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Hello everyone.
Sometimes, I still don't know the reason, I feel something very heavy and negative inside my chest and mind. I get very depressed, and my mind gets "noisy" and "clouded". I feel there is something wrong in there, and I really feel like I could just insert my hand in there and grab this negative energy and pull it away. But of course, that is not possible.

So, latelly, after studying a bit of visualization magic (from Franz Bardon), I began to visualize this bad energy comming out as if it was a powerful dark steam. And it works wonders! I feel all this evil and negative energy leaving my mind through the third eye, spraying upwards powerfully, as if it was blowing out all this negative "cloud". The same goes with my heart chakra. Sometimes when its really, really bad, I visualize a spiritual hand entering those chakras, and grabbing balls and orbs of bad energy, and pulling them out. The sensation is amazing!

It's something similar to this, but obviously, comming out of the chest and the forehead (also, the steam is black)



I still don't really know what to do with those energies tho. Once I pulled them out, I press them against the ground and imagine the planet absorbing this dark energy and dissipating it. Is this correct?

Also, I would like your opinions. What is going on with me? Why do I feel these bad sensations?

I never really belived in magic, but right now it seems extremely real to me!

After you've hit the vibration stage you can start moving your astral body through your thoughts. Now, you need to feel the difference between your physical body and your astral body.
Once you can differentiate both you can start moving your astral body little by little, roll out is just basically a normal roll like you would do on the ground, so when you roll out you'd end up on the floor lol.
So when you start moving little by little you can tilt left or right and and you will eventually have a big enough momentum to tell yourself ok now the next tilt I do I can get out of my body.
Some people say it's better to do a full spin, the first times because the separation is hard to achieve, by full spin I mean like you need to have a really good momentum and it will feel a little weird, Like if your astral body was Velcro'ed to your physical body. But once you achieve it you'll know it!
Good luck!

Thanks bro

I notice this is a pretty solid text. The amount of information is really helpful. I will try to keep all this in mind during my practices. Thank you for sharing!

Sorry to ask this, but I am really just a newbie. How do you "roll out" of your phisical body? I recognize you should be in a deep state of trance, but how can you differ your spiritual body from your phisical body, if they are "in the same place"?? I did try to move a few times when I was in the deep trance, to see if I could Project, but I ended moving my phisical body instead and it all went away *sob*

One other idea that might make sense to you is this: The decision to learn how to AP is much more than a simple decision- Do I? or don't I? It is also a decision to advance your personal and spiritual evolution. This is no small thing. So maybe during the last several months you have been having an internal discussion and negotiation going on at a subliminal level, asking and seeking permission and agreement from your many 'selves'. Your conscious, subconscious, and higher self.

There can also be some underlying fear issues or cultural taboos that are having more effect than you realize.

To help with this, try writing out and repeating nightly some positive affirmations to encourage this inner dialogue.

"I give myself permission to have an out of body experience."
"I am confident and safe, knowing that I am protected."
"I ask permission of my higher self to Astral Project."

Just some ideas.

Thank you friend, I will do that. I have been studying and researching about astral projection for 4 years now, but only lately I decided to try it on practice

Try setting the stage, just as you have and just relax back and let what's going to happen happen.

Every time you attempt to AP, you get a little closer. So, never take that as failure.

One day you will be doing exactly what you are now and all of a sudden you will find yourself there. You can't rush the process, But with practice, patience and perseverance, you can improve on it though! 

Thank you very much, friend, your words are very inspiring. It is good to see such a noble soul around here

Hello everyone. I have been practicing Astral Projection for 6 months now, but still can't leave my body. I see I am getting closer, tho.
I lay down on the bed, and close my eyes. Then I let my thoughts calm down, and begin to clear my mind (sometimes using mantras). Then I lose the feeling of my limbs, specially my arms. I begin to feel soft vibrations all over my body, as if it was trembling or shaking. After that, my body gets really heavy, as if I can't move it, and I feel it expanding and contracting as I breath. I sometimes feel as if my body was weightless, floating above my bed. Golden images and runes begin to appear in my mind, and sometimes I hear sounds as well. But that is it. That is as far as I can go. Nothing else happens, and it has been like this for months. I read on the internet that after the Vibrational State, you just have to leave your body. It sounds so easy, but I dont know how to do it. I have tried many exit method, such as the rope or rolling around the bed, but I cant move my spiritual body. Another day I tried so hard to move that I ended up moving my Phisical body and everything stopped. Today I tried to meditate with my eyes open to see if I cold get a better result. So I focused on a spot at the wall, and then everything began to get blurred and shinny. I felt my body sleeping, and everything at my room seemed to gain an "aura" of different colors, but I still couldn't exit my body or move my spiritual body, even after 30 minutes at that state.
So, finally, what am I doing wrong? Could anyone give me a clue on what I could do to finally realize what I am missing? Thanks in advance

Edit: I forgot to mention that I am practicing 2, sometimes 3 times per day. As soon as I wake up, around 3 or 4 PM, and before sleeping. Could this influence in a good, or bad way?

Tell you what... instead of worrying about "when" to "get out", just keep doing what you were doing when you started noticing the projection signposts.

Vibrations are just one such signpost... it's one that reads, "keep doing what you're doing, because you're on the right path".

Read the signpost, understand the signpost, then move past the signpost.  Dwelling on the signpost will stop you dead AT the signpost.

So, just keep doing what you were doing... continue deepening your awareness AWAY this everything physical and you won't have to worry about "exiting".

As Lionheart says... RELAX, RELEASE, LET GO and ALLOW it to occur. 

You are amazing.
That was exactly what I needed to read. Thank you very much

Well, mostly everyone...

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except Tricky-cross-eyed Pete the sandwich thief. Tricky Pete doesn't have so many friends these days.

Holy smokes! *jumps off from the ship with my sandwich*

I don't see how taking someone's experience to study and base yourself at can be bad. Take Einstein, for example. Thousands of cientists still have their foundations heavily based on Einstein's ideals and discoveries, and there is nothing wrong with that. The man gave a huge leap toward the future, as he was ahead of his time. It would be bad not to use what he learned.

I think this fits with Emanuel Swedenborg. And the way he sees and explain things is fantastic

I loved it! A really good explanation between the things that can happen when we try to have OBE.

Thanks guys

This seems amazing. I can't wait to watch it

Hello everyone. I am new around. I have been intrigued by astral projections since a few years ago, and I am really glad I found this forum. I hope I can make new friends, share experiences and learn a bunch of new things.
Best regards to everyone, and have a great new week!