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#1
Yes, to the best of my knowledge I did it yesterday.   :-)
It was my first conscious, intentional "exit".

In the way of false awakenings I have only ever been to the point of leaving the bed without realising I wasn't awake once, and I realised pretty quickly because the house was WEIRD.


As CFTraveller and AstralBeginnings said, if you can recognise the state for what it is when you "wake up" (a dreamy, hazy light all around is what tells me first), then I believe you are most of the way out anyway.

Some suggestions from my very limited experience..
Next time the false awakening happens, casually observe your feeling of disconnection from your body, think about raising/moving your astral arms and rubbing your astral hands together. If you can really feel them touch, you're there.
I just "commando rolled" out to the side and off the bed. It doesn't hurt, you don't feel the landing and you will possibly end up in blackness. Feel around you and make contact with your unseen surroundings.

Hope that helps!  :-D


#2
Sounds like you had a great time! There are some good tips in there that I didn't think of.

I understand where you're coming from.. I had my first intentional conscious projection (from a false awakening after a lucid dream) this morning, would love for it not to be so unpredictable, but when I tried to remember to do excercises upon waking, I never could. This morning I realised my body was asleep so I just "rolled out".

If you got to go for that long you must be doing well, I've heard people say their first intentional exit didn't last long.

When you find yourself projecting again, I suggest don't summon your partner like I did, cause things can get too friendly whether you consciously intend it or not, and you'll probably get kicked back into your body. I think it's a  "that's not what you're here for" message.
#3
That's pretty strange..

I have no experience in that particular type of occurence, but I wanted to point out that I have almost never really in my varying states of "separation" (only done it consciously twice, once intentionally) had any buzzing sensations, vibrations, faces appearing, noises or anything like that. All I have had up until recently is a somewhat conscious false awakening with a keen awareness of paralysis in my physical body. Seems to happen differently for everyone.

Sounds like a "projection" to me though, I suggest read up on different accounts of the phenomena. :-)
There's a theory which makes sense to me that "regular" dreams, lucid dreams, and "astral projection" are all basically the same occurence, but with differing levels of awareness/consciousness/lucidity. Apparently astral consciousness can feel more real than physical reality. Sounds like you had the priviledge of being more aware than usual. Similar things might happen again now if you're thinking a lot about it.  :-)
#4
I haven't seen the episode and my interweb is too slow but.. correlations between a Spongebob episode, Astral and the Akashic Records? Hahahahahahahahaha.. I'm all for it.
#5
Thanks  :-)

I'll write it all down then, starting with the lucid dream I had beforehand cause I remembered quite a bit.

The lucidity started with the awesome dream where I was with my partner and his housemate/best friend on a grassy hillside somewhere that had a facility type building underneath it.
I was looking intently up at the sky cause I felt there was something strange about it. Keps staring at the moon waiting for someting. I think my partner thought I was being dreamy and silly for doing it.
I looked away to talk to him and when I looked back, there were all these "moon shards" or rather like 5 or so 3 quarter full glowing moons floating around one another. They seemed to be within the atmosphere though. I just gazed at them awestruck at what I was seeing. Then this other MASSIVE sphere appeared in the atmosphere. It was a gunmetal grey, rotating spherical puzzle with pieces missing that looked to be made of mercury. It shifted a lot as to where the holes were. Another appeared.  :-o
Got my partner and his friend to look and they were impressed and curious. I wanted to go get my camera. I wanted to show my ex partner, because he basically lives for this kind of stuff. I said something to the effect that if I got my camera, we all know it will disappear, haha.. my partner wandered off and I went to get my camera, which is the one I have in real life.. and sure enough they were gone when I got back. Then we started to get paranoid and head toward the facility under the hill, and I think this is where I had the false awakening.

So I "wake up" and I pick up that something's amiss. There's a hazy glowing light to everything, and my body feels odd. I don't notice the paralysis that has freaked me out so much in the past. So I get kind of passively, dreamily excited, if that makes sense, and test my body. I start to move my arms and brush my unseen hands together. I love the feeling my energetic hands make as I do this.. I think "well.. if my hands are out I might as well try rolling!" And it worked first go.
I end uprolling into in blackness with a vague dim feeling of carpet. I think I got sucked back into my body so I repeated the process but this time decided to blindly touch all that surrounded me.

Eventually awareness dawns and by this time I'm running down a corridor, and I think I thought about visiting my mother first and I don't think it worked. Might have for a half second appeard in what looked like her house. So I thought hard about those islands in Norway, and floating. The sensations weren't 100%, but it still felt very much like I was in my "real body".
I was transported, mid float-jump, to a place of rolling grassland with a suggestion of dramatic coastal islands way off in the background. The grass I landed on is the coarse short Australian grass we have as lawns here and I saw it up close. I felt I needed to deepen the experience so I did something I love to do, which is roll down hills. It worked, felt it prickling all over my body and the air whooshing past. :-D

I think I floated briefly there then decided to think about my partner and see him (I'm female btw).
I appeared outside a dwelling in a hill and I knew he was inside.  I got this feeling innitially like there was another energy in there, but not a scary one. There were tall large glass windows set into the hill and maybe porch. Before I got there I had this weird experience where I think I found some technology I'm not familiar with and was transported briefly to be veiwing this skyscraper building. I thought in confusion "I don't want to be here" and went back to the hill scene. 

I appeared inside the dwelling and there was my lovely standing in a smallish room with a bare wooden table and some chairs. I went and gave him a hug, partly to maintain the experience and make him more real, and partly because I just wanted to. I think he was chatting to me about something but I can't remember what. Then he decided to eat and there was a roast chicken on the table. I am actually vegetarian and haven't eaten chicken for years, but thought, well, nothing's really died for this so I ate some. Again the experience was a little vague and it was texturally similar to baked spiced potato but with crispy chicken skin on top.
Then I imagined the whole table covered in delicious food and it appears.

Now I'm not going to censor my journey too much, I then thought since my partner is here it would be an interesting feeling to have sex on this table full of food (I think there were things like fresh eels and stuff in the banquet as well as baked things, haha).
I think that thought/action got me pulled out of my projection because I woke up for real as soon as it started to happen. I was fully conscious and alert as soon as I returned to my waking state.

I've read reports that some people initially and naturally get sexually excited in projections but as soon as they act on it they're "thrown out".

I wrote what I could remember down (had a pad and pen by the bed) then texted my partner who is at work to say I succeeded.
#6
Not just for personal responses, but the very existence of this forum and people posting their own accounts of what works/doesnt.
I have also read the instructional part of the obe4u.com manual, and Xanth's Primer, and these have helped with seeing different perspectives, techniques and attitudes. The theory that dreams/lucid dreaming/projections are all the same state but with differing degrees of awareness/lucidity really helped me understand and be more comfortable.

I had success this morning!

In the first False Awakening I have had since my first post a couple of weeks ago (stopped having them after I realised it was a good thing), I immediately saw it for what it was and went with it, tested my astral limbs for sensations, brushed my "hands" together and just "rolled out", easy. A few times, because the first couple of attempts were rather confused in all the blackness and vague suggestions of carpet.
The e-books I mentioned earlier really helped me stay in it, but they didn't help me mentally going overdrive and WANTINGTODOEVERYTHINGATONCE out of elation.

I don't know if the regulars here are bored by the floods of detailed first accounts.. So I'll give the montage version and suffice it to say I went on a brief but interesting first astral journey..

In what I think was a couple of minutes I jumped, floated, went to a weird island place while trying to project to Lofoten Islands in Norway (first place I thought of that I havent been but want to go), rolled down a grassy hill naked (first thing I thought of, er, to deepen the experience..haha), found my lovely partner, ate some food, and started to get rather intimate with said partner on a table full of food before I got pulled back into my body. 
:-D
Apologies it that is an overshare of information..

I just want to say thank you all so much!
I'd still be having paralysis terrors if it weren't for people around the world giving their time and letting people in similar situations know it's a relatively common phenomena, not to fear it, and where it can lead.
#8
I asked for assistance before going to sleep and this is what I got..

This morning's dream.. I was dimly conscious within it, but I can only describe it as a "How It Feels To Exit Your Body By Rolling Out" tutorial.

Exited at least twice after first time opening my "eyes" out of confusion, because within dream upon exiting all I saw was darkness. Was immediately "reset". Had help from unseen Guides within the dream, pushing me out.

Fun!

Have to say I woke up rather amused, and feel like giggling when I think about it.
Got a "but you already know how to do this.." feeling of gentle amusement from the Guides in the dream too.

:-D
#9
Being new and not really knowing you, I have not really anything to offer, except that I truly and sincerely hope that moment you have "given up" and "stopped trying" is the moment it all starts coming to you. All the knowledge and ability is within you, and I wish you amazing experiences and an extraordinary life.

I used to have natural conscious projections as a child, LOVED them, but the ability went away when I started to "grow up and be serious". 15 years or so later and after a lot of de-programming, the ability has partially come back to me without trying.

I wish you joy and success.
#10
I used to have experiences as a child where I knew (without thinking about how) that sometimes when I went to bed at night I could have awesome dreams that I understood, I think, weren't quite dreams. I would really look forward to them. Only realised in the last few years that they could well have been projections.

In the "dreams" I would follow a similar routine where I climb out of bed, out of my 2nd storey bedroom window, scale the wall around the corner onto the garage roof which was on an adjoining wall, and just jump off.
I would go bouncing and drifting all over my backyard, jumping off things. Sometimes I would go to my school, which was always empty, and do the same thing. It never occurred to me to try and go anywhere else because these places were the majority of my world, and I was never an outgoing kid. I remember particularly when visiting the school there was a greyish light illuminating the scenery. The jumping/drifting sensation is something I can remember today. Wasn't quite flying, but I would take a run and feel that I very much wanted to be floating, and end up doing fun slow motion running-jumps that went quite high, and then after a while touch down to earth and do it all over again.  :-D

I don't remember ever meeting anyone/anything else on these outings.

I remember looking out my bedroom window in waking life and trying to work out how it was possible because it was all so vivid.

These experiences would have stopped well before I was 10, but unsure when. I have accumulated too much fear and negative programming during the years that followed, and I think I was protected from consciously projecting (if that's what it was) during this time.
Don't remember paralysis, vibrations, faces appearing, hearing voices or anything like that at any part of the process.

Not a question, just an offering of an experience. I don't know if this forum's purpose is about posting exeriences so I have tried to refrain from doing so..
#11
Exciting, yes. :-D
Can't seem to get past the "Oh.. I'm not really awake.. I should be awake.." panic stage, cause even though I wish to develop it, I am not doing it on purpose.. Will try to relax and "roll out" next time..
#12
Wait.. Sorry Lionheart..  Didn't realise you meant actually physically blind and not as a metaphor. I was excitable and not paying attention to detail.
I'm not physically blind, I do however really struggle with visualisation based techniques. I think it could only help to try it.

I am glad someone has thought of this technique.. In the past I have figured that astral sight wouldn't correlate with physical and had wondered if anyone had developed a way to explore that. Thank you for answering that subconscious question. :-D
#13
Sounds like something for me then.  :)
#14
Hi CFTraveler,

That's a good idea.. Haven't explored techniques really, and as stated I did try to exit once and ended up upsidedown in blackness (from laying down to feet to the ceiling) because my head wouldn't let go.. in retrospect there was a vibrational stage to it too.
I somewhat instintively try to surround myself in Light when I get really confused.. Haven't heard of sponging before, I'm just checking it out now.
Thanks so much for your suggestion.  :-D
#15
Intriguing.. thank you for sharing your experiences.  :-)
I have very little of my own on this topic so it's good to see where others are going.
I would love to see the stars too. An ex of mine only ever lucid dreams, and about all sorts of things including space viewing, and I used to be rather jealous, but I think such things might be in the works for me too.

Again, thank you for sharing.
#16
Didn't realise I would get such a speedy response.
Thank you both! Very reassuring and helpful.  :-D

I've only just learned through this forum and an internet search today that "false awakening" is a fairly common occurence, and I don't really need to fear it. there are a lot of similarities between what I experience and the experiences other people have written about. Seems to be the precursor to an OBE/lucid dream. What a blessing. :-)

Seems I've got to keep myself calm and positive to keep the nasties away. I now believe one of the main issues is I have had no intent, no purpose, except perhaps the desire to snap out of it and wake up.
#17
Hi..
I'm sure people have posted many similar things before but I'm just having a bit of trouble and would appreciate some help and guidance from those more experienced.

For the last couple of months, with increasing regularity, I have been having involuntary (to an extent) experiences a little out of what I am used to. 
Only involuntary to an extent because I've been keenly interested astral plane/alternate dimensions/trance phenomena and even desired to experience it consciously and intentionally, and halfheartedly tried some techniques in the past. Now I seem to have it I don't really know what to do with it.
I also have no history of, experience with or knowledge of how to deal with lucid dreaming.
I do however have occasional experience with sensitivity to energy-lights (auric lights, vague spirit shadow or light forms, etc), some very strange and sometimes intuitive dreams, and some other spontaneous and erratic forms of sensitivity, so I'm not completely out of my depth here.

I wake up early in the morning when my partner goes to work. I don't get out of bed, and when he leaves I then usually go back to sleep. Often when I awaken again the second time I am aware that I am dreaming and I am "locked" in dream state.
It looks like reality, for the most part, but doesn't feel like it.
And there is often a strange light or "mood". Sometimes comfortable and light, as was the case this morning, sometimes not, as was probably the only really unpleasant experience I have had during a very stressful couple of days recently. I can discuss this negative experience later if anyone wishes to hear it.

So I know my body is paralysed, and the only way I can surface is by focusing on the thought of wiggling my feet until it happens in the physical and I snap out of the dream state. This is sometimes very difficult as it is hard to focus.
When I do awaken, there is a blurred transition where I can't tell at what point my eyes opened, and if I don't make a conscious effort to get up and move around physically straight away, I get "sucked back into" (that's kind of what it feels like) the dream-paralysis state. This also does not feel particularly pleasant and I think knowing this is coming is most of the reason why I panic.

This morning I moved my "arms" around. I could feel them moving, and even brushed my "hands" together, but could see that the motion was not being translated physically. This was I guess the point where I realised I was in an alternate state, and frequently when I awaken in this manner I have an instinctive mild panic and try to wiggle my feet like mad as soon as I can.
I don't feel any danger on most occasions, I feel mostly as if I am being challenged to let go of the physical and embrace this alternate state.
My main reason for posting is that I am having trouble "letting go" and getting past this.

The other day I tried to test leaving my body and I swear I turned upside down, feet toward the ceiling and my head stuck place in the pillow, but I could only feel this, there was no visual.
Only one occasion where I have briefly left and that is because my mind tricked me into thinking I had actually got out of bed to see where my partner was. I was in the same house as I had fallen asleep in, and yet obviously not in the same house. So I snapped out of it and straight into another trick of thinking I was awake. Best I can explain the feeling is like there is a limitless Rolodex of alternate universes my mind was prepared to slide me into before I forced myself out of it and woke up.

I don't think I have covered the depth of the experiences, but I do want to keep this fairly short.

I think I've figured out it happens when these factors are in place:
I have woken properly and then gone back to sleep
I get overheated
I have slept a full night and am no longer in need of rest.

Er.. any suggestions, tips, thoughts? I look forward to hearing what anyone has to say.

Thank you for reading!  :-D