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Event:

A short one: I get lucid in the Void and express my wish to do a retrieval again. I somehow land in a garden area. There are several people and I first wonder. I address the nearest one to me who is a a gardener / garden worker (older, end of 50s or around 60) doing his job by cutting some bushes. 
He instantly complains that his employer is not good and pays badly. Somehow he seems to be a contractor employed with a temp agency.
I tell him I have experience with working for temp agencies (not a lie, I did so many years ago) and I know a better one with fair pay and treatment.
I say that luckily even now there is a guy around the corner who is actually a recruiter for this better company. Then the recruiter (I already assume it's the guide) somehow quickly 'joins' us and starts talking to the man. They seem to get along and are making inroads. They walk off and then turn around the corner of a house and I feel my job is done.

Comments:

It was so short because a handover is happening asap when the guide (recruiter in this case) is nearby and ready, which they always seem to be in these cases.  It's an advantage for projectors like me who have not too many time at their disposal due to the impending instant fade-out threat.
So, besides the train station where I can help children board trains (see above for another retrieval), this seems to be the most ideal situation for me since it works so swiftly.
PS: If he is still into gardening, I hope he can now do it in the Park in Focus 27.

Just perusing some old threads and I feel that this one here needs a "bump". I'm sure that some of the newer members here could share a story or two themselves as well!

Not really "new" round here as you know but had not posted this here yet although it is 'old' and was posted elsewhere. So to fill the gap until new members post something, here we go (again): It's with a link and quotation from my (now rather sleepy) Astral Blog and even the 'original' post at Robert Bruce's forum back in 2011 (wonder why it is still there after his passing):

https://astral-blog.weebly.com/blog/first-induced-obe-with-kundalini-symptoms

https://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?11852-Sinera-s-Lucidiary&p=96617#post96617

First Induced OBE With Kundalini-Symptoms

2/14/2018

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Note: This is a copy and in most cases edited/updated version of the original post on my Astraldynamics Journal. The original link is to be found here.

21/Nov/2009

Mid-November, two months on, what had happened in the meantime? Well, not much. But I read a book.

Only a week after the surgery, I browsed Amazon and probably by some (divine? / higher self?) intuition instead of searching for books on NDE, which would only have been understandable and which I also did at later points in time, I typed 'out-of-body' into the search field. (Btw, Astral Projection was not a term I knew a lot about then, I heard it but did not even relate it to OBE, but rather to sth like dreams, a kind of clairvoyance or even meditation (all of which is not even entirely wrong, of course).)
Almost naturally, Buhlman's book "Adventures Beyond The Body" (in German it is even "Out Of Body") came first. I bought it and read it. I was absolutely astounded how "simple" it seemed to be and that you could really "walk" through your living room as a non-physical being, and all that not just when you were "near death".

I did the induction exercises (combined visualisation/tactile practice and affirmation). Only after a few days of finishing the book and starting the practice, very early I had those talked about "energy sensations" during the night: I heard strange sounds, remember a lifted stiff arm (I think Buhlman also mentions it in a list of possible 'events') and had inner 'energetic' jumps and movements - all while in bed sleeping or in hypnagogia or when waking up from it. I knew now I was in for more.

This lucadventure might be categorised as a very classic RTZ-OBE. However, and that makes it interesting, it is 'framed' by a lucid dream conversion and a postlude False Awakening (semi-lucid) dream. So we have 3 'classics' in one pack. (After an NDE-type experience 2 months prior to this, I now already had received a huge bag of non-physical experience ... not so bad for a first-timer, huh? )

1) Dream Conversion

I dream that I am flying a familiar street of my old hometown uphill, approx. 3 metres above the ground, which leads to the street of my parent's home. In physical life, I have went and cycled (as child and schoolboy) and later driven it up with my car countless times.
However, suddenly one thing really strikes me then. Not the fact that I am flying. It is rather the fact of HOW I am flying. I am making swimming movements (breaststroke). I notice that this is so utterly stupid and funny alike. Why am I SWIMMING through the air instead of 'normally' flying? At this very instant, this observation literally TRIGGERS my exit sensations, and something starts that I will never in my life forget.

2) Out-Of-Body exit / RTZ-projection

The view changes drastically. I am lucid. And I see the ceiling of my bedroom. Strange thing is that the room appears to be with the light on. I see everything clearly. I am lying on the back (unusual for me) and I also see one arm lifted (again!). It is stiff, I cannot move it, it is fixed up in the air. I also don't really feel it, it is like an alien part or an artificial limb attached to my (otherwise also paralysed but still 'felt') body. But I also don't want to change anything about it.. I want out and I know it has started now. "It" is, besides my new view, the 'energy sensations' I feel.

However they are NOT the famous 'vibrations' at all. I did not know these vibrations then. Only later I did. Today, I know them well, of course, and I can say that this was VERY VERY different! Those WERE NO VIBRATIONS at all!

Sorry if this bores you now a bit, but I need to try to give a description as detailed as possibly, becausee I have a suspicion now of what it could have been, which I could not have known either then or during the following days and events, due to a lack of knowledge about these matters. I will enlarge upon my question later in the Comments section, but now first my attempt to render a detailed description of what I felt and then mistook as 'common vibrations' (what a joke from today's POV). I have, so far for me, not read ANY account on exit sensations here or elsewhere that has stated anything similar to this, which makes my inquiry even more urgent now as it was then.

As said, those 'energy sensations' were nothing like vibrations. Those were BALL-LIKE WAVES along the SPINE. Heavy, violent and almost disruptive as it seemed. Not from head to toe but only through my torso (neck to lower intestines / genital area). I cannot conclusively remember anymore if they went up-down (from neck area on downwards) or vice versa. It could have gone either way or even with a changing of directions.
I did NOT feel any pain. Just movement. Possibly I heard roaring, crackling, sizzling, rustling sounds which more or less correlated with the intensity of the wave-balls' movements. One wave going through my body lasted possibly 1 - 1.5 seconds. The 'low-tide' intervals probably 1 to 2 seconds on average. Sometimes the intensities varied. I tried to give it a graphic expression here, you see it is not absolutely regular, intervals for the pauses (-) as well as for down- or upward moving wave 'blobs' (O, o, 0) vary:

--O--O---o----O---0--o---O--O--o--> (time direction)

There are two words I would like to use to describe the whole movement: Orgasmic/Ejaculative and Peristaltic. But all that without the respective body feelings (unfortunately in the first case ).
So it was as if my torso would have been a great GIANT PENIS at the very moment of ejaculation or a part of the digestive system while it's transporting and processing its content in peristaltic muscle movements.
Another good way to compare it to would be strong electric jolts, but again and - in this case fortunately - without any feelings, just the "movement".

Again just to give an impression on what is meant by 'peristaltic' (mostly used in connection with pumps or the human digestive system), consider it like shown on the graph or the video, but only much much faster (1 wave-interval per 1-2 second or so):
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So I hope you get the idea of what I went through - or better: what went through me - then!

And I was and still am sure it was 'not physical' at all. (How could it be ??! This is not the nervous system. I also should have felt pain then, I should have been bursting into parts! Any scoffers should explain it to me or better try experience this for themselves, and then they will admit: "this stuff is f***** real!")

What is even more strange, and it makes me marvel about myself (and I am not a warrior-type of guy!): I stayed completely calm. I let it happen. Maybe there was a kind of attitude involved telling me sth like "hey, you begged for it, so here we go, now don't complain and grit your teeth and get to it!". Maybe it was still due to my hypnagogic / trance-like state. But why did I not get out of it?
And that is not the entire story. I also endured it (knowing that it would ease off soon) because it was somehow FAMILIAR. It is a "I've-been-there-before"-feeling. But why and how? Discussion see below.

After it waned (or even when it was gone completely, not sure anymore) I started to lift. Possibly the subconscious reason for my lifted arm then was that I wanted to use it as a kind of 'launch ramp' all the time. That's another hint to a strange familiarity .. as said, this was my first conscious and deliberate projection, I had not done this before.

So I went out and the first thing to note is: The room was dark again as I slowly soared to my room's ceiling. I looked ahead then for the short time I looked at the wall and ahead again, the ceiling (immersed in darkness now again) before me.

It should be noted, I also had a strange voice when talking to myself shortly (or "thinking aloud"), it was somehow vibrating, sounding high and modulated (not the human-like female voice, that's a different story again). I don't remember anymore what I said to myself then, possiby some "oh"s or "ah"s only. That, however, again, was not orgasmic either.

Now the next funny thing: I stopped at the ceiling. And I did not know what to do. Then the idea to just "turn around". Turning around of what? Of me. But what is me? I have no idea if I had a "body" then because I had not paid attention to it/myself. I was just a cloud or point of consciousness during the whole exit.

Then I just "turned around" (no, it seemed I did not have the purported 360 degrees vision, I really shifted somehow). Looking down where me in the bed should have been I first only saw darkness. Then I concentrated (thinking also about BUhlman's short commands such as 'clarity now' or 'vision now'). After a while I could see a figure lying there on the side (not on the back). After a while I also could make out the face clearly. It was me. I looked pale in the darkness, almost a bit like a moon face.

But you know what striked me most about this, even today when I remember it (and which is possibly also responsible for the moon face appearance)? The kind of picture that really clings to my memory now that first comes to my mind when I remember this event, making this an almost iconic representation of this whole lucidventure:
The very weirdness of SEEING YOUR OWN FACE WITH CLOSED EYELIDS. I looked so 'strange' (in a double sense) that I even did not clearly recognise myself for a second because of this 'alienating' view. When do we see ourselves with closed eyelids? Logically, we don't in mirrors. On photo snapshots when we were blinded by flashlights or on surprise snapshots possibly. But "live" at the same instant? This picture sticks with me, probably for the rest of this life! I will never forget the picture of that guy that is me down there in the bed 'asleep' with closed eyelids. Even today, I count this experience among the top-ten of strange sensations and experiences of my adventures.

After I had 'identified' myself without the slightest doubt, which was otherwise not so difficult since all was 'realistic' and there were no dream imagery or reality fluctuations involved, I decided (wisely and as recommended for newbies) to cut it short and 'go back' immediately. I just went down, which was then much faster than going up.
However, before I re-integrated, another remarkable observation. First, for a split-second I saw my face 'close-up'. Secondly, I heard my breathing (exhale) - but different, as if still somehow from the outside.

3) False Awakening

I got up and went into the bathroom. I passed some time there, also looking at myself into the mirror. All looked normal. I reflected on the things passed now. I was happy at my success of 'astral projecting'. Then, only after quite a while, I thought to myself 'hey, why not go to my parent's bedroom now, and wake them and tell them what happened?'. Then I realised what a strange idea this was. (Possibly it was caused by the dream I had before about flying to my parent's home). Why did I say that? I was an adult now and I had not live with my parents in their home for many many years now. Then I realised that I was still dreaming and woke up.

Analysis / Afterthoughts

First of all, sorry, I will keep further posts on lucidventures much much shorter. I just felt the need to enlarge upon this, since it was my first 'projection', and due to all those circumstances and detailed memory. Therefore I restrict this section (although much more would be to say for me here) only to the issues of FAMILIARITY and KUNDALINI.

The issue of FAMILIARITY with those waves amazes me even today. Perhaps, in our super/sub-conscious memories and as reincarnating beings, we all "know" this already since it is similar to what happens when we die. Or perhaps I had/did this as a child in this life and just don't remember. Or I was a keen projector in a previous life. Or Perhaps I really only thought that THIS were the famous vibrations I read about (what a joke!). But today I know there were NO VIBRATIONS. Those were different. I had only one further experience like this a few days later. After the again-violent exit it failed due to exit blindness and fear issues.
Fear issues also kept me from going on then. I read more books on the topic. Monroe's first book actually increased my fears, it was so different from Buhlman's optimitic take on the issue. Then I read Bruce's Astraldynamics and while I did so, I sometimes had the feeling that I was falling out of my body in waking state! That was enough for me! I actually decided to have a break of a few months, not trying anything. I needed a rest (who should blame me after all that, I had my proper dosage, after all)? So I slammed the door shut again at the end of the year and I did not have any experiences (Sometimes I even affirmed "I stay inside my body" before sleeping!).

Maybe someone more experienced in this matter can answer this. Recently I came to suspect that it might actually have been a KUNDALINI-like experience (note the added "-like", please!). Here, people also report on spine-related 'snake'-like heavy energy sensations. If you look at the video I linked, you see that 'peristalctic' movement is indeed pretty 'snaky' if seen from a specific angle. But they also tell of body cramps and even danger of life. I did not feel this way although the waves also had a 'crampy' aspect to them. Of course, since mainly the torso was affected, it is highly likely for me that the energy was using a 'channel' that leads up/down the physical spine through which the 'awakened' energy was streaming in brutal thrusts of different intensity.
I could so far not really bother to dig deeper into the topic of Kundalini. If someone can tell me it is NOT Kundalini-related, I am fine. I wasn't keen on any Kundalini-experience so far. And if it was Kundalini, well, so be it, but I am even less keen to live through this again for understandable reasons. Two times is enough and I am happy in the end that later (according to logfile starting Feb 2010) I discovered that 'vibrations' are something very very different from that!

Welcome! 

There are many dates given for the end of Kali Yuga. It's confusing.

Yes, I've read here and there too that it would be 'soon' or even 'now' (this year) and a positive shift will be occurring then but there are other (hindi, astronomical, etc.) sources that state something very differently.

I am not at all a Wikipedia fan for many reasons, but there it says it will be in the year 428,899 CE. So we would need to wait 'a little' longer. 

This weekend I happened to watch the German qualification show for that infamous "Eurovision Song Contest" (in May this year).
The candidates had to play cover versions for this first round. Some did some surprisingly cool stuff even though (or because?) it was very different from the originals.

(admittedly I don't know the original here:)

Years ago I was on a market place and decided to try a chocolate cake. Did not have pay for it (no currency in the astral needed I suppose). The trader just gave it to me.

It tasted a bit like chocolate indeed but also somewhat peculiar and 'awkward' in a a way. Hard to describe.

I think that eating is one of the things we are in the physical to experience. And 'astral taste' shows us why. 

Don't know if it might help: A special page 'Frank Kepple resource' already exists here on the Astral Pulse: https://astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

It's not wrong to make plans and have goals. It's only human and thus only 'normal'. But it is very right to say that you should not be 'attached' to the outcome because that is an 'attachment' of sorts and it is best to avoid that.

So yes, as the saying goes: the 'way is the goal' or 'the journey is the reward' is very true.

Manifestation happens in the present moment accompanied by positive emotion when we 'envisage' the 'goal' of being in the 'Now' already. We need not be 'attached' to past failures (or successes) nor to future outcomes (again: good or bad).

You know the funny thing is, I get those "phantom doorbells" too during Hypnagogia, but my actual doorbell doesn't work, and I still get "punked" by it. Lol!     

Same here!!    Forgot to mention it but I even dismantled the doorbell myself about 3 years ago because it always startled me and I can't stand it at all. If s.o. pushed it nowadays you would only hear a very soft humming sound at all, so the sound is 'historic' and yes, I get 'punked' and even more startled by it too.
What I get a lot recently is the front door being slammed. But no one used it when I check.

My hypnogogic occurrences typically consist of a loud "Hey!" which then leads to lots of wall scratching and occasional thumping sounds. No doorbells yet. Lots of visuals though.

I often get my first name called. Sometimes by known voices (e.g. recently my mother, she's alive still, so I suspected a telepathic origin), sometimes by voices I don't know.

I get knocks and doorbells a lot. Sometimes voices calling me. But it all happens exclusively in hypnagogic state. It is not physical in my case. When I then get up and check I find nothing.

I interpret it as a message of s.o. from the non-physical trying to communicate with me. The doorbell or phone ringing is probably a literal 'call' from otherwhere.

A good and happy time to everyone once again! 

Welcome Ajay, hope you will like it round here. 

For me it's currently Metal of different subgenres, mostly Progressive and Mystic/Spiritual Metal such as e.g. Tool, Opeth, Gojira, etc.
But also (Alternative, Classic or Progressive) Rock.
As a specialty I love Nordic (Viking) Folk like Wardruna (saw them live in concert last week and it was breathtakingly awesome).

Interesting! I see teal and grey...but with a really faint, underlying pink behind the grey.

Same result here. I think my tendency is left-brained though (I'm an artist and musician) but I also have this 'analytical' or 'rational' side in me and actually therefore consider myself kinda 'whole-brained'.   

hi im new here my name i TIB. ive been trying to astral project for 2 years with full effort now
the first things i tried was doing it with wbtb and waking up at night disrupting my rem cycle
ive been doing my practice with meditation for the last 8 months because i have severe chronic pain so i have to meditate to keep the pain under control a bit so i was like why not try to astral project  while meditating
and now im at the point that i always get to the point im in 3d blackness but i cant seem to exit
so if anyone has some tips or anyting i can try reply to my message

Being in the 3D-Blackness (The Void) suggests you are actually already 'kind of' projected. If you want to leave the Void to enter a certain reality you can e.g. hold your astral hands of your energy body before you and clap or rub them against each other. If that is difficult because you still don't feel a 'body' then first imagine it. Then after a few seconds often the area brightens up (sometimes slowly) and you fade into an astral scenario of your (mostly subconscious) choice. At least that's how it worked for me quite often.

I feel like Adrian. It's definitely also Monty Python and Fawlty Towers for me. John Cleese is my favourite (English-speaking) comedian. 'MP and the Holy Grail' will always be my fav comedy movie.

Also loved the 'Naked Gun' movies.

But hey ... So far no mention of "The Office"? 

Well, maybe one has to have worked for some years in a white-collar office environment like me. I loved it. Great mockumentary satire.

The British original version with Ricky Gervais (also one of my fav international comedians) is my favourite.

However, it shares #1 with... (drum roll ...) the German version called 'Stromberg' - which I assume nobody knows here, but believe it or not, it was really good, but also very 'different', and they even made a crowd-funded cinema movie in the end.

The US version is also good, at least the first seasons I liked. I loved the  crazy character Dwight Schrute!, but the show altogether is only on rank #3 for me. And the latter seasons weren't any good imv. They had lost momentum.

Don't know the other country versions as they are all only in their origin languages of course, and there's quite a few! See here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Office

However, there is another English language brand-new Australian version out now. I watched the first season on Amazon Prime only 2 weeks ago but I have to say it was rather disappointing. Reviews also were not too good (IMDB has a 4.4 out of 10 rating). Maybe it is too much of a cheap (late) copy of the US version, or maybe the franchise in general has run out of steam by now. (Apologies if there's any Aussies here, no offence meant, just my honest opinion).

Congrats. Enjoy your journeys into the Astral, The Void, and Beyond. 

I prayed for them to get as much help as they can and as fast as possible.

A literal classic from 2009 I rewatched recently. How unfortunate that Mr Newport discontinued his 'Lucidology' videos (his website still exists though).

 

It worked I was completely detached into the dark void. It felt nice to be back there. As I kept letting go into the void. The once again familiar purple vortex began unfolding. I was falling in the vortex, wondering if I ever will make my way through it (I have tried before but never do). It was nice being there, but I woke up just as the purple vortex began to stengthen. I wonder if I will ever find out where it leads or what it is. I've been in it before.

First of all, welcome back. 

Some comments on the purple vortex topic:

A time ago I had some experiences with the purple vortex/spiral/galaxy thing. For me it seemed to indicate a kind of portal or gateway to a network to either other dimensions or planets. An alternative interpretation was that it is a database like an Akashic/Cosmic Wiki because I also experienced the Earth being displayed as a kind of interface to gain information from. Sounds weird I know, it is (or was) another research project of mine but I got stuck with doing other things or nothing due to lack of OBE opportunities (maybe in part also due to life's occassional hurdles and hardships like you have).

Btw, I searched now and re-found the thread I made here almost a year ago about a "purple vortex" in the Void back then (a kind of started "Void 2.0" project for me). Unfortunately so far it was discontinued for the stated reasons above. So if s.o. is interested you may read here:

https://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome-to-out-of-body-experiences!/the-void-part-2-5-years-later-the-videntia-project/

Btw2, I recently had decided to take up this project again and research  the purple void (database/gatweway) a bit more. Maybe it is time again and your post even is another sign for me to go ahead with this.

 

As I remember from my naturopathy as well as medical anatomy / physiology studies, and thus from a more physiological viewpoint the soft eye pressing on the closed eyes helps to activate the Vagus nerve which is part of the Parasympathetic nervous system, which regulates the mode 'rest and digest', as opposed to the mode 'fight and flight' of the Sympathetic nervous system that 'activates' the body.
It makes you more calm and relaxed and so it could indeed also deepen meditation and trance work.
 

Here is the one I downloaded from the Hemisync shop:

https://hemi-sync.com/product/free-flow-27/

I tried it once at night with the WB2B method and I felt that it almost worked. But then fell asleep or got too tired and stopped. But it was promising.
 

As coincidence has it (or not?) for this thread, I resumed the Gateway tapes a few weeks ago and am now at Wave II - 4.

I started this actually almost 15 years ago (early 2010) but then also switched to other methods and had stopped already at Wave I. I used the indirect WBTB projection method then only since with this one I project with success only - til today. 

I have problems with my jaw (CMD/TMD/TMJ or so) and so I have a hard time lying down on my back meditating. This probably (iirc) is what kept me back from continuing then and makes me desperate at times now again when meditating etc. It keeps me from directly projecting (which is the Gatway method for me). Although I also had better sessions recently with a better jaw and less pain and distraction, at least I was in a meditative Focus 10 then, sometimes with hypnagogic imagery, but not more.

I asked for help for my jaw problem from my guides and the Healing Center in Focus 27 where I want to go to soon (I made an appointment, don't laugh, I'm serious with this    ) to solve it for good now. I want to continue this time with the tapes and increased practice, also at night with the WBTB method which yielded some good results recently after a longer dry period. I also do physiotherapy for my jaw and have a manual jaw trainer now (actually it's just like a kind of crown cork which stretches the open mouth, looks ridiculous... but could do some good work).

I have the Monroe 'tapes' all as mp3s on my player in a row and even got Wave 8 now where you go to Focus 27 (there's a longer one called 'free flow in F27 now which is quite new with a new voice of course). Wave I-VII are all the original tapes with Monroe's voice which I love, he was really good at this, so soothing.

Even if I cannot project directly with it I feel that it might still help me with meditation. I won't give up. It is still my dream to be able to project directly one day with binaural beats, meditation or even the Gateway method. But it's hard work for me.

How did you feel when you awoke?

I felt content, satisfied. I felt that it kind of worked since the handover to the guide happened.

I was busy though with rewinding the experience in my mind to memorise as much as I could. Then as next step I got up to jot it all down.
Then back to bed for sleep because I was - of course - still very tired. So no time for 'celebrations' or revelling in emotions. (Maybe I'm meanwhile also too experienced for that, it has become a routine nevertheless, even though the gaps in-between when sth. happens have widened for me).

When I did the write-up the following day I noticed how important the internal 'rewind' and ensuing documentation in writing is because I first had an outline that was shorter, only when I looked at the notes I could add much more from the experience, things I would have forgotten by then. So disciplined journalling is really key.

[Retrieval Of A Lawyer From A 'Confined' Space (Wall / File Cabinet)]

Retrieval Of A Lawyer From A 'Confined' Space (Wall / File Cabinet)

Date: 31-Jul-2024

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I use the Wake-Back-To-Bed strategy after a very long time and it is a success (so I really should do this more often). After several attempts I get lucid in a municipal area finding myself in a city (more of a small town) at daylight. No person in sight. I start walking to search for a retrievee remembering my task of doing retrievals. While I am searching I do not miss the opportunity to complain and 'scold' my invisible guide(s) for wasting my limited ludicity-time by not getting me directly to the place I should be.

After a short while I walk past a local cemetery. I do not remember if I entered the graveyard but suddenly get the image of a younger woman with dark hair looking at me and saying 'I have a gun and I shoot!'. It is not certain if she was threatening me directly or if her words were directed at me at all. The vision vanishes and I move on.

Then I am in a house, still demanding to be shown the retrievee. Then I see to my left on a table a kind small model of another house but it is in ruins and it seems somehow burnt down or exploded. I even see it as a kind of animated form, a 'hologram' of  a house rising up and then falling or burning down again, like it was a movie on a loop.

Then I enter in a kind of office room. To the left is a kind of wall cabinet that is huge. I get the feeling it is or was for keeping files. However as the door opens I see a woman inside. I identify her as the same women from before but now with blonde hair and a bit older (middle-aged, 40-50 years maybe).

I then notice that she has no gun this time but still seems somewhat hostile towards me, or at least cold and distant. I also realise the presence of a guide. He is waiting in the corridor leading to the room and not visible to the lady who is still standing (hiding) in this wardrobe or cabinet in that room. He is dressed in white like a doctor or a paramedic while I notice about myself that I am also clad in white.

Then he tells me (whispering into the room): 'Take care what you say, she is a lawyer'. So I interpret this as a recommendation that I need to carefully weigh my words since these professional law people reading all the legal texts might be pedantic and fussy with anything you say or just be overcritical in general.

Knowing this now I face her and start to talk. I do not remember exactly what was being said. Maybe I asked her what she is doing there but also remember I said something along the lines of 'violence is never a solution' (referring to the vision with the gun).

She is seemingly recognising me as a professional of the medical kind due to my attire. I also seem to have somehow conveyed to her the impression that I am not here to harm her but to help. There also seems to be the notion of a 'psychological' or 'psychiatric' problem (also since she is not hurt physically). Maybe that is why she then asked me this question: 'So are you or is there any professional (psychiatrist?) around to help?'.

Immediately I jump at the chance. 'Yes, here is Mr [invented a name] and he is a specialised doctor who can help you with your problem'. The guide then enters the room. I notice that he is actually crawling because suddenly it looks like the entire room was even more confined now with a lowered ceiling, I also seem to be crouched now. He (still young and shining in his white attire, with long dark hair, dressed as a doctor) starts talking to her, smiling and asking questions.

Unfortunately I do not remember any of their 'consultation'. I try to stay anchored in the scene looking at my hands as a technique for stabilizing myself. After a while however I know it is futile and I slowly fade out of the room entirely. Since the handover worked and the 'doctor' guide was now taking care of her I do so with a good feeling. I wake up immediately to take notes.

Analysis

Most of the time the scenes were bizarre and dream-like for me. So I conclude that this was the enclosed and private dream-space of the retrievee (in Focus 22), at least after I entered the 'house'.

I don't know why my first impression when waking up was that this lady actually had shot herself (or was shot?). I discarded the suicide or murder version leaving it as one possibility now. Maybe the shown 'hologram' of a burnt down, collapsed or exploded house could also be an explanation but then the gun does not make sense anymore. Maybe she died in a house being bombed in a war or terror attack or it was just a home-related accident?

I opted for 'lawyer' in the account, but the guide actually used the word 'Juristin' for her, which is translatable as 'female jurist' in English. So the most likely case is she was indeed an attorney but also could have been a legal counsel or judge. However, that does not change my assessment regarding the situation and her personality.

The gun and her being a 'jurist' as well as her strange and comical dwelling in the file cabinet could also be a metaphorical expression of her being so overcritical with information and express her data-driven rationality. This in turn might be a contributing factor to her self-isolation after her (violent?) death. Maybe her job (and life) as a very rational person also seems to point out her materialistic and atheistic views keeping her from breaking out of her 'mind prison' now. Many recently deceased people cling to their lives and even job lives after death.

Another explanation of her rather comical habitation is that it actually symbolised her lying in a coffin. The later lowering of the ceiling with me and the guide in a crouching and crawling situation might also be a hint. Furthermore I've read a few retrievals from graves by now, so it is possible. Rational and atheist / materialist people seem to cling to their dead bodies for a while, especially after a traumatic death. After all this could be a good explanation for the graveyard I passed (or entered?!) before I met her in her own dream-space in F22.

Enough thoughts on this. I decided to do the WB2B method more often from now on. It might get the ball rolling again for me regarding OBEs and retrievals in particular.