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I thought some of you might find this experience I had when I was thirtteen to be interesting.
I went to bed as usual, and that night I rose up out of my physical body. I walked over to an old eight track my parents had in the basement of the house, and I manipulated some physical objects. I placed a Styx tape in the player. I now know that I was in my denser astral body. At the time I didn't know since I wasn't doing any of this stuff back then.
Then  I walked into the basement rec room, and I saw a being of wjhite light. This being looked like a ball of white light with bright red and blue lights, which sparkled among the mass of white light. This being was shaped like a sphere.
That's all I remember.
When I woke up early that morning, I ran downstairs, and sure enough the objects I had moved while I had astral projected were in the places I had left them during my ap.
Then the next night I astral projected again.
After those two times I astral projected, I had many dreams where I was flying. In most of those dreams I could feel myself flying.

A few weeks ago I woke up in the middle of the night, and I saw four beings of white-gold light floating around my bed.
I knew right away that they were teachers, biut as they looked at me I also knew they did not want to teach me.
I went back to sleep and when I woke up I felt sad that these spirits had chosen not to teach me.
I asked them why they were unwilling to teach me, but I received no answer from them, so I figured if they weren't willing to answer such a simple question it might have been better that they decided not to teach me after all.
There was something odd looking about them. Around their lower bodies below the waist their legs appeared to be fused together. So one apendage below the waist which tapered off at the bottom. They appeared to be wearing some sort of crowns or golden headgear.
Has anybody else ever seen beings like them? This is the first time I have ever seen these types of spirits.

Spell for Protection of the Home

Draw pentagram. Burn candle and incense. Evokes safety in home. Sea salt is sprinkled in every room of home.
Sprinkle sea salt around perimeter of home if you cannot sprinkle it in every room.

Of sea and salt
Of ill be free
Fire and air
Draw all that is fare
Around and around the circle is bound
Perfect love and perfect trust

O mighty Mother
Cast your light apond this blade
So I may cast this circle to be a temple between two worlds
This symbol and pentagram to evoke safety in this home

Start at top. Sprinkle sea salt on perimeter.

Call four guardians of watch: Michelee, Gabrale, Rapheille, and Urielle to be guardians of this domain.

Renew every full moon.

Tools needed

Water, candles, incense, sea salt, dagger. I only use the spell and sea salt.

Mek/ale  

Ur/ee/ale

You can just do this around the perimeter of the house.

Michelle: north
Gaberale: East
Rapheille: South
Urielle: West

Thanks for the link.Very helpful

Thanks for the posts with the links to the lucid dreaming place. I read over some of the material and am inspired to try again.

dw

cool!

when I first get out, I end up any old place until I get my wits about me.


Tisha

"As Above, So Below"

The itchy sensations sounds like the cobweb phenomenon Robert describes in AD pages283-285. Unsusal amount of energy moving your head pprobably due to the pressure exerted by the rope technique. Just ignore it if it's bearable.
I've started to feel the same around my right eye and thr side of my mouth but they go away if I ignore them for a while.

Floating feelings? Keep going with the rope. It sounds like you're close to exiting.

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jouni

Any chance you could make an MP3 and post it here somewhere?

I think what makes any symbl holy is your belief and what that symbols means to you.
As such any symbol can be holy or not.
How do you feel about it?

2cents

jouni

When there is grogginess it is the other way around for me. It happens during the meditation and goes away as soon as I stop. In any case, grogginess is not a good thing. It is very uncomfortable. The first thing I'd suggest is making sure that you are getting enough sleep and exercise. Taking care of your body in general helps keep the channels clear. If that doesn't help and it doesn't go away on its own after a week or two, it could be that you are encountering resistance of some form. It might be necessary to evaluate your associations with other people, work situation, living conditions, to see if you are stuck somewhere in unhealthy conditions. If you could be more specific, please, about the posture you use, the technique you use, when you meditate, when you take your meals, and how your work and sleep and socializing fit around your meditation it might me easier to be specific about things to try.

Great! so did you manage to leave your body then? did the white light  just disapear after a while?

just because you don't believe something is true doesn't mean it isn't. after all, many scientists "know" that there is no such thing as a God but many others "know" there is. so who is right?

not knowing an answer is why science is around: to find an answer, but not to make one up.

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets

well, angels can appear however they want; satan often takes the form of an ancient serpent (or dragon, if you will) in tales in the bible as well as else where.

good luck on getting an ap or oobp.

the amulet: if you haven't already, you might want to further enchant it to be able to switch between protecting both your physical and non-physical "selfs", and just protecting you spirit. that way, when you trigger it to just protect your spirit, it may allow your self to distinguish between your body and your spirit easier, which may allow for an easier oobp. just a thought. but if you don't like the idea of your body being unprotected, try enchanting your amulet to just protect your body (which should have the same effect of allowing you to distinguish between spirit and body easier) and then just use your own personal power (and your angels) to protect yourself when the "opportunity" arises    . just a thought. or many thoughts.  

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets

The 'swastika' is a Bhuddist symbol, it is used all over the Bhuddist world - it is a symbol that represents peace and spirituality.
The Nazis stole the swastika design and used it as their own party symbol, it is just the people of the western world who automatically think Nazi and evil when they think swastika, in the Bhuddist world it is still a symbol of peace.
I think when she said use a swastika he meant to use the Bhuddist one, in other words the original design.

try searching the house for a spirit. if you can't find one, then try ap'ing again. if the drawer rattles again, then it was you.

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets

dig up your floor board and find out what's down there.

~kakkarot

Secret of Secrets

[Originally posted by Qball:]

I dont think it would be wise to jump to the conclusion that most spiritualists are influenced by negs. I'm sure there would be many out there who are, but also many who are not, and have nothing but good intentions. Although I have no evidence of this I would assume that the percentage would be in favour of the later. But of course I could be wrong.

This so called medium who you spoke to sounds like a bit of a flake

quote:Originally posted by Qball:
A spiritualist medium told me that I am not very spiritual.

pfffft, my opinion; you should think of her as the one who is not very spiritual. Obviously if you are communicating with your guides then compared to many, your spiritual status is quite up there.
I wouldnt bother dwelling on it.
Maybe you could elaborate further on the issue.

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Hi Qball, welcome to the forum,

I think, but I'm no expert, that when you get that paralysis of the body, it means that you are actually on the verge of OBE.  So your paralysis was not due to another spirit, but your own process.  

I have to wonder what was the purpose of those spirits telling you "that when I was unable to move my body a spirit was trying to enter my physical body".  Was that supposed to help you in some way?  No spirit can just come and enter your body.  That would make me apprehensive...  I think they were a bit negative.  And to get a 'grunt' as a reply from the Indian man?  Well, you can do without this kind of guidance.  

Ask that you get guidance 'only' from those that have an interest in your wellbeing.