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With the current state of the world... All is good... No need to prep anything.

The government has our best interests at heart and will provide all that is needed. No need to prep.

  :-D

Plasma,

I would have to agree.
I am not proud of it (LOL... maybe I am ), but I would say, that a good dose of a psychedelic will dissolve the veil between here and their, right quick.
I still practice a daily routine, in some way, shape, or form without but..... every once and a while   

But hey, sometimes the psychedelics will tech you something. 

We can't talk about spirituality without also talking about psychedelics. Nature's natural guild back to the spiritual. In fact psychedelics are IMO the link between the atheistic, and agnostic type thinking into the spiritual. During the hippy movement many people that didn't think anything of the spiritual suddenly found themselves contemplating meditation, astral projection and other spiritual practices from the east due to their psychedelic use. Unfortunately the movement mostly died due the drug war and stigmatization. But IMO we will one day find our way back to the spiritual through psychedelics.

And I am betting that seasteading will be the driving force for this change throughout the world. www.seasteading.org Which oddly enough seasteading was started, not to spread to use of psychedelics, but rather to evolve government, and treat government as a technology, and not a bureaucratic system that can hardly change with science and the times.

www.shroomery.org/forums/
www.bluelight.org/vb/forums
http://www.hipforums.com/forum/forum/50-psychedelics/
https://drugs-forum.com/forum
https://www.erowid.org
http://www.agoradrugs.com/agora-marketplace-url/#
www.seasteading.org

One more note on seasteading. It will change the world from the inside out. It will cause governments to compete to keep their citizens least they leave and go to a government of their choice. The first seastead will be built in 2020, but once they have a proof of concept to show the world that this works, then they will no doubt gain widespread acceptance, and many new types of government seasteads will be built to compete for citizens from around the world. Why mention seateading here. We'll since their is nothing more spiritual practically speaking than advancing society on the fundamental level. 

I could get into how LENR, or Cold Fusion will also fundamentally change society for the better, but I will leave that for another day unless you want to know more.

WOW... That sounds like one heck of an experience.

I don't know how you let it go, and just move on with life for another 30+ years.

I had a very minor experience (compared to this one), and I was so fascinated by it, that to this day, I am still trying to do more than remember my dreams and have a full blown NPE.

Thank you for sharing.

IMHO......

(Most) Everything is OK in moderation.
But I think that "You"/"I"/"We", are all having this human experience; to not be "in the moment" when we are here (in the physical), is doing this experience a disservice.

Great Read!!

This is an awesome way to look at it; make it almost, as if some walls are removes as no matter what you had a non-physical experience.

your time is greatly appreciated. TY.

I am late but I am here!

I recently made a huge life change and moved my family high up in the mountains off grid, right on a very beautiful lake.

I have been working on this for a couple years with some success.

My life style now affords me ample time to focus on my self and my family.

I will be partaking but will be catching up behind you guys!

SCHMUSTIN,

Did you buy audio or paperback?  Just curious!  I try to buy what I can in this subject on audio but unfortunately not everything is available.  There are lots of great books/authors out there but when I can't find them in audio I buy them in paperback.  I have quite the collection in both formats now.  I love the audio because I can listen while doing something else at the same time.

I purchased paperback... I am a fan of holding a book in my hands and using my eyes wherever possible. I do have audio versions of some as i agree there are times like long drives where reading can be dangerous.

I should look at getting audio versions of some others I have tho!

Here are a few recommendations for audio books:

Adventures in the Afterlife - William Buhlman
How to Have an Out of Body Experience - William Buhlman

Lucid Dreaming: Gateway to the Inner Self - Robert Waggoner

Lucid Dreaming Made Easy: A Beginner's Guide to Waking Up in Your Dreams - Charlie Morley

A Field Guide to Lucid Dreaming: Mastering the Art of Oneironautics- Dylan Tuccillo, Jared Zeizel, Thomas Peisel

Dream Gates - Robert Moss

Reality Unveiled: The Hidden Keys of Existence That Will Transform Your Life (and the World) - Zaid Masri

T-man.... LOL, Just purchased the two books off amazon by William Buhlman... Thank you for the recommendation.

Well when I say require I mean push them to practice astral projecting. I wouldn't force them to do it if they really didn't want to do it.

I agree.... My children practice this (one more so than the other) and we talk about it all the time and I try and take the information I learn on this form and try and get them to interact more and show them, the best I can at this point.

My boy is really into this. He is nine now and was always telling me about people showing up in his dreams and i finally got him looking at them as guides to help him and when they show up to interact and not just be afraid or ignore them. But to engage and ask question that he may have or to ask for help with one thing or another.

Nameless,

My deepest condolences to you and your loved ones.
It is hard loosing a close loved one and at time seems hard to stay your path, as it may seem unfair and wrong. But just know, you are a strong person, and I can tell that from your posts over the last few years.

He is watching, he is listening and he is here to guide/help you. Watch for the signs and you will know. I know, i know... I am preaching to the choir LOL!

Have you found a Dime ($0.10 Coin) yet? After my mother passed a year ago, I tend to find them in really strange places in my experience.
I believe the dime represents your angels telling you you are on the right path and keep going.

Maybe your husband will find a different way to communicate. Just be open.

I am sending loving thoughts your way! All the best to you and your family in this experience.

Stay Strong, Stay The Path, Have Faith.... You will be OK!

I desperately need to project as part of a spiritual healing process I'm going through, and using EEG to induce it seems like it would be the only thing that would work for me.

As you state above...."and using EEG to induce it seems like it would be the only thing that would work for me."



You are 100% correct. This "IS" the only thing that will work for you! But Only because you believe/think it.
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But ONLY because YOU "THINK" that!!! And because YOU "think" that nothing ells will work.



Forget Who I am Quoting here:
"Weather YOU think you CAN, or YOU think you CAN'T... You are ALWAYS RIGHT!!!! Its YOUR thinking, that makes it so!

Thoughts are power.... Thoughts are EVERYTHING!

My thoughts go out to you and your family.

Wishing you all the hope and strength you need to persevere through your current experience.

Serenity Prayer:

Higher-Self (God), Grant me the "serenity" to accept the things I cannot change, the "courage" to change the things I can... And the "Wisdom" to know the difference.

Welcome..... Looking forward to hearing about your adventures!!!   

I think the point though is that it be a GENUINE break... and look at it from that perspective.
Don't do it from the perspective of "ok, I'll take a break and when I get back I *WILL* project!"...

See the difference in intent there?  I think that intent which gives a relaxing sense of no pressure on the first one compared to the intent of adding extra pressure of now worrying about what if it doesn't work?
Two different concepts. 

What I mean is don't use a break as a technique in itself.

I get what you are saying their.

My "breaks" are not planned my me....Its almost like the break is unintentional and you quit focusing on the subject. then one days it s like... "Hey, i having done this in a while lets give it a GO!"

A short break is definitely reported as a positive thing towards projecting.
When the break is ended, it can trigger a flood of experiences. 

This was seemingly true for you. 

I would agree my friend! It was a great experience.

I would recommend a short break to any one that seems to not be experiencing any growth.

Hey everyone,

I ended up taking a 3 week break and not putting much attention to Astral Projection.

Started practicing again at the start of the week and have had some pretty good sessions.
Full of vivid colors and a couple "Movie Type" scenes. Lots of movement in the arms and a little in the legs.

I use "short breaks" with guitar and take some time off and find that when I come back to it I am farther along or a concept is easier to grasp/learn.
Also I tried something different as well. I usually crawl under the covers or a blanket... just cause I find it more comfortable. One night the wife suggested I try it laying on top of the covers or without a blanket. I thought about it for a while and realized I usually keep that part the same every time. So i gave it a shot....

Turns out it worked pretty well. Within a few minutes I was loosing feeling in my lower body and visuals were starting to come on.

Anyways just an update..... Thanks for reading.

Thanks for the reply's.

I am starting to think I am possible over thinking this process or creating some sort of block for my self...

I think i am trying to control the process to much? I will try just going with he flow. See how it goes!

Hey Guys & Galls,

I was just reading over a thread I have read a few times before.
I do this a bit as I find that I have grown between the time I read it once and then for the second, third or forth time. I usually pick up something new each time I read it.

So as I was re-reading another post, I noticed that the OP had noted that, he/she has conversations with himself and he/she was not sure how to stop that from happening.
And it was happening while laying down to project.

In the reply's everyone was pretty well telling the OP that this is normal and to have the conversation and at some point the conversation would take on a life of its own and this was another way to experience the NP and possible have a OBE.

I noticed this this time, but not last time. So, I wanted a little more incite into this and how to go about it cause I find that I can be laying there counting or doing some technique and I will notice that out of nowhere I am talking to myself.

I usually end the conversation right there and proceed with whatever I was doing.... Usually I count.

My thought was you wanted to keep your mind just active enough to keep the awareness.
Would a conversation not be to stimulating to shift focus enough to have an OBE? Or do people also use this method to achieve an OBE?

Thinking I should have let those conversation go....... 

Is it possible to do something so wrong against your own self or God or higher being or all of them or whatever that you will be disowned on some level by some higher source?
Matthew 12:32
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

I tend to think that this scripture has to do with a higher being(s) helping someone throughout their whole life or family throughout their whole life only to have the most important lesson not only rejected but to cause more suffering to others. Not only that but there was an agreement made before their incarnation that they would overcome because of the help of higher beings, then it all just gets destroyed. What do yous think of this?

This is a good  question.
I am not religions and I don't truly believe there is a "God" a "Creator Of All"... So to speak. But believe there is a higher power and it is consciousness.
I do believe there is a greater force/power that we are all part of, that we are all... consciousness.

For what you are questioning, there would have to be a right and a wrong, correct?

If we are all operating on this physical training ground. As I believe this physical reality is only a training ground for the after life.
When you look at right and wrong in the end its all based on your experiences here on earth. What is right in my point of view, might be wrong in your views.... So what is right and wrong? Of course there are certain thing most people can agree on... Murder, rape, molestation, harassment... stuff like that = WRONG and me/most do NOT agree with one bit.

I think part of the issue is society is told what is right, wrong, acceptable, unacceptable. Which in turn throws a box around everyone and limits us... unknowingly. 

I believe that if you truly THINK and BELIEVE, as you ask.... "do something so wrong against your own self or God or higher being or all of them or whatever that you will be disowned on some level by some higher source?"

Then YES, YES, and YES!!! You are correct. It is YOUR thinking that makes it so.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with thinking and believing that.

So For my answer:
I don't believe this one bit. I am sure if you are a negative person and dwell on hate, anger, rage, ego.... You will have the same experiences after death.
I believe it is also true for the opposite.
I am crating my after life every day I wake up. No one ells is creating it for me. No person or book can tell me what my experiences will be like on this physical plane or beyond.

Just my $0.02 look forward to following this and this type of conversation fascinates me.
I love seeing how others resonate with questions like these!

Thank for posting!!

HA HA HA... of course right... Site goes down and you project!!

And in my case site went done and I still have yet to have a 100% full separation from my physical body!

Glad to hear you made it to, Congratulations! 

Sorry I could not be of more help. Hopefully a more experienced member can chime in for you!

Im assuming this is a joke right? Good one! 🤣🤣🤣

I was wondering this my self.

Interesting thought tho......!!

Did you find the recording on line or is it one you created yourself?

Would be interested to give it a go.

Congratulations. Hungry and thirsty, I imagine your body used a lot of energy getting to that point and likely you did have a brief experience that lasted much longer 'out there' than you recall bc here the timing was so short. It's all good.

So there was something to the whole being thirsty and hungry?

I included it in the post and I'm not sure why now that I think of it but.... everything happens for a reason.

This has happened to me, and I've even heard things getting blown around the room. No fear, surrender completely to the moment, and it's all good.

I agree... the fear is what ended it....

But hey I am excited just to see progress as I seem to be stuck for the few weeks before that.

Nameless,

I would say you are an extremely strong individual.

Keep a positive outlook on everything. Even when events that happens in your life might seem "bad" at the time. Trust and truly believe that everything happens for a reason, and that the situation is going to work out in the end.

Something I do, when I have an experience in life that I automatically look and and say... "Oooo that's not good" OR "Really, that sux!" I try and catch it as quick as possible and re-look at the situations and say... "Its forming".
I'm not sure what "IT" is but I know and truly believe its a good thing and the universe is placing exactly what I need into my existence on this physical plane.

Maybe this is going to show you something... You may be right.... This might show you that you don't need the pills it also might show you that you still need the pills but not in the capacity you need them now. Who really knows, right?

Weather you think you do, or you think you don't. Either way you are "ALWAYS" right!! It is "YOUR" thinking that make it so!

I hope all works out for you and your family... Thank you for sharing and hopefully you are able to keep us updated.