are these entities homes, and are some created in a permanent type home, while others may have two or more homes because of the transitional aspect of their created nature?  This is an important question.  Human beings were created with two homes because of the transitional aspect of their created nature.  They first have their human home on the Earth in the physical realm, then when it comes time for them to pass away, they go to their 2nd home which has already been created and prepared for them by God.  It is the place in the spiritual realm where human offspring go.  This place is not the same place as the home for other entities and offspring created by God.  The Angels were created in a permanent home because there was not a transitional aspect of their created nature.  God created a home and place for his offspring,the Angels in the Spiritual realm.  There are probably a lot of other spiritual offspring besides the Angels that God has created.  These to had a place created for them by God where they live in the spiritual realm.  It's possible that humans sometimes while astral projecting have traveled through some of these entities worlds and homes in the spiritual realm.  Now it is possible even though each entity and offspring created by God has it's own particular home it lives in or that it eventually goes to (if he/she was created with a transitional nature), that sometimes some of the entities or offspring may be allowed to briefly pass through another entity or offsprings world, environment, or home.  For example the Angels sometimes pass through the environment and homes of the human beings in the spiritual realm, once those human beings have passed away and entered their new home in the spiritual realm.  In summary God has made a home for all his entities and offspring, whether in this cosmos or the next.

    Now Spirit Gurl to get back to your questions.  To find your answers we must turn to the Source.

Questions of Spirit Gurl and many others!

1.  How does my life matter? You'll find that answer by finding out your origin and why you exist.  You'll also find that answer by finding out why you matter to the Trinity that created you.  I think you now know the answers to these questions.

2.  Will my soul care when I die?I believe the answer to that question is up to you.  I believe our soul is part of us, and we cannot exist without it, and it cannot exist without us.  It's part of our being.  Your soul is part of you and will care if you care, and not care if you don't care.

3.  How does anything matter? To answer that question one must find where all things come from.  Then one must find out why some things may or may not matter to God more so than others.  If certain things matter to God, then an entity created by God must decide whether those things that matter to God matter to him or not.  Free choice and free will that was given us by God.  God loves us so much He will never violated our own free choices and our free will.  

4.  Who will care if I die tommorrow?The answer is probably most the same people you would care about if they died tomorrow.

5.  How does it matter if I'm happy right now?The only people it probably does matter to is yourself and the Trinity, and certain loved ones and friends.

6.  How do our lives matter?  Our lives matter to God (Trinity), and others we care about and who care about us.

7.  Why does it matter to be happy now, as there is always another life to be happy in?  First If I believe in re-incarnation it is in a very limited and rare sense.  But even saying that re-incarnation happens, and is happening to some human beings, lets see where the scenario of your question would lead.  If a person maintained the stance and attitude that you have mentioned in every life then they would never be happy.  A person has to start to be happy somewhere, they might as well start now in this life.  If they presently are unable to start now in this life because of some un-wanted situations they have run into that has caused them some difficulty, then they need to work on their mind, and learning about the mind.  They need to learn skills they can use with their mind to help them see past their problems, to be able to understand their problems, and put them into a perspective where those things or unpleasant experiences of the past can in no way hold them back.  It can be done.  There are many books out there written by intelligent and caring people about how to not let your mind control you, but you control your mind.  They have also written books on how to not let people get to you, and to just brush things off and keep going.  No matter what has happened you can with seeking and understanding gain your happiness back.  Seek (research)and you shall find.  

    Spirit Gurl, I hoped the reply I have written has helped. The human race is moving into a new technological age, and our Creator is going to be right there with us hoping we move in the right directions. However, there are some entites that have been created by him that have used their free wills for evil desires, and are seeking to harm others and harm creation.  God, I believe, is hoping we figure out a number of different ways to stop these harmful entities.  There are a number of laws that work in our reality.  We have managed by these laws to build efficient cars, spacecraft, and high tech. devices.  I hope one day we will figure out a way to completely stop these negative entities out there, and possibly find a way to imprison them, so they can no longer harm others or creation.  

    In Summary the Trinity created all of us.  In some worlds and some cosmos some things have gone wrong.  We as God's offspring as we keep our minds open and learn more, must do our part to try to help fix some of the things that have gone wrong.  We can do this why also enjoying the beautiful things in the world that God has created, and while also enjoying life and our friends.
 

I'm curious.  Have you ever tried any of those mushrooms yourself.  How do you know for sure they work.  Plus even if they work wouldn't you agree that it only let's the person fighting the neg know it's there.  No one else can see the neg.  If another person took the mushroom along with the person fighting the neg, do you then think the other person could see the neg on the person who is fighting it.  Do you know any dangers or side affects from taking such a mushroom, and where could a person locate such mushrooms.