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Hey everyone,

This is an awesome song i found a while ago now, its an old 70's song about meeting on the astral plane,
pretty funny. Thought some of you's would think its funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVjmtyE-aP0

thanks for sharin the love man.
cheers 

this may sound stupid, but i find my mouth getting dry, and i have to swallow while trying to project. its really annoying. cos it brings my body awareness back i think. i breathe in through nose and out through the nose. should i try out through the mouth? this has been with me from day 1 this question. im not trynna overcomplicate n e thing else lol, just this burning question i keep forgetting to ask i needa straighten out. the breathing.

yeah i just remembered the cube thing after i wrote the post lol. when you visualize it, do you try and visualize all different parts of it, and turn it over in your mind. or in a stationary position. thanks paul

thankyou tiny, youve been awesomly helpful 
thats wat i was thinking, the more thinking the worse lol
the only thing im wondering is, by reference point u mean, stare at a particular part behind the eyes and jus go with the flow ey? something like that? ok maybe this will be easier, wat is your reference point if you dont mind me asking?

thanks for all your help. im about to try and project right now!

ok tiny, thankyou so much. i'm gonna try that method soon. hey 'personaleality,' yeah its funny like that. the first time i properly tried to project seriously and patiently i got the furthest i think. and now i've read all this stuff and complicated it and confused my mind i havnt got to that same stage lol. by narrowing your focus to a point, you mean stare at one point directly or remain thinking about one certain thing? i heard of the method of saying a name/word or sound in your head till it amplifies, and not to even do the breathing cos it will take care of itself.

i know it mind sound stupid. but i find it hard now to try at night cos i think some black figure is gonna be standing at the end of my bed or some excrement haha. i know fear perpetuates things like this so i gotta stop that. but i read so many things here on the forums. it almost seems like the less you know of astral projection. besides the simple basics, and maybe an easy method. the better, cos your mind ends up getting these pre conceived ideas and complicates itself and that. now im just rambling lol

thanks though

Yes 'Tiny', this is what i have been thinking. that projection may be made sound harder and more complicated than it is. so say i am laying down and trying to project, i imagine the cube above me? what about breathing and that? the other method i have just read recently is saying a name, or word constantly and just forget about breathing, and soon the sound amplify's and you get the the jus before separation state. also to sleep for an hour or so, wake up for an hour or so then try it then. thanks alot tiny

Ahzab, much appreciated, thanks for the helpful info, i intend to try and project tonight, i'll update how i go

thanks ahzab33, that was a huge help! ive been reading lots of material, and im currently doin the 90 day Mastering astral projection book by robert bruce. the coolest method ive read just recently, is goin to sleep for an hour or an hour and a half, then staying awake for an hour, then apparently because ur body has just been denied the REM sleep somehow this helps when you go to project and lay down again after the hour awake. wat do u mean winking out in trance? sorry lol

That sounds awesome 'ahzab33'. you got really far by the sounds of it. That blindfold technique sounds interesting too, i think i might try it. Oh thanks 'metaphysically born', i do actually have a couple some of those magic eye books, so i'll get onto it. the twitching is quite distracting, so hopefully this helps. thanks

I found this guide for astral projection on facebook. This guy really seems to know what he's talking about.
I urge everyone to read this, as im still trying to project and his methods really sound like they make sense.
Seriously give it a read, super interesting!!

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/topic.php?uid=2205223106&topic=25005

For those other people doing their daily exercises and practising hard, leading up to their first OBE, i just wanted to know if you are starting to experience a little bit of heightened awareness too? For me, after finishing the energy work and breathing exercises. just walking around the house things seem to jump into my awareness so to speak. i'm noticing things that would normal just seem to go by. for instance if i was walking towards the tv with it in my line of sight. i dont just focus on it, and all other things go past relatively unnoticed, but i naturally notice things on my way to it. theres a sense of greater awareness of my surroundings.

i dont know if this makes sense lol.

anyone share their thoughts? would love to hear from any experienced OBE'ers who noticed this at the start of their 'journey'

thanks 

Yeah i tried again aswell, with a bigger candle flame this time. Much the same thing happened again. the flame turned into a gren sort of opening, this time much bigger, and its very hard to focus on as my eyes always naturally twitch when i do this, as much as i try not to, and im still maintaining focus on the flame, yet everytime they twitch and fades a bit and focus is lost. still im goin to try this a few more times.

Thanks chimp! that sounds awesome, im seriously anticipating trying this again tonight now i have a better understanding of it. This flame excersise is awesome, because as soon as you close your eyes you feel like your making progress and have something to work with. i'll try it again tonight and update my progress.

thanks again 

oh ok thanks CFtraveler, these spirits he mentions in the last video, he states that if you open your eyes, and look around after the star field, they are sort of moving around in weird positions. i think he meant opening your physical eyes, so this didnt make sense. have you experienced this? and does this star field means you have nearly projected, but havnt quite yet? is that what u mean? kind of like when ur ready to separate?

still good news 11_Chimp_11! i was excited that the first part worked, it seems to be a reliable method i think.
yeah, i also think it helps for how big the flame on your candle is. for instance, mine was alot smaller than that of the one in the video, and the wick was small on the candle. so i only had a small flame to work with. so it will probs leave a smaller impression in the mind. after watching all the videos the other day, and hearing the things in vids 3/4. i was unsure whether it was projection. i mean i havnt projected myself so i suppose i wouldnt know, but the guy in the vid states that his friends he has taught all experience the 'star field' and the same things. if this was a projection method wouldnt some project in normal ways like end up out of there body and not always experience the same thing as told in the video, as everyone is different.

Thanks alot guys!, yeah ive just started the Mastering astral projection 90 day book course. I'm gonna take a step back and be patient, i like to see any progress when lying down as learning anyway, and feel im gettin a little closer everytime, and like to feel that its making it easier and easier for me over time. I think i might even stop any attempts for a while, and just focus on this course, i'll have it when im ready i suppose, and i'm gonna try and forget about the time frame, and just do the exercises to build my skills. but yeah im not going to restrict myself to the fact that its gonna take eactly 90 days. It just sounds so amazing that its easy to get impatient i suppose. i know it will all pay off in the end anyway!

thanks guys!

Yeah, let me know how you go. I tried it, i stared at a small candle for about five minutes. then tried to find the focus point with my eyes closed. The faint greenish dot turned very vivid and started moving around, it then turned red, it was really hard to focus on and i eventually lost it or it faded. but i'll try again tomorrow.

hey there michaelsaganski, im actually starting Mastering astral projection today haha, hence why i've stumbled across your post, as i was looking for some success stories of using the book here on the forums, i'll be sure to let you know if i make any progress, let me know if you do too!

Its pretty exciting, and im sure it will pay off with dedication. good luck

wow this sounds extremelely interesting. So how much energy work do you have to do on top of that required for astral projection to get there?

no problem

This paticular youtube video on the link below shows quite a different method from most i have seen for astral projection. Alot of the video comments are very positive, and the speaker in the video seems quite adamant that it works very well. Just thought some people might be stuck with getting out like me lol, and this method sounds quite useful. GOOD LUCK!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkWNB9inwI0&feature=related

oh yeah really, i read that when you just sort of stop focusing on it and being anxious even, if you just go with the flow and not try to experience the sensations but just wait for them, sort of thing. thats meant to work i think. i think its kind of like that franks phasing method thats here on astral pulse. Hard to explain lol. what i mean is, sort of forget the methods, just relax maybe focus a little on breathing then go with it. its frustrating being so close though ey

Hey there guys. Basically i started reading up about projection 3 or 4 weeks ago now, and have been trying to project quite a bit since. I started yoga a few months back, doing it once and sometimes twice a week. So i think thats been helpful in me trying to project, and im hoping it wont take me long. I mean, cos i hear of people trying for months or even a year or more with no success.

My progress has been good i think. The first couple of times i tried with no results. but the third or so time, has probably been my most closest projection i think so far. Basically i felt that that sudden surge of energy sensation wash over my body quite suddenly when practising, it went numb and fairly light, then i was having serious rapid fluttering of my eyelids. I may have imagined it, but im fairly sure the blackness behind my eyes seemed to expand a bit and became starry. Since then i have tried most nights with similar results of feeling through my body, but no starry sky. I even saw a very vivid little white dot appear once about the size of a pea or smaller.

I've been using little foam earplugs to get a real deep sense of quietness, it seems to help alot. But i'm not hearing any sounds such as the supposed roaring, or voices or such things. i guess everyones different, but i feel im getting really close to projection, but just cant seem to project or finalise it.

I do get the deep sensations of almost just focusing on the mind and blackness behind the eyes, and pretty much not feeling the physical body.

Any help would be amazingly helpful, and im sure these forums get these questions all the time, so i do apologise lol

thanks guys