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Rife machines use a harmonic combination of sound waves and radio waves to stimulate pathogenic microbes into mortal oscillatory rate. To think of it simply it is like an opera singer with both an audible and high inaudible range that work together to shatter little wine glasses hiding out in our cells.

This technology originally came from Tesla, but was rediscovered by Royal Rife, Professors at Albert Einstein, and Physicist Bob Beck in various implementations. All of their techniques are known to be capable of eradicating fungal, viral, bacterial and parasitic organisms in the body.

The most advanced publicly available Rife machine available today is widely believed to be the GB4000 because it can run 8 frequencies at once, has a superior range, more power and supports emitting the frequencies in a short range via an original 1930's style plasma tube  with noble gases inside.

While this technology is powerful, direct and effective, it is not as sophisticated as other healing technologies that have been discovered recently. It just zaps bugs really well - alternative and credible experts believe bugs are the root cause of cancer and many other conditions.

Noble Prize winner, Luc Montagnier discovered that DNA reads and transmits frequencies. Most people reading this will intuitively know that is true. It is now possible to use advanced sacred geometry style mathematics and computer simulation to form extraordinarily sophisticated harmonic signals. They replicate the vibes emitted by the Great Pyramid, or the Sun for instance.

Furthermore, combining high fidelity valve amplifiers such as a serious audiophile would use, and advanced new age emitters, which use magnets and gems, it is possible to generate electro-magnetic fields containing DNA upgrade and cellular alignment instructions. There are various ways this is measurable such as flash freezing water under the influence of the Sound of the Sun to reveal sacred geometry. This can be thought of simply as quantum healing but seriously powerful to the point of being measurable with magnets. The most advanced machine of this kind is the Light Stream Wand.

The expense of both machines is comparable and the testimonials for both products are matrix shattering if they are genuine.

My instinct says that the Tesla based technology is a more powerful instant cure to illness. If I had a machine like that and could verify it worked, I would like to use it to help people in the spiritual community. Since these machines are naively dismissed as quackery, no licenses are required.

On the other hand, the quantum healing device is simply far more sophisticated, it may as well be Alien technology by comparison. Not only is it meant to be capable of miracle healing, but it can also improve all round well being and even promote ascension. A machine like this could be even more invaluable in helping those in the spiritual community.

Essentially either device is a leap of faith I am prepared to make after many hours of research. The quantum device fits the expanded model of my understanding of reality, in a forward thinking way and that it is better. What does your intuition say?

My fiance has breast cancer. I have never been a big believer in energy healing, but I've known about this section, so here we are.

The condition is a 28 year old female, high grade cancer. Stage is unknown. It is likely a hormone responsive cancer.

Suspected root causes: Birth control implant used for nearly 10 years with the chemical levonorgestrel. It has been shown in studies to have an unexpected high number occurrence of breast cancer in Poland. Causes hormone imbalance and messes up natural processes of clearing breast tissue when pregnancies do not occur each month.

Gross deficiency in vitamin C stores. I have learned that daily recommended doses are based on preventing scurvy in 90% of the population. That leaves you just above deathly deficiency, not near effective plasma saturation levels. It took her 2 weeks to recover from a cold that I recovered from in 1 day, suggesting impaired immunity.

Gross deficiency in vitamin D blood levels. Our pills come in a maximum dose of 1000 IU without prescription. It is suggested by many experts that more like 50,000 IU per week is required to get blood up to the 120 nmol/L healthy levels of the Mediterranean population. Average blood levels for New Zealand is more like 16 nmol/L.

Cell membranes have low levels of electrons due to the consumption of low quality and or processed oils. Without these electrons oxygen cannot be attracted into the cell and it must mutate to survive on glucose via fermentation. This ties into sunlight resonance with electrons in the cell and bad voltages induced in our bodies by radio signals in the city.

Lots of us are talking about it. It has been predicted to happen, some say it already has happened. This idea is a global mindset shift, a domino effect triggered by a particular event. We are talking about a radical change unlike anything in our recorded history. We might gain highly psychic powers and the ability to more freely manipulate reality. Earth could move to the "5th dimension" as we are to believe other cultures have before us.

Is any of this real? Some people claim to already have moved over to 5d. What might the event be, how would it work? Start your speculation engines 

I recently heard of a hypnotist who used a subject from the audience to do something "impossible". The setup involved convincing the subject that his daughter was not in the room. We are to believe that the subject was not capable of perceiving his daughters presence in the room. The hypnotist then has the subject read inscriptions off their watch - through the body of the daughter whom they cannot see.

The idea is that with sufficient convincing of a certain fact our minds will decode information that isn't part of our physical senses and incorporate that into a consistent world view experience.

Anyone ever heard of or seen this applied?

Can we explain how it might work conceptually?

Can anyone do it? What is your "fastest" projection and how did you do it? What is the primary mechanic that limits our ability to project quickly?

My fastest projection was by the wake and back to bed method. It was close enough to instant that I was unaware of any time passing between laying down and experiencing the exit. My hypothesis is that the primary limiting mechanic is rate of brain wave change, and that is why "priming" works in general.

Yesterday I read the repost of Tisha's essay and was interested in the section on willpower. I always wondered why some people I know in real life that meditate for long periods never have OBEs or even signposts.

In the past I have absorbed material, possibly from Tom Campbell, suggesting that we are banned from the astral by default and require a good reason to have that lifted.

I have come to believe, perhaps in a sense my mind is poisoned, to think that my reasons for pursuing astral projection aren't good enough to make the cut.

This undermines my willpower and I feel like it is a belief trap. What do you think, friends?

This first post will describe the challenge:

We will call this practice "Paddle to the Sea". The premise and reason it made me feel old is that I had watched this short film in School as a young lad. I don't remember much of my past, so I was shocked that the "Paddle to Sea" theme would come up to me. Here's a short quip on that film. https://www.nfb.ca/film/paddle_to_the_sea/
I don't want you to go watch the film though. That would cause you to have prior expectations.
Now to the exercise. The duration of the exercise for now is one week. Every day you will do a sit down for at least 30 minute session and on top of that, whenever you find a spar moment during the day, I want you to take a few seconds/minutes to do some quick "searching". Periodically that is.

The exercise starts with your closed eyes. You will do what ever it takes to get relaxed first, then just put in about 10 minutes of "noticing" in he darkness before your eyes.
When you feel "depth" approaching, I want you to mentally walk down that road ahead of you until you get to that bridge. Don't look for the road, just know it's there. This is where you will either get a quick visual or feel your first "etheric" movement. When you get to the bridge ahead, reach down and release that toy boat beside you into the flowing water. The boat can be a replica Canoe, Sailboat, Ocean-liner, Battleship, it doesn't matter right now. Don't choose the "Titanic/Poseidon" or any other failed ship, lol.  Watch it take off.

Now you are going to just observe. Visually/mentally follow it wherever it goes. Don't lead it. I won't give you any examples or ideas of destination because once again, that would cause "expectations". Stay with it. When it fades, bring it back. If you can't see it, feel it or hear it's path or smell the air around it, feel the motion of it. Stay at least 20 feet behind it though. You are pure conscious energy at this point, so you can go anywhere it can and more. It's kind of like a "pace car" scenario where you start feeling the bends and curves of the path ahead.

If at any time something else starts to happen, a new morphed scene, allow that new focus to take over and lock on to that new target.

Whenever you get a chance during the day, "briefly" close your eyes and see what your ship/vessel is doing. Do it often. This entire practice is all about "repetition" and "entrainment". It can be like a new version of "Where's Waldo", lol. You don't need to put time into these little peeks.

The next day when you go to do your 30 minute session, you don't need to start from the beginning of the scenario again. Get relaxed, in the zone, then see if you can see where your ship is and what it's doing. Follow it for awhile, through whatever environment you find it in. Be aware of your other senses as well. When it fades, bring it back.

I guarantee you "something" will happen. Don't stop doing it until the entire week is done. It doesn't matter how bad your ability to visualize or sense in the NP is. You will have a "experience".

When I began at this forum I would very often face issues of lust in dreams. I might experience impulses to have sex with incidental characters in the dream. I may take conscious awareness of the scenario and seek out these kinds of experiences. Like many of the aspects I witnessed in the dreams my core being has taken dramatic shifts in behavior and intent. I feel good about this, but with the new perspective comes new issues to handle.

Increasingly, and in particular with abstinence from pornography, I find women seeking me out in dreams with a total role reversal. It probably sounds great, but for one reason or another I find myself denying the experiences these dreams are delivering. Perhaps the compass of my core being has swung too far. A definite part of the mechanic I have identified is a sense of guilt that relates to my physical reality partner and my commitment to her, even though we have agreed that non-physical encounters do not constitute a transgression on our relationship here. Furthermore I believe that monogamous relationships are really a foundation of low spiritual quality anyway, such as jealousy, and have little place in true unconditional love.

As these issues seem to do, I have noticed this compass problem is presenting itself in physical reality. The natural inclination to back away from other females causes a slight, but undeniable, knee jerk reaction. I have sensed that in some cases this reaction can cause suffering for the other party, which clearly goes against Buddhist philosophies.

I _think_ that the dreams are telling me to allow the balance between these extremes to be found and let the situations unfold without guilt. It is hard to be sure. What do you think?

10/8/17

In the dream I had agreed to meet my partner at the ocean for a swim each evening. There was a Warf with a conjoined building that had its base in the water. The water was pretty rough but I went for a swim anyway and dove underwater around the base of the building. Underneath the building I saw something that looked like a dead body. I did a few more dives since it was around 5 meters deep, and confirmed that there was a dead youth down there. I think it was the body of a girl, maybe around 12 years old. I wasn't afraid but the entire scenario including the atmosphere of the waves and water was dark and malicious.

I transitioned into another area on the beach where a group of people I knew from school were hanging out. One bully that often appears in my dreams as a kind of fear test was present but I felt no fear or animosity this time. We spoke about the dead girl and he said he had seen her too.

Here is a polarizing topic to enjoy. Many advocate veganism for example as a way of life for conducting minimum damage, but is it really correct or some kind of feel-good moral high ground stance? On the other side of the fence you see those that follow the hunt to eat protocol and deeply feel themselves as part of nature and respecting the animals.

I saw a documentary on Wakanui beef farmers. The farmer they focused on really professed to love his cows and in turn they seemed to live a relatively happy and stress free life.

The farmer, the cows, the land, the people that eat them all form symbiosis. Some say symbiosis is one of the highest vibration configurations for life. It makes me wonder what would happen to that land if we no longer ran cattle. It is ironic to think that veganism protects animals, but also obsoletes their purpose from a symbiosis standpoint. We wouldn't commit much land to cows just treat them like pets, so not eating cows will wipe out their population?

Tom Campbell uses the example that one cow in the wild has a better experience than one hundred cows on the farm, but is that really the case? Most animals that live in the wild suffer excruciating death at the hands of predators. We believe that pets undergo spiritual growth by the virtue of being around humans, can the same be said of free range livestock?

Then I look at a coffee plantation where the human and environmental cost of production is obscene - yet it is considered ethically vegan.

The question of how to live while doing the least harm is a really difficult problem to solve. No matter which direction you turn someone or something is getting plundered and abused on this planet...

How do you settle the ethical debate in your own minds? Keep it civil...lol.

I feel like this topic covers both spiritual evolution and metaphysics in terms of sections but here we are:

Suppose that there is such a concept as the Oversoul; a core being that creates "soul fragments" to experience realities like this one with constrained knowledge. The idea is that any gains made in a fragment experience are assimilated to the Oversoul, perhaps on death or as a live feed, and there could be multiple concurrent fragments taking place.

Now consider the idea of parallel realities - forks in the timeline from this reality which explore alternative significant states for that reality system. For example, what if you decided to follow your dream as a rock star? That might be a parallel reality with a slightly different you, branched by the system intelligently in order to explore some useful information.


Now that the stage is set, how does one rectify these ideas into a consistent world view? If we are really experiencing parallel realities does each incarnation of us fall under the same Oversoul umbrella? We talk about past lives, but what about the entire multiplexed set of possible realities for that past life?

Is there any point to pursuing sobriety in the life experience as a human?

Some people take this concept to the extreme - denying themselves of even the most basic stimulant such as eating salt on food.

I have recently learned that pornography can measurably change brain behavior to the point that it is equal or more damaging than some drug addictions. Similarly those that suffer ADHD experience reduced dopamine sensitivity to the point of losing interest in reality.

I have had ADHD most of my life, diagnosed by a child psychologist. I look back at my life and think, what part of it hasn't been addiction?

You may disagree but after learning more about the way dopamine acts in the brain I have come to think that every human behavior is rooted in addiction. It is not possible to experience something enjoyable, regardless of whether it is positive or negative, without the brain attaching to that behavior and lamenting its absence.

For instance consider a parent's love for their child or an athlete that loves sports. On a chemical level it is the same as a drug addiction.

We tend to ignore positive addictions and gloss over the ones we aren't aware of. Consider addiction to the comfort of being warm, a luxury many early humans didn't enjoy often.

What is the point of sobriety? Is it even possible for the human mind? Is quitting eating salt wasting a lifetime of possible experiences?

Sometimes I wonder if astral projection is such a great experience that it dominates the human mind. Perhaps this is why the projection experiences I have never live up to a fraction of what I know they can be.

I often find myself thinking about things I would like to do after dying.


For instance, I think of friends I enjoyed time with in the golden days of certain gaming communities. We are unlikely to have reason to come together again in this reality, but I would look forward to seeing them again in an environment with less limitations.

I feel like my entire life in this reality I have fantasized about being able to fly freely across the land. It is an experience feel is achievable through astral projection, but it hasn't happened for me yet. On one hand I'm not worried about never achieving it and add it to the mental bucket list of things to do after I die.


Then comes the rub. What is really left of our minds post death?

Enough to remember a bucket list or friends?

I suppose I fear the recycling process of consciousness destroying the things I love. Erasing the context that makes the events special. Creating a new perspective that makes experiences I value irrelevant.

Do you have a bucket list for post death? Should we feel like these things need to be done through astral projection during this life time to really be meaningful?

At some point in conscious projection attempts we are often faced with a fear test and given a choice. I have experienced it from the void. It felt like standing on a cliff with the floor about to fall out, on the other side an immense cosmos of the unknown. There is a strong foreboding of death.

It is probably a fear of death test and the experience may resemble physical death given the similarities with projection experiences and NDEs. To be successful I think it is important to have given this issue consideration prior to being presented with the choice or your automatic response will be to back away.

The reason I opened this thread is to share what I have done to help train myself for the test and maybe you will get something out of it for yourself.


Susceptibility to the fear response in our biological brains is related to a calibration of relative threats. If there are no significant threat signals being received by your mind, such as being chased by a wild animal, every day stresses that shouldn't cause a problem result in an exaggerated fear response.

Two techniques for managing this problem are to give your mind a more natural understanding of a true threat or to experience the scenario that causes fear and manually change the response. Remember that the purpose of the fear response is to keep us safe. Every time you back away from the choice to astral project due to fear you strengthen the evolutionary success markers of that pattern in the brain and re-enforce that response.

I achieve the two types of approaches to managing fear with practical exercises. Re-calibration of threats is done with ice baths as the cold speaks directly to ancient centers in our brains in a relatively safe way that has a large impact.

I practice experiencing the scenario with 3rd eye yogic techniques such as Bandha locks. This exercise often induces symptoms of separation or fainting that resemble what you experience with projection. Over time I have become very comfortable with letting go and accepting the symptoms without fear.

What other techniques could we try as a form of "fear" training?

Anyone have the ability or inclination to consistently experience an "astral home" where constructs would perhaps stay exactly as they were left?

Recently I had a sandbox video game experience that seemed to last for several hours. I pursued various quests and met NPCs around a future dystopian beach area.

The experience made me wonder - I know that I can resume or re-occur a dream, and thus probably a dream video game - but what about a default locality outside of this life experience?

I have been having 3 or 4 decent experiences per night recently and have got some new data points on the spectrum that I find interesting enough to share.

1) In my clearest experience to date I felt like I was completely aware that I was dreaming and possessed free will. I wanted to summon a friend to talk to and one manifested as desired with no distortion in the reality or waver in awareness.

Upon waking I realized that the perspective of being completely aware was an illusion because my physical reality plans weren't things that came to mind.

That day the friend contacted me out of the blue, suggesting a possible prediction experience.

2) I was roused abnormally physically while entering a wake and back to bed dream and found a new mindset. It was like a dream was beginning but no human senses had yet kicked in. It was an idea phase before taking dream experience perspective. A thought with substance.

The locked focus type of astral projection has still been too difficult. I can tell that I am instantly mentally blocked as soon as I think about doing it. The wake and back to bed method with intent to dream works reasonably well. Is there really a higher level of clarity that masters the mentality of both realities? Buhlman describes a clarity mantra that he would try to max out as the first priority in any experience, but I can never remember to do this either.

This morning I went back to bed to sleep in after waking up. It is hard to be sure how good my memory is of the sequence of events since it is possible there were nested dreams involved, but this is how I remember it.

I had not laid down for long at all before I began my attempt to project. I tossed and turned a little before settling down and letting my mind drift. You know you are getting close due to a physical sensation of haziness or lightness. It is difficult to describe but I have become more familiar with this feeling by naturally drifting off to sleep while listening to audiobooks. The narration holds attention long enough to perceive this sensation where you may normally spiral off into sleep.

The duration of time from being in this reality to the next was no more than the span of two breaths. Somehow the breaths were critical and possibly the most important innovation learned from this experience. It was all about the exhale, during a long exhale I would feel the "sensation" increase and get some glimpses of subtle lights.

Upon the second long exhale I saw slightly more vivid lights but nothing extraordinary - there was also a quiet bang that caught my attention as a sign of crossover, although it was indeed much quieter than some of the gunshots I have heard in the past on failed attempts.

Truth be told I thought I had failed this attempt too because post bang I felt no different. I decided to open my eyes and there was a strange window in the wall that didn't belong. I suspected that I was not in my normal house so I went out to confirm the longue and found my partner watching TV. From this point I was swept away in the dream scenario - touch football at the beach, a movie theatre full of violent rioting high school students.

It wasn't until I woke up in this reality that it really clicked that I had been in another reality. At some point I must have become convinced that the strange house was indeed my house.

The critical question was, did I really discover a useful addition to wake induced separation technique and perform my first fully conscious end to end separation, or was I already dreaming when I began - which has fooled me more than once before.

The purpose of this topic is to discuss a potential misinterpretation of our capabilities in NPR.

Here is what I have come to believe should be possible: Enter my personal "safe zone" - look into the sky and perceive a phenomenal cosmos, like seeing the PMR stars with a telescope via the naked eye. Fly around and blow up mountains with energy blasts. Experience the plot of a favourite book from a first person perspective. Construct a temple on fractal principles that dwarfs any earthly construction to a laughable extent.

What I find is actually possible: Become aware in a pseudo-random scenario. Clarity of mind feels crystal clear. Knowledge of the current experience being NPR is at an all time high. Spend what seems like an hour wandering within the scenario. Wrack my brain trying to figure out my original intent (the above experience prototype). Suffer complete and utter amnesia when it comes to anything beyond the current scenario.

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What does it take to be able to exercise free will in the NPR?

I thought that the problem was lack of awareness - that doesn't seem to fit due to the impenetrable amnesia. I thought the problem might be a banning of bad intentions - I can make destructive choices within the scenario, but as soon as I try I get smoke screened and the scenario fades away until I stop that intent.

It seems reasonable to draw the conclusion that negative intent is banned. I can possibly understand why, but it is shaky ground. Positive intent is also banned. I don't understand why.

Furthermore, something about my being in NPR is wrong, it doesn't feel like me. I have read that in NPR we assume our higher consciousness personality, to me it feels the opposite. My quality of consciousness is severely reduced, as is my ability to make good decisions and seek growth.

If I had to put my finger on the problem - my intellect has been entirely removed. I thought this problem could be bypassed with conscious projection, but I am not convinced that works either.

I see value to the experiences I am having, but I cannot see how they are not a tragic waste of potential because the gains are so minuscule compared to even a fraction of my imagination.

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TLDR; Have I been misled to believe that the type of experience I imagine is achievable? Why does my time in NPR feel like a tremendous waste of potential?

I read an article discussing the chemical relationship between melatonin and DMT. The TL;DR is that melatonin minus carbon dioxide results in DMT. It is widely believed that DMT is associated with lucid dreaming in the REM cycle. The new information is that the REM cycle also corresponds to an increase in oxygen - breathing rates double in lab mice during REM. The increase in oxidization and blood alkalinity could correspond with more melatonin being broken down into DMT and thus more lucid dreams are experienced in the REM cycle.

I find this relationship fascinating because my own astral projections have only really succeeded either during REM or directly after performing the Wim Hof Method / Holotropic breath work. Furthermore, people observing my physical body while I project report that I breathe in a fast, almost panicked, manner despite that I am not having a remotely stressful experience in my mind.

My questions to you astral-nauts are the following:

Could the relationship between oxidization of the body and the ability to experience lucid dreams explain the common belief that physical health or a vegan diet is an important factor?

I don't understand why there is such a strong correspondence between DMT, dreams and REM when some people can just project at will during the day. What is happening chemically in the minds of these people?

I saw this phrase "Becoming profoundly content with ones self" in one of the books discussing living in the "now".

It is about acceptance of where you are and what you are at all times. I want to achieve it, but I don't quite understand it.

Isn't it true that acceptance is an excuse to under achieve? If I am completely accepting of myself in all circumstances I can abandon my dreams today.

Another point touched on is the concept of thankfulness. Consider and appreciate where you are, how far you have come, and the pleasures you do have access to. What if I take that all away? I am going to reset your consciousness to having no memory and lock you in perceptionless dimension for eternity. What do you have to be thankful for in this circumstance and should you be profoundly content with the most limited existence imaginable?

Being content seems a lot like giving up...

Howdy,

A few nights back I was in a lucid dream reality and I was experimenting with reality manipulation to control the weather and create incredible thunder storms. The experience varied from the standard when a vision of a real life friend appeared. He joined in with me in creating lightning and various other reality manipulations and seemed aware of what we were doing. This is the first time I have met an entity in another reality that demonstrated signs of intelligence and active participation beyond being an actor in the scene.

The person had no memory of the events the following morning. It makes me wonder whether what I experienced was a "dream unit" or the real thing. Has anyone ever tried in depth interrogation of dream entities to ascertain their "authenticity" as an individual unit of consciousness?

On Saturday morning I found myself in a dream reality, unaware that I was dreaming. From within this dream I decided to go to bed and attempt a conscious projection.

I immediately felt like I was on the brink of perceiving a new reality but it was shaky and unstable, I could tell I was close to losing it and I couldn't quite see anything. At this point an idea strongly came into my mind that I needed to be "in the now" without consideration of other thoughts. I applied it, and it took effect immediately, rendering in vision of a stair case that I was half way up on my hands and knees.

I found myself upstairs in a hotel room and this time I knew I was in a non physical reality. I went around the place taking close note of the positions of various objects so I could confirm their existence later. At this point I still believed that the former dream was my physical reality that needed to be compared. After a while I woke up twice and realized I was in a double nested dream.

I feel that the idea of being in the now was an important discovery for me, it was like having the idea, applying the idea and witnessing the results simultaneously. It may have given a taste of the mindset necessary.

I have noticed a pattern in my astral projections where almost every time I gain dream control I immediately use it to manifest dream sex. It is never much fun, I have read that astral sex can be amazing, but this is usually some kind of weak emulation without much real sensation.

I have come to feel like these inclinations are somehow holding me back from doing something more significant in my dream time. Any ideas on how to proceed?

Hey guys,

I have been having some promising results with my projection attempts this past week. I have been making my attempts during the 5 to 10 minute meditation period after the rounds of Wim Hof breathing. You can get quite deep fairly quickly this way.

It usually happens in one of two ways - I almost always get hit by this way first; I briefly lose track of my thoughts and find myself in a barely resolved dream. For example I might find myself having a conversation with my partner, or on another occasion I felt her tapping my knee. At this point I realize that she isn't actually home and I must have started dreaming.

After this first jolt I know I am deep enough to cross over so I will sometimes play with some scenario visualization. The crux point comes suddenly; where I start to feel the physical state of the subject I am imagining, usually with a rapid acceleration.

The trouble is that without fail as soon as I recognise that something has happened the experience ends abruptly. Is there anything I can do differently to try and get deeper into these experiences without them aborting?

I have been doing the Wim Hof method for 3 weeks now. The latest video class has revealed some things that I thought could be very relevant to OBE. The premise is that blood in your body goes wherever your focus is. This has been proven in labs in Holland. The majority of the time the blood in our brain is focused on the cognitive thinking areas, but it is possible to slow this down and move blood to other areas for interesting results.

One of the exercises of the Wim Hof method involves something similar to kundalini yoga. By increasing oxidation in the body and placing focus the pineal gland becomes more active and allows you to see an interpretation of electromagnetism. This is commonly referred to as chakra lights but it also seems similar to the kinds of things you see while attempting to phase.

Perhaps a part of the mechanism that makes phasing work is focus physically activating the pineal gland, it explains the strange visuals and I believe that DMT release from this gland has also been connected to dreaming and OBE.

I put the question out there, are the visuals we see the result of the regular optic signal, the 3rd eye or the minds eye, is there a difference?

Perhaps full body oxidation can be a useful tool to enable easier phasing episodes. I will pursue this idea and let you know.

After picking up a hint here I got into William Buhlman's book. I recommend it, even after reading most of the other books available on the subject it had some new lessons to offer.

I often become "aware" in my lucid dreams, but converting this in conscious control is another matter. Buhlman suggests stating out loud "this is a dream". It worked for me and I briefly gained high awareness. After a few moments I vaguely thought of my body and that was the end of the experience.

If a full blown astral projection can be instantly halted by a single thought of the body, what are the implications while attempting to project consciously?

I have always thought that it is possible to "bank" progress in the meditation process the further you go, however, thinking of my body is a magnet I haven't been able to resist for long. To some extent thoughts of the body have become an automatic response to any stimuli I experience.

As a thought experiment if one was to measure progress to transition on a scale of 1 to 10, what is the true effect of thinking of the body? It feels as if body focus can reset levels back to a 1 instantly, yet non-body focus achieving anything is regrettably far from instant. I feel like at times I linger around the 8 or 9 mark, failing 5 or more transitions in a span of a minute or two.

Anyone have any experience with these? Some friends and I have obtained some "dream tea" containing Mugwort and Valerian. All of us have had a strong response from this. Last night I had one of the longest and most lucid dreams I have ever had and the ability to remember the experience was a lot stronger than usual.

These herbs, while relatively weak seem to be quite effective. Some stronger versions include Mexican Dream Herb and African Dream Root. Testimonials from these sound amazing; I am going to try and obtain some.

I was able to get some more understanding after a couple of events in my recent projection attempts. When in a reasonably deep relaxation, I let my mind go blank. Eventually I get snagged by an unrestrained train of thought. This is the kind of train that you might experience in normal life when you space out time. The difference between this and a normal train of thought is that it is accompanied by a hallucination.

It isn't a visual hallucination. The experience is more comparable to imagination, but far more vivid and with a very small viewport. On occasion if you are thinking about the right thing you might see yourself in this reality bubble. The weird part about that is that you can feel sense of touch in first person perspective while watching yourself in third. Sometimes I have even found my hands sort of reaching into this tiny dream.

I understand that this is probably what is meant by the scene taking a life of it's own, however, I do not experience this through driven imagination, it is necessary for the train of thought to be organic. The next step is to embrace these little dreams and immerse in them. Usually the moment I realize that it is happening it ends.

Once I was reaching into the scene and I grabbed a bunch of cards on a table. If one was to maximize their physical expose to the other reality it may provide enough of an anchor for a successful "physical" based phasing.

In this interview Donald Cerrone describes what it is like to be "in the zone" as an out of body experience.

https://youtu.be/aqM4E6LxMCM?t=3981

Does anyone here have the ability to just go into an OBE state like this?

I went to a mind, body and spirit festival on the weekend and had a chakra healing done. I have certainly felt stronger energy sensations now than ever before and something compelled me to use this for astral projection.

Here is the procedure: Roll your eyes into the back of your head so that you feel a stretch, not pain, and maintain it with your eyes closed. This is something I picked up from hypnosis videos but it also assists in generating the energy body feeling.

The next step is to try to harness your energy body. It is the same sensation that you get from trying to move your hand while keeping it perfectly relaxed, like a phantom hand, but everywhere in your body at the same time.

Take this energy body like you are investing all of your being and willpower and move it outside of your physical locus. Try not to endure physical tension, when you fully invest in the feeling it can creep up. I think it is possible to project even with a little bit of tension. The key is to maintain this feeling relentlessly for a couple of minutes or until you transition.

My first attempt with this technique was very successful, I went from laying down to sleep to transition symptoms in less than 2 minutes. I like to kick off the relaxation process by manually slowing my breathing down to something more resembling sleep, but there is a special quality about this technique where you just feel your physical body rapidly shutting down. Not only did my breathing slow automatically but the sensation of breathing even taking place quickly fades. Furthermore the tongue assumes that slack floating quality associated with sleep.

A few moments after I totally lost sensation of my breathing I was hit by a very high pitch loud ringing noise with sudden onset. It actually reminded me of how your ears sound after hearing a gunshot from too close. This was a clear transition symptom to me. Unfortunately about 2 seconds later I was interrupted by my partner, but this technique shows promise.

With this technique I do not focus on visuals at all; I think I have a stronger affinity for the tactile exit since all of my transitions have been of this nature so far.

Hey guys,

I have been turning my attention more and more towards astral projection in the sleep/dream state during the night. I haven't had any success in my last ~100 attempts of meditative projection but I reliably have conscious dreams each night and I feel this plays to my strengths.

My short term goal is to move from dreams where I am consciously aware into dreams that I consciously control. There seems to be a mental barrier of some kind between my awareness in dream realities and this reality. While I am making conscious decisions in the dream, I still don't realize that what I am experiencing is a dream most of the time. I feel like if I could flip that switch I would access a new realm of possibilities.

I have been scrubbing my memory for dreams each morning and have started writing down what I remember. It is a powerful technique and is allowing me to recall up to 2 or 3 different dreams in a given night. There is one reoccurring theme that I have noticed about these dreams. They almost always involve fist fighting some intimidating character, whether it is a stranger in the house, a zombie in some kind of haunted house or a giant in the super market.

Does anyone have any advice for me pertaining to raising my awareness in dreams?

My most vivid OBE occurred through a dream entry. I was in an analog of the home of my childhood neighbor, an old man down the road. I would visit the man sometimes to obtain weaved flax tips for my cattle whip. He died years ago, I didn't know him well, and I can't remember even thinking about him in a long time.

We were sitting at a dining table and I was in the process of trying to explain concepts of consciousness and the afterlife. In the context of the experience we both knew that the man would be dying soon and I guess I was trying to prepare him somehow. He ultimately refused to believe anything I was saying and that experience ended. It was unique for me because I rarely hold conversation, let alone with a controlled train of thought, in previous lucid dreams.

The experience continued in a ball room, wherein I met two girls. In this context they were friends of my partner's family. I knew the custom was to kiss them on the cheek but there was a problem. One of the girls was over 8 feet tall. Even though I was experiencing this from a first person perspective, I simultaneously felt like an observer and the situation was hilarious. This instantly translated into my first person experience as I doubled over in hysterical laughter. Another first for my experiences.

I had my first substantial OBE 4 hours ago. It was approximately 5:00am, I awoke to the sound of the hot water cylinder boiling. I got up and went to the bathroom, then returned to bed to go to sleep. I cant judge the time that passed before I next became aware, somewhere within the range of 10 seconds to 10 minutes.

The first thing I experienced was a sensation like my body was gently drifting backwards and then my body seemed to stretch for a few moments. In this stretching feeling there was also a brief sensation of partial dis-corporation and a subtle feeling of transition through some kind of space that is difficult to explain. It felt as if I existed in a type of partial void where reality was like static on a television. There were no vibrations, nor strong energy sensations or sounds.

After the transition I was in the familiar light weight body that I have felt twice before briefly. I began to float up, parallel to the ground initially then becoming upright. At this point I became aware of my vision and I put all my focus into it to try and cement the experience. I stopped near the ceiling light. The room was still very naturally dark so I could not see extremely well but I appeared to be in an accurate emulation of real time. I wanted to fly through the roof so I could get a better look around. I put my focus on flying upwards but I couldn't move; I willed movement harder and felt paralyzed. The next thing I was aware of was that I was back in my body behind closed eyelids.

The entire experience felt like approximately 15 seconds. I felt quite lucidly aware during the experience, and it definitely possessed a dream like quality but at a higher lucidity than I have previously experienced.

Despite the fact that I have been trying to phase for over a year using various techniques and have had limited success, this experience was completely accidental. The only conclusion I can draw from this is that to recreate the experience I need to be in a deeper sleep state than I have currently been achieving through planned phasing sessions.

My ultimate goal is to be able to phase at will and I have been experimenting with waking dissociation for 6 months.

How do you contrast the experiences of a waking phase and a sleeping phase?

I feel like I forced the experience too much in my attempts to fly. I believed that it was going to be easy and was surprised when it wasn't.

For several months I have been developing a strange ability which is growing stronger. I let go of my physical body and then apply focus in a certain way in my mind. I feel electrical sensations running from my head down by body, a numbness in my limbs and a feeling of lightness and dissociation in the mind. The symptoms do resemble the feelings I get when I make normal relaxation based phasing attempts. My guess is that whatever it is that I am doing forces my consciousness slightly away from the physical; however, I cannot maintain the state for long. Focusing too intently on this causes my muscles to twitch and shake intensely.

Does anyone has have any experience with this phenomenon?

Hey guys,

This is my first post and I would like to share some of the experiences I have had over the past 6 months while attempting astral projection. I haven't had a complete astral experience yet, but the things I have felt while meditating vary greatly and are a little bizarre so I am quite interested to hear your thoughts and insights on these events.


Tactile Imagination: This is when your waking imagination seemingly interacts with you physically. It usually happens when the imagination is allowed to run wild after some relaxation.

The first time I experienced this I was imagining a folder to keep documents inside. Subconsciously I decided I wanted to handle the object. When I realized what was happening I was flipping the item around in my hands and it felt physical to touch, however, my real hands were in a different position under the blankets at this time. Upon realizing this I was shocked back to awareness.

In another instance my mind was running free and I saw a Giant with a cricket bat. He he hit me as I was laying in bed, with a type of golf swing, where I was the ball. I felt like I was flying at roller coaster speeds, parallel to the ground. Once again the experience proved too shocking to relax through.


Energy Sensation: Throughout most of my experiences I have been feeling an energy sensation which gets stronger the closer to sleep paralysis I become. I suspect they might be vibrations, however, I am also slightly doubtful of this because I also feel them when I am awake and I seem to be able to induce them at will.

It began on a particular night where I was laying on my side attempting to astral project. I didn't think I was very deep, most sleep paralysis symptoms hadn't kicked in yet and I was lucid but empty of mind. Suddenly I felt a physical jab in my lower spine. It was as if someone had taken two fingers and hit me forcefully. Instantaneously my entire body was flooded with an energy and vibration at a magnitude I had never felt before. It differed from vibrations I had felt in the past in that the sensation had extended beyond the shape of my physical body. I actually felt as if my entire body was an ethereal cloud, but in a reasonably uniform cylinder of perhaps 1 meter radius. The experience was shocking and even though I tried to relax into it, the sensation slowly waned as I became too engaged mentally.

These sensations are getting stronger and stronger in my body and they seem to intensify if I focus in the region of the 3rd eye. It hit a new frontier last night and I will elaborate on that soon.


Phasing Theories:

I am currently trailing two different separation methods, based on two approaches which Frank Kepple described. I believe that keeping the mind away from thoughts of the physical body is key. The first way, Frank describes, as noticing or passive engagement; I interpret this as, avoid thinking about your body by engaging in the activity of noticing. The alternative method is to engage your mind completely in imagination so it is too occupied for thoughts of the physical body.

I personally struggle with passive engagement. A combination of a nose injury and allergies result in me having inflamed sinus cavities a lot of the time. It can get to the point where it isn't comfortable to breath through my nose. This is a problem because breathing through my mouth causes it to dry out and the irritation is prohibitive to relaxation. Ultimately my body's various nags make it difficult to notice without my thoughts returning to my body.

I see the imagination method as turning up the volume knob on your mental engagement and phasing your consciousness away from the physical world. It is also a decent use of time for improving memory and imagination if you are a person that has spent many hours trying to astral project unsuccessfully.


Rainbow Tower Method:

The concept is to create a sequence of imagination which can engage your mind for long enough to forget your physical body. I created the prototype for this sequence by combining some elements of the description Frank Kepple gave of his experience with Monroe's CDs and another method I happened upon which involves visualizing colored objects in the order of the rainbow. There is something to the rainbow method; at first I was skeptical of the significance of the colors and imagined the key was in the familiarity sequence. After violet, you are supposed to imagine glorious white light. Each color I went through, an intense anticipation built up. When I reached the white light phase, I was feeling the strongest exit symptoms I have experienced. I felt like I was falling backwards down into an abyss, but there was something more than just the physical sensation. There was also a profound sense of the unknown. Regrettably, the experience was quite frightening and I unwillingly succumbed to fear, which halted the experience.

I would be interested to hear if anyone thinks there is a special interaction between the mind and these colors or whether it is just the concept of a countdown that creates a powerful positive frame of mind. In either case, I combine both techniques in the Rainbow Tower; it doesn't have to be a tower, choose something important to you. The idea is that you walk up a tower, room by room. The rooms are colored in the rainbow order and filled with objects of that same color. If you like you can imagine that the tower exists in your body and each floor corresponds to the chakra of the area. The colors you imagine will also match to stimulate each chakra. I chose to categorize the objects in my rooms chronologically by my life experience, selecting the ideas, items and people most important at that time for each room. I found the exercise of remembering the things that mattered on each floor to be very engaging and stimulating.

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