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Wise words, and so true.

I think my biggest problem is trying to force an OBE/Projection. its just got to flow and happen but im just to anxious. im always looking or listening for something. im always aware of my surroundings and of my body. Just over complicating the simplicity of OBE/Projection.

Anyways thanks for your insight LionHeart, but i think i pretty much just answered my own questions aha

One thing you confused me about here is in your statement you say "I closed my eyes and instantly separated". But then you are asking for advice on how to OBE. What do you think a OBE is?

Thanks lionheart!

Iv read somewhere that sometimes you dream of having an OBE or projection which isnt actually a real projection because its still in the dream realm or something along the lines. but i guess any projection is better than none, and just stepping stones towards the real thing. i thought that when you project its all light, bliss and euphoric but i felt heavy, irritated,  and bothered when i "projected". would this be because im having low "vibrations"?

[1:00 am]

1:00 am - I start meditating for an hour or two. doing energy work, focusing on each of my chakras for about 5 breaths each. from top, down, then all of them at once then restart from the top. i do this for about 15 mins. then i start trying to relax my body and try to induce and OBE, i get to the vibration stage but they are very subtle and disappear within seconds of me feeling them.

2:30 am - I give up and go to sleep. (Vivid dreams)

12:00 pm - I wake up, go to the wash room, then go back to sleep. I fall into a lucid dream right away (Whatever was on my mind atm).

12:30 pm - I wake up, look at the time, then fall into another dream (luicid).

1:00 pm - I wake up, look at the time, lucid dream. I had to be awake at around 3:00 pm so my mind wasnt deep in sleep. I do this in half hour intervals until about 2:00 pm.

2: 00 pm - I wake up but did not move at all. i thought about astral projecting. I closed my eyes and almost instantly i separated. i was standing in the middle of my room and i remember thinking "Finally, astral projection!" I threw my arms up as if to move up into the astral planes but i find myself standing at the end of this long, intestine looking tube. it felt eerie and uncomfortable to i thought of my body and instantly woke. i closed my eyes again and i separated instantly but this time i felt heavy, i felt a presence in my room. i was laying on my stomach and tried to turn around but was insanely difficult. It was not a good presence but it made me feel uncomfortable. i felt trapped and helpless so i thought of waking up and i did.

Has anyone experienced the same thing? Any advice on how to induce an OBE? iv read that its easier to learn in the mornings and recently iv been trying but the vibrations throw me off. Any help, advice or discussions would help alot. this is my first post