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#1
I think this is my second time directly phasing to FOC 2 through a rundown/imagination without having a lapse of consciousness. I had a headache so I wanted to take a nap. I laid down with no intention of meditating, phasing, or anything.

12/15/15

Tried taking a nap

Started imagining myself like sort of jumping through large bodies of water and falling through waterfalls or something

I start "seeing" this stuff

I back out from imagining this. I see behind my eyes phosphenes/stray energy. I go back to imagining.

Eventually I imagine myself falling from the cliff of a waterfall into the river below

I see myself fall in, I swim up, I can now feel the water on my hands and body
Literally feels like I'm in the ocean
I splash with my hand and feel and see the splash

Body numb

Started spinning
In a new room spinning
Nonverbally intend like let's go not tryna spin here all day
I start floating out the room
Everything goes black

Asked for clarity

Small screen opens in the blackness of what looks like the inside of my old house comes into view
I look around
Started walking through the house
Such a nice house!
Beautiful kitchen, living rooms, etc
I'm running past all this stuff trying to figure out where I am and take it all in

Get to a door
There's someone in it
Sounds like he's on the phone or something, I hear his name is Phil
I try to float through the door
Doesn't work.. I go back throughout the house
My current roommate comes out a room, he's brushing his teeth not paying me any attention

Experience ends

I wake up and immediately realize I was in my own dream environment

Like always, description doesn't really match awesomeness of experience but thought I should share. Thanks.
#2
Anybody heard of these?

http://sleepwithremee.com/

It's a sleep mask with LED's that are supposed to bleed through into your dream and make you aware that you're dreaming.

One of my friends who know I'm into astral projection sent me this link. I've told him about some of my lucid dreams so that's probably why he sent it to me. Anyways, just thought I should share. Maybe you'll be interested, maybe you've already heard of it, or maybe you already have some kind of experience with them and can enlighten us to how effective they are?
#3
Welcome to Dreams! / Inception
April 02, 2013, 06:58:25
Last summer I would have a bunch of these weird dreams all the time. It would start off with me in what I believed to be my house in my room. At this point it is not a lucid dream but simply just a very vivid one in full color to the point where I thought I wasn't dreaming and that it was real life; but I wasn't conscious like in a lucid dream. In the dream I would lie down and try to go out of body. I would feel real separation sensations and then be in a different body believing that I had just gone out of body, but I didn't really go out of body. At this point this very vivid dream has become a lucid dream. I'm very much conscious thinking I just had a conscious exit into the RTZ. But really I'm just lucid dreaming.

So one time this happened and I walked out the door of my house. Yes I used the door. I then went walking around my neighborhood. Yes walking lol So I'm lucid dreaming thinking I'm having an OBE walking around smh. Eventually I decide to fly around and now I'm flying which we all know is super fun. So like I said I thought I was in the RTZ (this was before I ever had a conscious exit) so I got the thought of flying into space at a 45 degree angle to go to the astral. I begin to fly upward diagonally but when I get to a certain height I start to fly horizontally and it's like there's a barrier stopping me from flying too high up vertically. This is when I put 2+2 together and realize I'm not in the RTZ I'm really having a lucid dream because if I was in the RTZ I would be able to fly into space. (And this is why I always recommend that people read). Okay so I realized I'm dreaming. I don't really know how to phase out of a dream when I'm in one and that's one reason why I'm writing this. I looked up into the sky and noticed the backdrop.. It's like a flat 2D border that I notice surrounds all of my dream environs. It was the night sky but as I looked into it thousands of yellow lights/stars pierced the sky.. like they were burning through the black backdrop. It was beautiful. I woke up shortly thereafter. I was in my bed but I knew something wasn't right. There was a body in the bed next to me under the covers (I sleep alone). I realized that I must be dreaming and didn't really wake up. When I came to this realization I also knew that the body laying next to me belonged to me. Looking around the room I noticed it was my old room in my parents house which confirmed I was dreaming and I woke myself up. I'm sure if I got scared and panicked from that body next to me that situation would've gotten ugly fast.

There was this other dream I had where I knew I was dreaming and I was in this huge, futuristic city full of skyscrapers. I was flying high above the city. The dream had a plot like I knew there was some antagonist in the city that was after me or that I was after. I had a feeling that this person could fly too so being in the air wasn't the best move. For some reason I had to get to my apartment somewhere in the city but I had no idea where my apartment was. I flew to the ground and thought well hey I'm in a dream I can teleport. So I closed my eyes and focused on the thought and intent of an apartment and teleporting there. I had never closed my eyes in a dream before and when I did this it felt as if I lost the dream and was waking up. I felt a distinct shift and figured this must be me waking up. Next thing I know I'm in a room in an apartment. The tv I currently own in physical reality was in the room so I kind of couldn't tell if I was awake or not. So I looked out the window and it was dark, gloomy and seemed like the aftermath of an apocalypse. It was like in the matrix when Morpheus showed Neo the real world or like in the new Total Recall where they had that one abandoned city where they had to wear masks when they went there. Yeah more like that Total Recall scene. After seeing this I'm not sure if I knew I was dreaming but I definitely knew I wasn't where I should've been. Looking around the room there was this cordless house phone on the floor and its charger was separated and I knew it was reconfigured to be a time machine. It had a headset and a screen. I put the headset on and it was set to a year I don't remember what year though. Far 2000 something. I pressed the button and was sucked into the signal.. sort of like in the matrix.. Next thing I know I'm in the same apartment but everything is bright and colorful. I look outside and it's sunny and there are people walking around and the beach and the shore are right there. At this point I knew it was a dream. There were two big tv's in the living room and a bunch of futuristic looking thin desktops and next gen gaming consoles from the future it was pretty cool. I went downstairs and I saw the sweetest pair of Jordan's at the doorway that I simply had to throw them on. I went outside and floated down the shore and flirted with girls and there were these vivid colors of light that swirled over and around the beach it was very beautiful.

In the last dream I'm going to talk about I had a conscious exit during a dream again. Thought I was really in the RTZ. Flew out my window. Flew around everywhere very fast. Anyways, eventually I realized I was dreaming and I wanted to go to the astral so what I tried to do was visualize a completely new environment. When I did this the environment of my dream collapsed leaving me standing in a white void. When I tried to recreate the environment there was like a painting canvas that appeared and what I was trying to visualize would just appear on the canvas. I imagined a blue ocean with a sun and it appeared on the canvas. Maybe I would've been able to step into it I don't know. I woke up after that.

I feel like those dream conscious exits were happening to get me used to the idea of separating and being out of body. Has anyone experienced anything like this?

I've also had a few other false awakenings and double false awakenings but they were not as fun as those last 3. Anyways even though I haven't had a lucid dream in a long time, and not really trying to have one, it would still be beneficial to know how to phase out of one into the 3D blackness or the astral. How do you go about doing this? Focusing on a part of the dream hasn't worked for me.. the environment collapses and I wake up. I've tried to read other ways to do it but I just couldn't understand what they were talking about at the time.
#4
I can have a traditional oobe if I really put the time and effort into it; so if I try to have a conscious exit I see results, however minimal they might be. However, posts from this forum, Robert Monroe, Bruce Moen, and Rosalind Mcknight, not to mention numerous others, all confirm that if you phase, then you are more likely to not encounter any type of negativity. Also, I cannot currently replicate a conscious exit oobe whenever I try and it is more of a spontaneous thing, whereas I feel with phasing I would have more control of when I could phase and the whole experience of projection.

I use the Monroe model of phasing and whenever I try to phase I start to see the blackness move before my eyes. To elaborate, I place intent to experience an altered state of consciousness and then I begin to count from 1 to 10. At that time I immediately begin to feel the effects of energy entering the bottom of my left foot and my left palm as my body begins to numb slightly and relax.

After some time (usually about 20 minutes) I then count to 12. At this time the 2D blackness before my closed eyes begins to 'sway' and 'swirl'. Some areas are darker than others. Then, like a wave of blackness will wash over from the left to the right, and then from the right to the left of my field of vision, and after awhile what seems to be a gray circle will start to form where they meet in the middle. I do not know what to do after I get to this point. Is there anyone with a similar experience? What do I do next?... What is your take on what I should do at this point?

Sometimes I feel like I should try to push my awareness forward into the circle as if it's some kind of portal or tunnel but that never seems to work and only ends the experience (the 2D blackness stops swirling and/or passing over my field of vision and becomes regular again). Trying to focus on the movement of the 2D blackness, or control the movement, seems to end the experience as well. Excessive thinking seems to end the experience also (it's okay to think, just not over think). If I begin to count deeper, like from 12 to 21 or higher, I fall deeper into relaxation and 'trance' (trance is not the proper word here but I have no other way of describing it), the blackness before my eyes stop moving, and I feel more of a rush of finer energy entering my body. I then lay there until I become bored and/or uncomfortable and abort the attempt to phase or project altogether, or I fall asleep.

I have read one thing about someone having a similar experience. They said the gray swirls would turn into colors of blue, purple, and gold which would then form a tunnel they would go through and would end up in the astral. That doesn't seem to happen for me. The gray swirls don't change color (maybe my energy is too low? The person did say they did years of energy work) and has yet to form a tunnel I could go through. I feel like phasing could work for me because I'm seeing this swirling blackness, which means I'm getting some kind of result... something is happening... I just don't know what to do next... I don't know how to take advantage of it. Sometimes I think it may be energy I'm just not perceiving properly with the faculties of my mind. I can almost always produce the experience of the swirling blackness so if I figured out what to do next or how to project from that point I would be able to almost always project. I would have more control of the experience instead of the experience controlling me and would be a lot more confident and carefree.

There's only been one time I've had a conscious exit where the experience wasn't completely intense. During that experience I seemed to sink within myself at which point I started to rise up from my chest and then began to separate and ended up in the astral equivalent of the physical realm (the RTZ). There were no vibrations accompanied with this experience. Every other time it is so effing intense with the vibrations etc. that I just abort the experience altogether because it makes me feel I have very little control of the experience. I don't like to project from my dreams because I can never tell if I projected into a recreated dream environment or an astral environment; so when I lucid dream I usually just fly around until the experience ends. These are the reasons I'm being rather patient until I can learn how to phase then project, but I've been stuck at this focus 12 2D blackness thing for awhile, well over a year now.

When Frank Kepple would phase he would encounter the 3D blackness of focus 21 at which point he would place intent and phase to say, focus 27, for example, and then would project into that 'environment'. I view this as the ideal situation. For example, Frank was never able to control where he ended up in the astral until he started to phase, and then he had more control of where he ended up when he would phase and then project. For me, I feel like once I get to focus 12 I'm getting off on the wrong exit which just takes me back to the physical. However, Frank didn't start phasing until after he had a whole lot of experience of conscious projection (Although, I know this isn't necessary because of Bruce Moen). But when he would have a traditional oobe he would end up way past the RTZ into some random astral environment and it wasn't until years after.. that he learned how to get to the RTZ through a conscious exit. When I conscious exit I end up in the RTZ which is not where I want to be so I just avoid it altogether.

However, if I were to have a conscious exit, a traditional oobe, while I had on, let's say, focus 27 Hemi-Sync frequencies, do you think I would end up in or be pulled to a focus 27 'environment'? What do you think would happen? Please feel free to share your thoughts and experiences. Thank you.