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I have had few OBEs, I had orientation problems when I had them, I did not see my body in the reentry!! I am sure that will develop with practice or can be there with people naturally. But I am sure its no criteria that if you don't see your body you are not projecting.

Lets understand this!! and please correct me if I am wrong, Astral world is at a slightly higher frequency than physical and I think its quite possible to not see your physical self and reenter....thoughts people!!

Ah!! I don't understand this!! I have not read the book in question, but the entire Idea of holding gas is not appealing....on the other hand I think

The process may help one raise their concentration levels and apply extreme concentration to the specific centers!! do you thinks that can be a possibility!

Well I agree to Leo about Sanskrit Yoga being better off, not because I am an Indian but because I believe its been there for much long, most of the things are backed up by systematic research and yes a lot of great saints have demonstrated and ratified the system.

But I would also like say that there can be many ways (systems) to reach the goal, so the one that book refers to may be something unique which helped a certain group of people achieve results...!!

Sumeet

Very Interesting discussion!

In my personal view I agree with boydster when he says "religion and Spirituality" are two different things! my perspective is Religion is a more generalized method leading to the same goal as spirituality does. Spirituality on the other hand is more direct and and picked up naturally by people who have evolved better in the karmic cycle. So the goal is the same the routes are different and depending on ones development in the entire cycle and karmas we choose a path!

Sumeet

Hello All

I have had few OBE (or thats what i think) and now I can regularly get to the vibrations state but lose it then.

I have been reading about astral projection from long back, but never had an OBE kind of experience, then about a year back one night I woke up to vibrations , these incidents kept on happening and I began to realize that this must be the natural OBE that happens during sleep, its just that I am becoming aware in between.

During the first few incidents I had vibrations then an ooosh kind of dull sound and a feeling of expansion. My vision during these sessions were very poor and i had major problem orientating (still have). Then the sessions stopped.

Now whenever I want I can get those vibrations by thinking about them when I wake up early in the morning, it goes like this...
I wake up early in the morning, then slowly drift back to sleep...suddenly will become aware of the vibrations from top to bottom, very strong one, I think at this point I become too excited (that I am having an OBE) I immediately want to start looking around but that doesn't happen, at times I have just left myself but some how I get fear and excitement and loose the vibrations.

I have this strange feeling of fear when this happens, I am afraid of the night when I wake up like this....I do not understand this compeletly...

Can someone help point me to things I should be doing and not doing and when....anything

I do not understand this process completely but I want to ....

Regards

Sumeet

Hi Tayesin

I quite could not understand the following lines..

Usually you will return to the points where you need to remember. You will have emotional responses to some of it, even if it is only a recognition.

I also went through your website and read your OB experiences, quit interesting I must say.
I have been trying OB from some time, I easily get to the vibrations state when I wake up Early in the morning and try OB, but somehow I think there is some kind of fear thats preventing me to do it completely, I have had experience sometime but very short and i have been very disorientated in them. Last time i had vibrations and i told myself I am not going to be excited and loose this and suddenly i felt breathing was getting a little difficult...i don't know...maybe my problem is I get excited...dont know...need to work on this...

You could ask the hypnotherapist to have you view from the 3rd person perspective, if you feel intuitively that there may be something you don't wish to Feel as yet. Once you see and recognize whatever it is you are there to see, you can be 'moved' into the 1st person aspect in order to feel it for yourself... if you want to.

You will be aware of the hypnotherapist and will be conscious so that you can speak to them as well. There really is no great need to suggest you not remember something... as it's the memories that you are after

This is great, I think this clears up lot of doubts in my mind.

Please do send me the description of the Christos method on my email id sumeet_parashar@yahoo.com



Regards

Sumeet

Hello Tayesin

Thank you for your words of wisdom. I think they will not only help me but other who look for guidance.

It will be great if you can share with us more about the "Christos " method.

The regression therapist I have found is sounded experienced.
In fact I asked him if he in his experience know any negative effects of using hypnosis for past life regression. He told me that he has not observed any such negative effects. He also told that sometimes during regression people experience trauma of past life and that can create distress, but I think before they take you out of hypnosis they "suggest" that the person do not remember the "trauma" memory. I am not sure how good or bad this is!!

After going through your response I will ask him to restrain using "suggestion" as much as possible.

Please let me know you opinion/vies on this.

Regards

Sumeet

Hello All

I am not sure if this is right forum for this...but anyway I think people here will be helpful...thanks folks!!

I plan to take up a regression session (hypnosis based) to explore/experience my past lives. The objective plain and simple to understand my past lives so I can understand the self better and the purpose of this life.

I invite your views as to any negative impacts you think this may have, have some people been through this? if yes how their experience has been?? anything specific someone will like to say point out...

Thanks in advance

Sumeet