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I like this method. This morning, I woke up right before my alarm going off. I remembered this method and immediately felt the cell phone in my hand. I was amazed, it felt sooo real. I was turning the cell phone in my hand feeling every part of it in wonder. I then started to detach and my alarm went off. Bummer. I'll have to try this again, most def.

It said I was a healer which I have been told before. The most active chakra was the same in both tests. Very interesting.

All,

It's been a long time since I visited the group. I've been having some interesting things happening lately! Whenever I return from an AP the bed will be shaking. I'm not talking about the vibration normally associated with AP, I'm talking full on shaking. At first I thought it was just me (feeling it), or the house, but it's completely random. It can be any house or hotel, any time of day and my wife and kids can also feel it. It will usally continue for about 30 seconds after i return or wake up. It doesn't scare me and lately I've been trying to make it intensify, no luck though, if anything I'm making it go away.

Has anyone else had this experience? Any advice welcome!

Thanks,
Kevin

I had this happen once well before I knew what OBEs and AP was. I was a very active and conservative christian at that point and thought it was demons trying to mess with me or something. This was about 3 years ago and now looking back I am unsure if it was just really strong vibrations but I remember waking up scared to death waking my wife to pray with me.... It has never happened since then though.

Mike

I do not remember where I read it, but I have heard that sometimes we can project without knowing and something that can happen is that we think we are not breathing because we have projected unknowingly and the astral counterpart does not breath. Not sure of the validity of this argument though.

It works really well, so I've taught it to clients for over ten years now.

What line of work do you do that you teach clients this? I may be interested.

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Another thing im not sure about is the idea of these vibrations. People say they feel these vibrations yet fail to describe them in enough detail. are they just tingling size vibrations? small like an electric razor? medium like the rumble on a games console controller or strong like some sort of epileptic fit? or even weirder, does it get stronger the further into the astral you go?
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The vibrations can be all of those. I remember my first time feeling the vibrations (unintentionally at the time because I knew nothing of OBEs) it felt as if my bed was shaking and boy was I scared.

Almost inmediately I feel someone breathing in my ear. I moved my head to that side with the intention to see who the person or being was but I can not see anything. The feeling was calm and warm so I streched my energetic hand and touch my companion. It was my husband, who was already in his job, and I place my hand in his head and face to make sure the being was him.

Its possible since your husband was already at work that the person that your mind made to be your husband was actually your physical body. I have read that if you have separated from the body but are still lying within your body that you can hear yourself breathing, etc and having to make a conclusion of what it is your mind can make something up that would seem reasonable. Another place I read that a person took their astral hands and were able to feel hair behind them. In the end they found out it was just their physical body.

And what legend would that be?

Its part of Dante's Inferno.

I don't know the answer to your question, but I must reiterate that if you're an epileptic you should not try to use binaural beats, for the same reason that strobe lights can bring on a seizure.

I noticed when looking today at the hemi-sync tracks that it warns against people trying it that have epilepsy. Funny you should bring that up. I went ahead and tried the tracks though even though I am epileptic. I am still on the first Wave and so far so good. I do not think I will have a seizure though just because I have been grand mal seizure (the shaking seizures) free since 1999 and very rarely have any other type of epileptic symptoms.

I have heard that when going back in, it is possible to get in upside down? Is that true and how does it feel if it has happened to you.

I am too, post-epileptic (even though I had never heard of that term before) and still take my pills off and on (I am not too rigorous with my pill taking). I am not too great at OBEs but have had some successful attempts nonetheless. I would still like to see if there is someone here that may be able to answer your question a little better.

You can do it without it.

Your affirmations (The stating that you are going to have an OBE) are causing your subconcious to allow OBEs to be easier. Along with energy work and meditation, affirmations can help to lay the path for easier attempts at OBEs. Affirmations are a good way to create the life that you want to live.

I tried it to see the feelings I got but to not go through with the complete obe. I felt a tugging as if the separation was soon but I ended up stopping after that. Next time I have some time I will try it to go completely through with the obe and let you know how it works.

I have also heard that your senses are heightened within an OBE and so sounds can be louder than they actually are. I have heard my wife in another room while trying OBEs as if she was right beside me.

I have never heard the theory that the moon will one day actually crash into the earth. In fact the moon is moving away from the earth at about an inch a year. Over a lifespan this is not too noticeable, but over a course of a million years things like tides will be weaker. Check out information at Astronomy magazine's web site: http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=a&id=2195

I have never had anything like that before and most LDs that I have had end when I find out it is a dream and decide to take control.

This sounds like your higher self, God, or someone thought you needed to learn a lesson of gratefulness. From your post it sounds like you did. Good job.

Root: open (31%)
Sacral: open (44%)
Navel: open (56%)
Heart: over-active (81%)
Throat: open (44%)
Third Eye: open (25%)
Crown: open (19%)

Is over-active bad? My heart chakra seems to always be overactive.

Thanks Ka0s your post was amazing. You are right that some people expect others on this site to be a know it all in everything metaphysical. I am much a student of knowledge and have read many things by Robert Monroe and Robert Bruce such as Astral Dynamics. I also have viewed a video course offered free by gnosiicweb.com. It is good though to have a venue such as these forums to be able to ask questions.

I also know how some things can conflict with the Christian doctrine. I recently stopped practicing Christianity due to these types of forums, conflicting belief systems around the world, and other personal issues of seeking out truth. I took a step back in by religious beliefs that I have been brought up since I was nine months in the womb so to speak to analyze what is truth and what do I believe. I guess you could say I am a searcher right now, a searcher of truth. If I come back to Christianity, great, but I am only a seeker right now and hold no official title of religion just yet.

I want to thank you once again for your post and you are correct that I am genuinely curious and actively doing my homework. There are so many threads in this forum and I try to read about 4 - 6 a day to increase my knowledge.

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Thanks a lot both Ka0s and Tayesin.

I guess because of this was my first experience that felt really real (while feeling hazy at the same time) I was very concerned about two things: Not staying out too long because I have read that if you are new to OBEs and stay out too long that you will run out of energy and the whole experience gets lost or something. And two, to not go too far from my home. With those concerns in mind I made sure to remind myself to remember the experience and I guess I thought my way to where I wanted to go as you said Tayesin and this led to the inconsistent "how did I get here".

Also, I remember one slight feeling of vibrations while out because I decided to take notice of them, but never recalled the actual getting out/in feelings or noises that many say they feel such as a pop, heart chakra pounding, vibrations, electricity, etc. Is this normal or is it more common to have some kind of exit/reentry sensation?

I thank you both for sharing your wisdom as I read many more posts and keep at this thing.

Hello to you as well Mimi. I am new as well to registering, but not new to the astralpules forums. They are great. Welcome.

I have been trying to have OBEs on and off for a while and think I had one last night. The first question I have is how do you tell the difference between a dream and a successful OBE? The experience after finally getting up this morning was hazy feeling like a dream would be and so I did not know how I could tell the difference between an OBE and a dream.

My experience last night was this. I woke up around 4 am and decided to try projecting. Next thing I know I am traveling down my hallway and I remember making a mental note to take a running jump through my front door to the outside. I actually felt scared that I would run into the door. I wanted to go outside because it was raining and ever since learning about OBE that was one of my goals to go out and fly in the rain. Next thing I know I am flying over my street in the rain no more than 3 houses away from my house. I am there for only a minute or less and I remind myself that I need to remember this experience and not stay out long. I aim straight for my house chanting as I am flying "I am going to remember this".

There were points in the above experience that I do not recall such as being in my room or traveling back through my home back to my body. Gaps in the whole experience so to speak. So my second question is do some OBE's have some 'inconsistencies' when traveling such as 'how did I get here?'.

Thanks for any help