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In the most basic level of the astral you are living in your own mental reality of the world. Frank called this the 'training zone' Here things, people, and memories tend to mix and amalgamate into a dream like experience. It is your intent that drives the plot of the story, so a happy intent will make your experience brighter and a fearful intent will make your experience darker.

In muddier projections, you don't have much control over your intent. I have found it is very easy to get into a nightmare like domino effect where fear begets a darker experiences, which begets fear, which creates a darker experience and so on. However in the more crisp projections you'll realize that you can change your emotional disposition towards something on a dime. it just takes conscious effort.

I would say that you were simply having a basic astral experience, some of your stronger memories came to the surface, and your intent was wielded, well, I don't think you know how to wield it effectively yet. haha.  I took me quite a bit. Don't fret Just keep practicing and it will come. Familiarity will give you more control on every level of your experiences.
I try not to read too much into any experience that I can tell was manifested in my own F21 'reality field' (think of it like your personal & exclusive BST) It is the ones where you don't know anyone of the thousands of entities in the very detailed radical landscapes that you need to carefully dissect.

Best of luck on your training.

Cheers,
Contenteo

Haha, its funny how those obvious things don't click into our minds when we are 'in the zone', so to speak.

I have heard all sorts of music while in F21. Once I ran to the piano after a OBE and was able to play the tune(I am a composer too) it was an eerily haunting, but beautiful soft ballad of sorts. I wish I recorded it because like most memories from dreams, the song faded hours after the experience was over.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[I think loss of fear of death is one of the greatest practical uses of phasing.]

I think loss of fear of death is one of the greatest practical uses of phasing.

I think it is worth mentioning that the resolute acceptance of death (The way of the hidden leaves) was a prerequisite for an individual to truly consider themselves a samurai. Miyamoto Musashi called this the Way of the Warrior. I think this applies even to this day. Just the amount of information overload makes it more difficult for society to respect the sacrifice it takes to cultivate this mentality.

Most people form NDEs return with a different persepctive, and ability to live MORE in the moment. The ability to relish. 
I think that this is another side affect of phasing that comes alongside the loss of fear of death.

Best to all in their endeavors.

Cheers,
Contenteo

['push]

You can't really 'push' to get to the astral, you can only set up the correct conditions to be 'pulled' into the astral.

Pushing is helpful to learn the 'lay of the land.'
All the most effective methods of phasing tap into passive visualization, or said in another way, setting your focus in the right 'direction'/'mode' to allow the phase to occur.

Trying doing what you usually do, just set aside your expectations, get deep and then just enjoy being there, enjoy being in that state of mind.

Forget about the physical and you'll be in the astral before you know it. 

Cheers,
Contenteo

Sounds like an f23 experience to me.
Those are entities that have passed on, but are clinging to the physical still. Its always an amazing location that is easily described as, the person's been sitting in there with the power to create whatever they want for just way too long.
Usually they are excited to show you around and mingle for a bit. I didn't like them at first(f23 experiences) but they grow on you with time. The designs ate always so outrageous,

In f21, usually you have more autonomy over your surrounding reality, and faces are familiar.
It is possibly to ebb in and out between f21 and f23.

Cheers,
Contenteo

You projected into your mental model of your parents house. You weren't actually there. I am sure the layout was the same, but the furnishings slightly different.

The mirror weirdness is common. As creepy as it is. Whenever I get a chance to see my body in projections, theirs always something messed up with it. So much for self image. Haha. Yeah, and mirror never worked for me in there.

Best

Cheers,
Contenteo

Yup, that is absolutly a project. IMO, there is no such thing as directly visiting this plane of reality through projection. People project into their mental models of reality and quickly assume, because of the similarities, that it must be this reality. Their are many variations of the way you life exists in your mind. Greeks called these mental palaces. The structure of the 'lower astral' you visit is most often correct in terms of walls and doorways, however furniture and decor is usually much different.
It's amazing vivid, isn't it? And your memories. They are as palpable as your waking ones, even Moreso sometimes.

This is not to say there isn't a deeper. There definitely is.
If you want to go deeper, look into BSTs, belief system territories.
When these realities start getting many independent entities that are beyond your 'intent control', usually in much vaster areas too, you've made it. There are plenty of juicy articles in the archives on this.

Cheers,
Contenteo

I could imagine your experience may have had a dose sleep paralysis alongside it right before you were booted out. Nowadays I AP, even when I don't want to. Sometimes the realization that I am out of body escalates when a fear is introduced. A feeling of sleep paralysis is soon to follow. Usually the fear is 'sneaking up behind me' out of sight. In these cases, either convince yourself that it's all your own doing, there is nothing there or to fear, this is the truth. Or simply wiggle your toe. That'll boot you out nice and safe.

Fear is rough when you start, I wish you a few awesome experiences soon. Once you have a few good ones, you'll be in much better shape to trend good all time. Keep up the practice.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[The goal now is to learn to be passive.]

Yup. I am going to echo Szaxx here.

I have been where you are. The goal now is to learn to be passive. You have strengthened your mind a tremendous amount to get to this stage.( I am sure you are seeing some sort of payoff in daily life too  )
Now its time to learn to let go. It's time to learn to relax and let yourself fall into what you are experiencing. You've filled the cup, now empty it.

I can't give you instruction for this part either, any 'doing' would be going about your struggle in the wrong way. It is by not doing that you will now progress. It is by knowing what doesn't exist along with you in that state that will allow you to become part of that state of mind and WILD.

I could write paragraph on paragraph right now, but I think simply saying that you will now have to experience yourself experiencing another perspective while in that state along what I said above cryptic enough to get you through it. Best of luck...hmmm...or should I say say 'not' luck. 

Cheers,
Contenteo

After projecting for a number of years now, I am convinced that you don't really enter this plane when you project, rather a 'mental palace' that is your internal representation of reality.
An example, the daydream like depiction of the room your in if you closed your eyes and tried to navigate it in the dark.
This is usually the representation closest to where you went to bed. Logically, its the last place you think you were.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci

After coaching a handful of people, I can firmly say, that beginnings very very easily mistake this mental depiction for the actual thing. Why not? I mean its everything that one believes and remembers is there. It should be the real world. Seeing how most folk don't do an intensive study, I can reasonably see why the public at large has this misconception about how process works. Moreso, the taboo nature of this subject makes it difficult to talk about this outside niche areas such as the forum we are in right now.

So, as Volgerle said, we don't claim to be able to do that parlor trick you are asking. That's a job for someone claiming to be a 'remote viewer'.
However, I have my doubts about them to. I think they are simply projecting and confusing their ability to control intent and get confused about what's tangible and what's not.

Astral projection is much more like the bubbles floating up in a 7-up can. Focus enough and relax yourself sufficiently. You'll float right to the top.
As Father Guido Sarducci explains:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/0AKvRvL5r3A?rel=0

But, yeah, for real, he's not too far off in my mind. F21 F22 F23 F24 F25...etc. How big is the bubble? How big is the group norms of the BST?

Cheers,
Contenteo

Yup. Nailed it.

Rubbing your hands together & having a strong intention to go do something. i.e. "I wonder what's up the street? Hmmm, let me go see."

After what Xanth said though, I can see how these things go hand in hand...literally and figuratively. 

Best on staving off the inevitable. 

Cheers,
Contenteo

Take the perspective that the brain, as an organ, has been able to slow time down as evolution has occurred.
Things smaller than us may very well see a faster 'frame rate' of time.

Things faster then the speed of light(the changes in the spin of the particles that are QE) very well may be perceiving time in a completely different manner then us.

I think these are important considerations.

Cheers,
Contenteo

Hey there,

Congrats on being so dedicated for a whole week. My first projection was about 40 days after I first started. So stay persistent

As for the inability to do morning attempts. meh. My firsts were all in the morning. It wasn't until well into my study did I start gaining success at night. However, I did find night was the best time to practice technique. There is some incredible 'paths' you can still go down at night, so keep searching in there (inside you head  ). You'll discover some pretty interesting sensations if you just keep looking.

I would dare say that an afternoon/evening nap is your next best choice. Before I stated A/Ping, I remember having a couple lucid dreams that all happened in late afternoon/evening naps. Try practicing your techniques at night and then give them a go when you get that 'man I really want to go take a nap feeling' I think you'll find the blade of your mind will be sufficiently sharp to pierce worlds.

Keep grinding. Best on your journeys.

Cheers,
Contenteo

I'll second Volgerie.

It sounds like there was some bit of false awakening in those experiences you were having.

As for 'Were you projecting?'

Well, there is many levels of drowsiness that can some when in a dream state. I have experienced all sorts.
I call these projections some times, as I can deduce what is occuring, but I think the true projection state most are after is that ultra crisp one.

I think you'll find that these are unmistakable. The level of awareness in these experiences easily exceeds waking awareness.

Best on your travels, and congrats.

Cheers,
Contenteo

Stop attempting to project before you go to bed.
You're still in new to the discipline. Projecting before you go to bed is convenient but extremely difficult.

Try early morning attempts.

I'll second lightbeam. Well said.

Remember, we are not physical beings having an intangible experience.
We are intangible beings having a physical.

Best on your quest.
If you practice hard and your intentions are strong I feel you will find your way to him.

Cheers,
Contenteo

Your description of what you're doing is a little vague.  I'd hate to diagnose from an underinformed vantage point, but I'll give it a go, regardless.
I'll take a stab at asking if you were focusing upward, toward your crown chakra area, preceding the shakes. Are you? If so, you're jumping the gun. Wait to be in a deeper trance before shifting your focus in that direction. It's helpful that you can do that, just save that trick for a little later. It'll come in handy. 


Cheers,
Contenteo


PS. I say this because sometimes when I focus my 'energy' up there I get the shutters and that could be what you're talking about.

I have found the falling/sinking/melting sensation to be an indicator of entering a F15 state. F15 is Monroe's "no time zone". Once I reach a strong F12, the falling/sinking occurs as the kickoff to a series with a whole bunch of other jazz in the path to a conscious exit OBE. I actually search the melting feeling out as a milestone when I get to that point.

I must note that I have obtained the sinking feeling early in the phasing process and I have had it lead nowhere. My justification for this is, to have success in a conscious exit OBE attempt, it appears one must be in the right mind state and focus level, before 'pulling this trigger.'

I would love to hear some more opinions to this, I've been meaning to make a topic like this for a while. Bravo.

Cheers,
Contenteo

I have found that some sort of early morning attempt or wake up, do some chores, go back to bed and attempt method is the only way to really get some traction in a solid projection. I try most nights but really the results I get usually are moreso a fantastic, extended adventure through a series of vivid environments (F21-F25like). It is some semi-lucid prolonged experience. Sometimes upward of 24, 36, or even 72 hours. A few times it has felt like weeks when I awake. Once it felt like a lifetime. No joke, it took me days to recover.

There is the chance that I do get a projection experience so often with these night attempts, but it is nothing I would consider consistent, or high quality, for that matter. Early morning or afternoon nap is the only place to get sure-fire results if you know what you're doing. When I attempt those I don't know what is going to happen but I know something will.

Keep practicing, stay confident, & best of luck. 

Cheers,
Contenteo

The same feeling that you have one coming out of a falling dream is essentially the exact same sensation when entering from F10 or F12 to F15.

It's a pretty vital sensation to recall if you are going to engage in a conscious exit OBE.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[It's just time for you to try an early-morning drowsy exit.]

I think you're almost there.

It's just time for you to try an early-morning drowsy exit.
Yes, yes, I know, it sucks, but I've always found that the evening is much better for practicing, in the morning is where you really get consistent results. In fact, I look at evening attempts as conscious exit or bust. The non-conscious, evening, exit attempts have more often than not yielded muddled experiences. The projection is def there just the quality is never as high as a morning attempt.

Best of luck.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[Is the Novocaine state mandatory?]

No problem. I am glad you are enjoying this thread and the projection experience.
Okay first you're doing great. Cultivating those tiny 'shorts' is key.

Is the Novocaine state mandatory?
No, I believe everybody engages somewhat in the Novocaine state(ones teeth/jaw feeling asleep- read above)after their awareness has left this physical reality. It's a natural part of sleep paralysis. I have found expecting this, and treating it as a first milestone speeds the whole process up excellently.  My efficacy for leaving body/deep meditation has been hieghtened as well. I should note in all my conscious exit OBE's, it has been instrumental.

Getting to F10 is a breeze for me now. Takes bout 10-12 minutes. Lay there and visualize('shorts' is a great way to explain it) or just be lazy and don't move or think all to much. First your feet feel numb, then your legs, then your midsection, and then your mouth, that is if you allow your teeth to rest. It's much easier to perceive yourself(your own conscious experirnce)slipping into F12 or F15(no time zone) states once Novacaine had been reached.

Nowadays, I find it relativly boring getting to F10 I save all my good techniques for after it's reached. I just find it way easier.

When you get to that state when your body is asleep, should you have control over your physical body to jump up, etc?
Yes, you will. That kill switch, to end projection attempt will always there with you. This is, until youvare actually projecting or in such a deep state, you dont realize anymore. I wouldn't be afraid of it not being there. It will always be there and the thought of that will always be meddling up your process. The trick is to just, not care... Which is very difficult. Remember, any thought of the physical during the transition process will chain you back to the physical.

I hope this all helps. Best on your journies.   

Cheers,
Contenteo

[very]

It takes time. Lotsa time.

It's not relaxation you're looking for it's familiarity. You need to be proficient in the dozens of potential feelings/states that exist around The F10, f12 area and know how to roll with the punches as a very palpable phase begins to onset.

Practice practice practice before bed. But don't really expect anything for quite some time. You'll get there.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[some]

Nice post embrace.

The vibes are nice to know that some phenomenon exists. They are quite exhilarating. Honestly, whenever I get them I enjoy them so much I snap myself out of the Phase attempt.  I think you'll see the cleanest phases do not have any vibes at all.
So, Enjoy them and get to know the many facets of that first "f10 landing pad＂area. With time you'll be able to summon them on cue, even in day to day waking activities.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[1. Visualizations you intend. 2. Visualizations you don't intend]

After all my attempts, projections, and successes I would say there is a best way to look at visualization strategy. It is twofold.

1. Visualizations you intend.
2. Visualizations you don't intend

The secret is doing enough of the first one in order to find the second. When you start detecting the second, that is, visualizations you don't intend, you want to allow that stream of 'creative energy' to be able to manifest on the surface of your thoughts. If you can maintain consciousness through a complete a merge into the second type, you will find yourself in a projection.

Visualizations you don't intend appear as random additions to the stage that you sent in your mind. They will be wild. They will be weird. But you must embrace them. Learn to feed on them. Learn to resonate them.

Snapping in and out of a visualization state is normal in the road to a successful attempt. Some will happen easy but others will take perseverence. Enjoy your visualizations and you will be projecting in no time.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[visualizations will become weird*,]

Don't forget to let your teeth to fall together. Another way to say that is to keep your top teeth rest on your bottom with the help of gravity. This is a tip I rarley see mentioned nowadays, but was my ace in the hole when I started. If you can get that body asleep(F10) feeling to creep all the way up to them, then you are in REALLY good shape. It'll feel like your whole lower half of your face just got novicained.

Around that point then kick in the metaphysical imagery. Usually any type of playing sports will do. Snap in and out as many times as you can. You'll lose track of reality because the visualizations will become weird*, and then next thing you know, you'll be in a AP state.

You are not going to get to witness the transition happens. Don't expect that.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Contenteo

*I mean it, If the visualizations don't get a little obscure because they are coming from your subconscious, then you are not relaxing enough. You have to divert your focus so the phase can 'sneak behind you'