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But its not equalling you as ridiculous.

I mean dont make fun of topic ... This topic have a meaning here. Its not garbage.

Yeah but look at Robert Bruce , how long do you think he project ?

But 30 min , way to go man , its a lot of time to be in a different world !

I never had a dream that lasted more than 15 minutes... I would freak out to have a 30 min things...

Oh man , the best thing in the world.

I would love to have a dream or astral projection about that.

3d blackness seem very dangerous to me...

I dont think you can be trap in astral.

I feeled sometime a person next to me while I was trying to project.

I stopped right away because it scared me. It was like someone was watching me project.

Caffienater -) Were you really fully  awake when you saw the weird TV experience ?

Because I haved numerous dream about feeling that my Television was opened , while feeling I was in my bed (not in a dream or asleep). This is very common , its just sound hallucination.

The weirdest thing that I have its when I was at primary school. I was sleeping and I was hearing music from my radio. I know they were not opening or anything because I shutted them.

I dont know if I do it for real or in a dream , but I shutted down my radio by plugging out my electricity plug.
After a moment I heard another time the strange radio.

My first try was almost my most succesfull...

I think my mind was fully into the project.

I think I got the idea of phasing.

But it look a lot more difficult than trying to do a regular exit technique.

And it look way less fun , when I exit , the sensation is so good is incomparable to anything , what do you think ?

Do you think with phasing you really are going in the same astral as an exit technique ? Because im sure it could happen with phasing that you enter a dream or a lucid dream and you think its a astral trip.

And we have to think , were glad to pay for that because if we didnt pay we wouldn't have more than one book that talk about astral projection and that would suck.

And the book would be so damn little and it would suck. Money bring more quality books.

I tryed yesterday to try to see aura in school but I didnt have a single verification.

These thing look though like astral projection , or maybe you have to be gifted.

I feeled some day light all around me when I tryed to project. But I was not out , it was before when I feeled the vibration.

You were out , in the astral , or you were just trying to project ?

Your not right OBE dont last for a few minutes . Somebody that know a lot about OBE can spend about a hour if they want in the astral.

and you have to add

4. They have to be at the same astral plane. You know when we project we go in a plane , lower plane are more evil and contain bad entity .
And higher plane , physical life is more clear and its more in Real Time Zone.

So you have to be lucky to be in the same plane. But someone experimented can change plane at will.

I dont know I dont build my chakra , how do you do that ?

Thanks for sharing

This sound is very common , while I tryed to project I usually hear more ear sound ...

Some experienced astral traveler claim that they met friends or did experiment but we dont really know if its true !

What is really phasing ?

Just doing a regular AP or you have to do it a certain way ?

Its 2 month that I try and I the farthest that I go is moving my astral body just a little.

Dont give up , its like sports , you have to really pratice every day so we can see your face someday in the TV.

Why its dangerous to experience with the third eyes ?

And do you think we can see aura of people on the television or in a picture ?

Could you tell shared LD or OBE ?

I would very like to do it , like go in the house of my friend and play in a good way with his dream a little.

Could it be done with a OBE ?
Because I heard it could be done with a LD...

How do you do it ?

I heard some tales of dream that some people haved dream that looked like days... And someone said it lasted a lifetime. At his awakening , he didnt even think about real life....

I dont know if its true but these things are freaky , you know I woulndt to do a dream of a week.

But if it can happen in dream maybe in AP too.

On the opposite surely not because the physical body get really tired of going in the astral.

Lucid Dreaming are a great way to achieve OBE. I heard its very more easy and rare thats its unsuccesfull.

But the problem is Lucid Dream is just like a dream in a kind of way. So when you lucid like in a dream you don't always think right and about the right thing you want to do.

Myself , I never tryed to AP by a Lucid Dream because I never think about that while im lucid because there is so much thing to do while your lucid.

Whenever do AP but dont do Lucid Dream (LD) should do it. It help a lot for OBE and you can do everything you want while Lucid , with a lot of pratice...

Im sure you was not dissapointed ...

The feeling of vibration and the hypnogogic hallucination are really great too. Thats just a new sensation that is a blast to have.

Please we dont have to change the subject of the threads and go on a politic/war/other country subject.