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Since your able to OBE, why don't you ask your spirit guide to show you the truth, rather than a false belief. What ever that maybe, thats what I would do. Once you are able to project consciously, you or your guide should be able to break through all the BS, and get the the real truth right? Or try to contact your higher self, as it is the one who knows all.

And why I should believe him then? How to objectively tell the difference between honesty and manipulation, and why assume that even the guide knows the truth? I noticed that those guides mostly give information that cannot be verified in any way, and basing my judgement on such informations would mean opening myself to manipulation. In my opinon it's better to think for yourself than believe in any dogma because of authority, without questioning it.

CaCoDeMoN, can you answer my previous questions please? Regardless of whether you think it is bad or not a good choice to activate it using those method. I will still proceed, as I do not want fear to hinder me from my progress. Astral projection can also rival this experience you are having, and probably in a more real way.

I hope someone else will answer your question, because I do not want to be more responsible for this than I already am.

So telling others that it is dangerous and that they shouldn't practice it, would only intrigue/excite folks like myself. Isn't the point of this forum is to help each other? You see your fear of someone opening it and not being able to handle it, is actually counter productive. Why would you post in the first place, and not share what you experience?

This is not about being able to control anything, this is about inviting something hostile into your energy(?) body. This meditation is modified(mainly the chants) in the way intended to do exactly this. I posted it because at time I did not know what it really is, and ONLY because of this.

I was wondering if your able to talk to the negs and your spirit guide? Are you able to touch them since now your perception has been expanded. Is energy work a lot easier and more intense? Are you able to read from the Akasic record (correct me if I'm wrong). Are you able to see back and forth into time? Dead relatives, and multiple possible future? Not sure if this was answered already, but, can you turn it on and off, like a light switch?

I nearly completely stopped doing all energy work and trance meditation.  The most important meditation for me now is Vipassana-like meditation and it does not have anything to do with all such abilities. The meditation this topic is about is really not worth trying, it seems to give fast results at the beginning, but later the harm it has done becomes clearly visible. It can give you only neg attachements and mental problems and certainly no real progress.
I've seen negs frequently during OOBE/meditation but I never talked with them. My brother did so. Once during an OOBE I had fascinating conversation with someone that looked EXACTLY like me, and the funny thing is that in some way I knew that it's me. Maybe this can be called spirit guide or higher self, I have no idea.

God and Devil
It seems there is alot of folks being afraid of the devil/satan/lucifer etc. From what I read, there is no actual ONE creator, nor is there a devil. Its all been created by false info + fear + imagination = manifestation. Thoughts are things, so if 2 billion people on earth believe their is a God etc, then it undoubtably will be  one when they pass to the other side, either naturally or un-naturally.  Think about it for a second guys and gals, if you were an infinite being (which you are), how would some evil group , be able to contain/control you (us)? Its very simple, with the mention above formula. We are all God, we are our own creator of all the negatives and positives in our lives. And Jesus Christ, according to Seth, a highly develope being, was an advance psychic (speaker as he calls it). And so is all the other highly respected figure such as Budha, Moses etc.  For more detail, I recommend all to read the book called "Seth Speaks," by Jane Roberts.

But how to tell a difference if the content of the book is true or not? And there's infinite variety of methaphysical models that frequently contradict each other. If we do not even understand things so basic like the gravity, how can anyone be sure about things like God, afterlife, etc. ? I have no idea if there's one creator or not, nor do I have any methods of experimentally verifying it. What I know is that I prayed to God for help many times and I recieved it. My brother also prayed many times and he says it gave no results. Sometimes it seems that some invisible force is helping me in my life, but it clearly wants to remain in the background.
The idea that Devil/Satan is  a thoughtform seems plausible, but the idea that typical Christian/Muslim/Jewish understanding of a God is also thoughtform. The other thing is that one word frequently is a label for many things, and for example God or Satan can be understood both literally as an entity or as an laber for some kind of metaphysic force acting in the universe, and there are many other meanings. I certainly can't agree on "creating your own reality stuff". Of course it is true that we can change the way we percieve the situation, and this can drastically change emotions created by the situation. We take part in the creation of reality by our actions, and indirectly by our thoughts(maybe directly too, but it's not certain to what extent). But there are many things independent of us and this cannot be denied.

PS Caco u may wish to buy the book since it's so good

You're right, if not the shipping costs I certainly would(it's only 11$ on amazon.com). Right now I can't buy it, because of one thing I promised.

What exactly did you figure out too late? Exactly what happened?

Does it have a relation to sex?

No. I think it's more of an "energy link", a very harmful one.

That's great Smiley

Is it a large file?

680kb

Hi, how are things? You probably forgot who I am. Anyway, hope things are fine on your side Smiley

Karuna (Compassion)

Just excellent . I had serious problems with depression for the most part of my life, and that was why I was looking into the metaphysics.Few months ago I found  an excellent book from which I learned how to deal with my problems and now I can honestly say that I am happy with my life. The name of the book is "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle, and in my opinion it's really worth reading. I have an electronic version of it, if anyone's interested.

Can you tell us more about it, Daem0n? I think that you are right(but I figured it out too late), and I'd really like to know more about this "contamination".(what kind of problems you had, how did you deal with it, etc.). If you don't want to talk about it in the forums then please PM me.

There are other free e-books lon brain, mind and subtle energies on this website also. (www.awgp.org-- literaute -- books/articles in Englsih..
You may like them also..

I've noticed this. And I'll start reading when I have some free time

Excellent book, thanks! I don't agree with some of the author's points but I think that his explanation of karmic mechanisms is probably very close to truth.

Also, Cacodemon, you said that you enjoyed watching the wittle cutesy negs (I believe everything has some good in them, even the evil people who break your lawn gnomes) running on your wall. Could this meditation have brought those negs into your house? Just wondering.

No. Negs were attracted by hate and emotional pain, as nearly always.

I can convert it, but you will need to wait a few days so I can upload it(I'll have access to 100 Mbit internet connection then).

In my opinion priest will not solve this problem.

at the computer which was making sounds as in two people having a conversation but we were unable to make out the conversation.

This is a very common problem with active speakers. Such kind of speakers contain built in simple amplifier, and when the computer is turned off and the speakers are still on, the speakers start acting like a radio receiver for some reason.

Channeling information is DANGEROUS, don't do it or believe in it. The information appeals so easily to our intellect, and that is what they play on.

Most channelings just pretend to have some "spiritual" meaning. I don't think that they are even really channelled, more probably just generated by person's subconsciousness or even only called "channeling". It is impossible that some more spiritually developed entities would waste their time creating so much meaningless messages. Excellent example of such BS generator is here:
http://www.thoth.info/

The easiest and very effective method is to go as deep into the trance state as you can and then repeat an affirmation in your mind(as long as you will hold trance state), for an example "my family is and will always be perfectly safe". Be careful how you will formulate the affirmations. They should not contain negations, because the are not always interpreted correctly by subconsciousness. Do this exercise everyday and avoid thinking anything about it after doing it.

1 cm to an inch why?

With that distance the heat of the hand can cause psi wheel movements. I think that a good method is putting psi wheel inside a glass jar. This will prevent the differences of temperature from affecting psi-wheel.

CaCoDeMoN have you yourself summoned a Demon? Which Demon in particular if so

Bune and Vapula.

says who?

Everyone with basic understanding of physics?

I don't believe that part about bible.

what was the distance between your body and the psi-wheel?

Hi!
If you want to have evidence that energy work is real, then ask people like GOTHIKA on this forum and other psi-vamps to drain all of your energy(not less than ten at once to eliminate the possibility of asking a fake psi vamp). Of course if you have enough balls to do it...

How did you summon Vassago? As in which method did you use
The Goetia method in my opinion is disrespectful

For me meditating on demon's sigil is enough to summon it sometimes. Maybe it'll work with Vassago too?

I agree I think because its not like your in a vacume where you would continue to accelerate but there would be equel forces acting apon you on all sides as before so without an aditional force you should remain at a constant speed..

No, with the centrifugal force the final acceleration vector would be directed upwards.

however if the earth is falling through space and you have no gravity then there is no reason to expect the air alone to keep you close to the planet?

Earth is not falling through space. It could be easily detected with very simple experiment. If the Earth would be falling through space, there would be difference of weight of the same item in different places on Earth.

Hell, even when his armies came to the eastern front the slavs welcomed them as liberators.

This is simply a lie. Germans were always regarded as enemies after first world war. People remembered the terror of first German occupation.

cacodemon,

You body would slow down due to the fact that there is noting propelling it foward. When you were in contact witht he earth you were traveling the samespeed as it. When you become suspended above the surface then you will go the same speed for a bit and start to slow down due to the fact that nothings making your body go. So theoreticaly, eventually you would stop and you could watch the earth turn. Keep in mind, we are talking about a gravity free situation here.

You are wrong. If a thing is in motion and no forces work on it, then the speed is constant. It's one of Newton's laws of physics. Without the gravity there would be only those forces working on a body:
-force of friction with air(air is moving with the same speed as Earth)
-centrifugal force - nearly directly up
-wind
-pressure of light(not important here)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_laws_of_motion

My father is a policeman and has received death threats against him. I don't want to go into the whole thing too much but I am very concerned for him and my family.

So this is a very serious thing. I know a good magickal technique that could help, but the ability to enter the trance state is needed. Do you have any experience with trance meditation?

if the earth was spinning at hundreds of miles an hour and for you suddenly gravity was not an issue then you yourself should only gain speed causing you to zoom forwards into a wall. would you say this was true? Just wondered

No. The vector of acceleration would be nearly directly upwards, looking from earth's perspective.

Well if what youre asking is that if the world was spinning fast enough for us to notice and gravity turned off and i was up in the air would somthing run into me. eventually yes. not right away cause my body would be traveling the same speed as the earth for a bit. then my body would slow down and as the earth kept turning i would get hit by a wall or a tree. So yes to your initial question.

Why it would slow down?