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Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: LINE Chat
October 01, 2018, 18:26:30

Ok... Now I have to ask... Seems like the general consensus is that most experienced members do not have a cell phone.

Should I be looking to get rid of mine?
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: LINE Chat
September 30, 2018, 21:12:26
Quote from: Nameless on September 30, 2018, 02:27:00
Doesn't look like too much interest. I would be but I'd need to know how to get into it. Haven't hear of this Line Chat but have been on others.

To me it's a lot like the old party lines people used to share on landline phones. Everyone could talk at once. I tried to people interested over at EIC but I reckon it's hard getting everyone on at the same time since we all have different schedules.

But a once a week group chat might be of interest to some.

And STOP talking to yourself SCHMUSTIN, you know that's a sign of insanity LOL!!


LOL I know its hard when people don't seem to want to talk to you.... Its something I am working on!!

ALl you need to do is go to your app store on your phone either ISO or Andriod. and download the application called "LINE" it looks like a green word bubble with the word LINE inside it.

Once you have it downloaded just sign up and create a name and then I should be able to find you.
I would say you clearly had a shift in consciousness.

As far as the vibrations go..... I had them very strong at one point..... It seems like I haven't had them since then.

I have heard other members say that just because you experience a sensation once does not mean you're going to experience it every time, or even ever again.

Maybe you're like me and you'll have one great vibrational experience maybe two and then they will be rare or not show up again.
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: LINE Chat
September 29, 2018, 20:29:11
I Like the ide cause if you have an experiance you may have the chance to talk to an experiance member right away after, while it's all fresh in ones mind.

I haven't seen anyone request LOL I'm still talking to my self in the group!!
Quote from: Rob29 on September 07, 2016, 17:23:36

So I'm a little confused.  Do you literally tap your index and middle fingers or just slightly move them?  Also, do you just concentrate on doing that and nothing else?


UPDATE: I tried this last night and got to the point where I felt slight vibrations and also what looked like a purple flash in my mind.  I guess I fell asleep then.  That was the closest I have been in a long time.


LOL... As i'm reading through the posts I had the same question.....

Are you actual moving your physical fingers or is it about the feeling of moving the fingers your trying to induce.

How do you move your physical fingers and expect to separate?
I'm guessing you are wanting the feeling of moving and not physically moving....

Hopefully another experienced member can provide some guidance on this.
Quote from: DancingBear on September 28, 2018, 19:07:39
The approaches might seem similar, but they're actually quite different. I don't intentionally meditate to experience OBE, in fact I drop whatever intentions I possibly can. The simplest way I can explain my view on mindfulness meditation (which is what the Buddha actually used to attain enlightenment), is to be a human being, not a human doing, as Scatman John so eloquently put it. Mindfulness is about existing in the present moment unconditionally.

The foundation of Buddhist teachings, and what I see as the foundation for meditation itself is The Three Poisons, which are said to be the root of suffering. They roughly translate as attachment/desire, aversion, and ignorance. If you're attached to or desiring a certain outcome, you are not content with what is, and will suffer for it, because desire is an insatiable master. When you respond to a situation with aversion, you're again not content with what is, and will suffer for it, for things will never be the exact way the ego wants them to be. And finally ignorance, or not knowing the truth of who we are and what is, causes delusion that leads to much suffering.

Meditation is really about tackling all 3 of these. If you try to go from point A to point B because you aren't ok with the way things are you will suffer, and are also moving away from your self which is a double Whammy. Both aversion and attachment are doing this. So what happens if we let go of trying to do so we can just be? Then we sit with ourselves, and with time and attention we come to realize that what we thought was "us" actually wasn't us at all.

When I said I usually start with my attention on my body, it's because if I'm going to peel away the layers of what isn't me, I've got to start somewhere. By sitting with myself, I for example realize my physical sensations aren't me, because who is it that's aware of these physical sensations? Then I see my thoughts, and I realize I also am not these thoughts, because who is it that is aware of these thoughts? And this rabbit hole continues, and after you stop associating with these false aspects of self, you also stop feeding them your attention, and with time they fade into the background.

For me, this is where I start becoming more aware of what is happening in the moment without attaching to specific background noise. And once I am not associating with and in turn giving attention to the sensations that normally make up my experience, I  give room for more subtle aspects of self to come into my awareness. This is where I've gotten to in my meditations. And the more you meditate the more readily these delusions fall away.

So these more subtle aspects of self that you become aware of through dedicated practice, that's where I think I stumbled upon OBE's through meditation. It seems to be that with my body being tired from just waking up, then me starting to meditate while these Theta/Delta (And maybe even Gamma) waves were still affecting my state of awareness, I was then able to rapidly shed false aspects of self (in maybe 15 minutes or so). That's where I became aware of my energetic body? and at least some of my consciouness separated from the physical. This is my guess at what I experience, but I'm only human after all so take it with a grain of salt. =)

I fleshed this out with the hope that you'll more clearly understand what it is I did or "didnt" do, and what I meant by Vipassana. I do want to stress that it's surrendering to the moment, and casting aside your aspirations or resentments for everything just to be with yourself that would lead you down the path I described. When you start trying to do something, like AP, you've started going down the path of the ego. And maybe that is the path you need to experience AP. But in my experience, the truth of who you are comes not from running away from yourself, but from turning around and staring into the abyss.

Hope this helps.

Thank you for taking the time to give this detailed write up. After reading it is sounds pike a good tool to institute into my practice routine.

So if i were to research this a bit, I would search "Mindfulness Meditation", that is what the technique is called, correct?

Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: LINE Chat
September 28, 2018, 03:28:02
I have created a group called Astral Pulse on LINE.

Download the application on your phone and create an account.

If you search for my line ID and send me a message I can add you to the group.

My line ID is: crazy.miss.hyde
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: LINE Chat
September 28, 2018, 02:53:13
Quote from: Nameless on September 28, 2018, 02:03:37
I personally like the idea of a chat room. Every one can 'talk' at once and a small group is easy to keep up with.

my thoughts exactly... People can carry on a group convo and people can kind of ask question and talk and it just more of a personal experience.

How do we go about getting this started?
Quote from: DancingBear on September 28, 2018, 00:40:52
Not sure if it will help, but when I used meditation to AP I started meditating after waking up in the middle of the night. My body was still sleepy, but I kept myself focused consciously.

Personally I use my own blend of Vipassana (mindfulness) meditation. I tend to start with awareness of my body, but transition into a nonreactive state of just existing. Not really focused on anything in particular, but still aware of everything that is happening. That's the state that brings out the more subtle aspects of self for me, when I stop actively seeking sensations of the mind or body, and let them rise and fall like waves in the ocean.

Hope this helps.

Dancing bear,

This sounds like a version of what I do except I try and mentally bring on different sensations or movements.
From what you are saying you sit/lay there with a blank mind and just wait for something to come on, Correct?
Love this thread.

Read through it again and would like to see if some one can provide more explanation to what this "TUG-OF-WAR" sensation people are talking about?

I believe I am experiencing this.

For example: I tend to lay on my side when projecting. At which point I will visualize myself rocking to the left, and then to the right, until it feel as if my NP form is actually moving. For further clarification when I rock toward my front (While laying on my right side) I can actually feel my face getting squished into the pillow more.

So this is where I get the "TUG-OF-WAR" sensation I believe people are talking about....
When I feel this rocking sensation is providing results, for example: I will try the "Roll Out Method".
When I do this, I roll in the direction that seems to be working best. (Usually forward as it feels the most natural)
So, if I am rolling toward the front I will get this sensation that I can only roll so far, and then I kind of get this stuck feeling (some sort of resistance). At which point i focus on rolling even farther. There is this, almost "pressure" sensation I begin to feel on my back, almost as if i'm being pushed, but a wall in front of me.

Is this what people are referring to...? if so what should I do do get past this point.
Welcome to Astral Chat! / LINE Chat
September 27, 2018, 20:03:34
Hey Guys and Galls...

First of all... Sorry if I am posting this in the wrong topic. Please move if needed.

There is a chat application called LINE you are able to set up rooms and have real time chats about topics.
Wondering if any one would be interested in setting this up and that would give us access to each other to ask question chat and get to know each other better.

You are able to mute rooms so not to be disturbed every time some one send a message. I have used this application for gamine and it works really well.

Just thought I would throw the idea out there.
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on September 27, 2018, 06:26:36
Honestly, for myself and what I have read of others' experiences, the process at this point can slow down to what feels like you are only making an inch of progress with each session. It still is progress and it was extremely frustrating for me but I found there were still certain very subtle issues that needed attention. It's impossible for me to say what your issues may be, but it's safe to say there are a few ideas we can explore that seem pretty common.

Some subtle fear issues can still be there, but if you feel you're still making progress each time then that may indicate that you are slowly working through any fear and doubt issues which may linger. One process that I find can greatly help with this is to add in a daily/nightly affirmation.

"I ask for permission and give myself permission to have an out of body experience. I want to do this and know that I am safe and protected."

Say it with meaning every morning and evening for a week or two. This inner communication is subtle yet very powerful for many people.

Another aspect to consider is an honest appraisal of just how relaxed a state you are achieving. If you are really getting energy sensations then you are probably deep enough; but maybe you play around with the timing of your sessions and possibly find a still deeper state. This has always been an important issue and a difficulty for me: The timing of it and then determining the feel of just what particular energy sensations are actually moving me toward an OBE. It's like spinning the dial on a combination lock and sensitively feeling for the activation of the tumblers mechanism. In my case, I really need to be on the edge of sleep in order to relinquish control.

Finally, there is the consideration of just what exit technique is going to work for you and that becomes a truly personal search. Kinesthetic, visual or auditory. I tried visual walkthroughs- nothing. When energy movement sensations occurred, I had difficulty following them through to exit. When vibrations happened, I couldn't make that work. It wasn't until I had a rough night with indigestion and had to prop myself up in bed to find enough relief to drop off into sleep. That time, I was able to watch myself fall asleep and follow the hypnogogic progression of images until i found myself riding a bobsled down a snowy hill. This taught me the importance of adding rhythmic movement to a visual, thus the Rundown, such as Selski's excellent Trampoline Rundown. The visual took on a life of its own and I was literally dumped into a Wake Induced Lucid Dream. From there I phased back to my Physical and experienced a true Mind Awake Body Asleep State. Then I floated out in RTZ/Etheric fashion, then back in followed by a Phasing exit. It was a quite instructive experience.

So, my point is to choose an exit technique but stay open to whatever other sensations may occur, and be ready to adjust and follow as open as possible.

Hope that gives some additional ideas.


Thank you for the guiding words.

I know its near impossible for you to say what my blocks are.... At this point in my life I totally agree that there are blocks and tests I need to work through.
I can say in the past I know I had some huge fear blocks but I feel as if I have and still am making good progress on this.

Thanks you for the affirmation: "I ask for permission and give myself permission to have an out of body experience. I want to do this and know that I am safe and protected."

I am big on affirmations so that is greatly appreciated!

Now this is hard to state with 100% certainty (because I have nothing to really compare it to) but I believe I am relaxed as I possibly can and it doesn't seem to take me long... most time 2 – 3 min.

EV you state: "If you are really getting energy sensations then you are probably deep enough; but maybe you play around with the timing of your sessions and possibly find a still deeper state."
I believe I am "really getting energy sensations" but once again cannot say with 100% certainty as I... Don't Know, What I Don't Know", right?
I can say that shortly after I am relaxed I start getting such things as feelings of movement, colorful lights, random thought pattern, varying degrees for light and dark behind my eyelids etc..

It's almost like at certain times I can think about a sensation and It seems to come on shortly their after I think about it and focus on it.... Is this normal or is it my mind playing tricks on me??

Can you comment on my edit to the post as well? Would really like to read what you have to say about that?
"Edit: I wanted to add that I was very aware of my physical body as much as I believe I was aware of my astral body. Is this possible??? Almost like I knew I had two and what position each limb was in???"

I thought this was strange as I felt as if when I was on my side rolling back and for the front to back and so on... I was aware of my physical body as well almost like I could feel myself, rocking inside it.... Have you experience anything like this?

Quote from: Lumaza on September 27, 2018, 08:18:45
I think this "Sticky" here will be very helpful to you. You are doing great! I think you need to read it again though, just to "rehash" what it says.  :-) 8-)

I still use that technique often, but I have kind of tweaked it to what you now find on the last pages of my "Doorway thread" found here:

The whole thread is good though. It has many different techniques that you can play with. Find something that feels "comfortable" and "natural" to you though.


Thank you for those links, I have time today to read through them again.
I have read them before but refreshers are always good and I find you pick up new things you may have missed the first time.

Right now I find I am questioning weather what I go through is real, or just my mind playing tricks on me because I want it so bad?
I know this is not a good way to go about it but I don't know how to stop questioning it, Andy advice based on your experiences?

Quote from: DancingBear on September 27, 2018, 12:25:10
Purely out of curiosity, why do people like to use these exit techniques instead of just letting it happen through deep relaxation/meditation? When I had my OBE by just surrendering to the moment, I just floated right out of my body with no effort. Afterwards when I tried to force new OBE experiences through my will, it felt like I was taking steps backwards. That method felt like I was hindering myself more than anything, by bringing me into a state of attachment/aversion that seemed counterproductive on multiple levels. I've decided to just continue expanding my awareness through meditation, which also happens to melt fears away by melting away aversion.

Maybe this is a slower path, but it feels like going with the flow of the river instead of fighting my way upstream.

Dancing Bear,

Thank you for the reply.
I have tried meditation but honestly I cannot seem to use it to get anything close to a projection.

Now... I have not researched proper meditation techniques and have not practiced to really warrant a educated comment on this subject so I don't want to say to much.
For me I feel like I subconsciously separate meditation from laying down and wanting to project. I think it is the subconscious intent I put behind the two.

Hey guys and gals how's it going?

I laid down this afternoon to practice projecting. While I was laying there relaxing, breathing deep and counting backwards... trying to keep my mind occupied. I decided to try some phantom movements.

I was moving my hands up and down, wiggling my fingers and my toes; nothing was really working.

I decided to create some forms of full body movement, at which point I started rocking back and forth as if I was sleeping on a boat. Rocking head to toe not side to side. That seemed to work well at the start and then it stopped.

I know about the roll out method so I figured I would try that as a movement and just trying to rock back and fourth. I forgot to mention that I was on my side through this whole process.

So as I'm laying there rocking front to back, I started to feel as if I was actually rocking. So then I thought why not try and roll out. Now it slightly worked better one way than the other. When I would roll to my front I would get this sort of pressure all along the back side of my body and I had this urge to roll but I didn't know how to discern weather I was rolling my physical or not.

As well it seemed like I knew I had to roll but I have no idea how to do it if I can't use my muscles. Hinder

If any of you can help me out and provide some guidance on learning how to move when this situation occurs that would be greatly appreciated I really feel like I was there I just didn't know how to go any farther.... it was kind of confusing.

Edit: I wanted to add that I was very aware of my physical body as much as I believe I was aware of my astral body. Is this possible??? Almost like I knew I had two and what position each limb was in???
Quote from: Light_being on April 23, 2017, 13:13:27
SCHMUSTIN, I haven't been doing much of it since I've been failing much. I spoke to my intuition and told me root cause of failure is fear, so I'm working on that for now. But I'm making progress on that, I decided to be quite for a while.
Unless you have tips on how to overcome it, share them :-)

Sorry for the late response to this. Hope you see it.  :?

I had a huge fear block as well.

I found the only thing that worked for me was to just let go and passive observe the visions or the sensations or whatever it might be.

I found that every time I had a new sensation I would "fear it" and it would end the experience. At first I would go through and have to experience the sensation a couple times to get comfortable with it... This is a very long process.

At one point I basically said "screw it"... I know its not going to hurt me and if it dose... so be it.
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on September 22, 2018, 08:50:37
Sorry about your loss friend. Lost my dad 8 years ago.

It hurts for awhile for very good reasons.

Comforting wishes to you and your family,

Sorry to hear about your father.
It is a shi**y thing to go through. Just have to keep practicing what is important to me and my spiritual growth, keep on bettering myself and keep moving on.

Quote from: Lumaza on September 23, 2018, 02:21:58
SCHUMUSTIN, my condolences to you and your Family as well!  :-(

She didn't have the ability to say what she wanted to say, but it sounds like those "goosebumps" spoke volumes!

When you are ready on all levels, you will receive the proper "closure" you wish for and deserve. Time heals all wounds.

Thank you for the kind words. Literally the goosebumps were crazy I mean out of this world. I have had some pretty crazy goosebumps a couple times since her passing and I just look at it as a sign she is letting me know she if here.
Quote from: Nameless on September 21, 2018, 21:31:05
Hey hon, just popping back in to give you another warm hug. (((hug)))

Nameless... Thank you.... :lol: :lol: :cry:

Please keep in mind, I am by no means an expert on this subject but have had a couple separations and a couple partial separations with all sorts of degrees of non-physical sensations.

So here is my input and I am sure there are people on here that will correct me, if I am incorrect.
All the "techniques" you read about basically push you to focus outside your body and usually involve some type of movement. Such as... hammock (rocking), rope (climbing), etc...

I found, that in the start, I would use these and nothing would happen.  :?
My mind would always wonder and then I was fighting to bring it back to the "rope" to continue climbing.

All these do is get you to focus out of the body and put some sort or feeling of movement. You could use anything you wanted, skateboard, driving, riding a horse, literally almost anything.

What I have had the most success with is using these to start out... Once I am relaxed my mind usually drifts away and now, I take that as sign to move on. At which point I will quickly do a relaxation check and slowly work from my toes to the top of my head and ensure I am total relaxed.

Now, I like the counting method, its easiest and straight forward (and for some reason for me it works to keep the mind aware).
I count backwards from 100. One thing I like is if my mind wanders I can slowly bring it back to a number. So to explain: I start at 100 then 99 then 98 and so on.
If I loose track I just start where ever I want. Say I make it to 76 and then my mind wanders or grabs on to a colorful swirl, object or scene, I may start at 48 or 95 and just keep counting.  I find counting is easier on the mind than having to find a rope and move your arms.... that sort of stuff.

Now the counting method has no movement but for some reason it works for me.

I count backward as it takes a little more effort. At some point I quit counting and just cautiously view what is going on, not paying to much attention to one giving thing. I have found that if I am getting to involved with what is going on i automatically just go back to counting to bring my mind back on track. LOL need to keep it under control.

Moral of my story is don't get to hung up on the techniques... what works for me may not work for you.

Hope this helps... Would appreciate hearing if you had any success.

Best of luck!

Quote from: T-Man on September 21, 2018, 03:46:10

Very sorry to hear about your Mom.  Speaking from experience it is always hard loosing a parent.  All I can say is that with time things will get better.  I like to think of it as being a new beginning for her journey.  I think that as an AP'er you know without any doubt that you will see her again. 

My condolences to you and your family.

T-Man, Thank you for the kind words I am hope full that one day... Before my passing and when I am ready I will get a chance to see her again.

Quote from: Nameless on September 21, 2018, 05:32:12
Schmustin, I am so sorry to hear of your mothers passing. I remember well when my own mom passed. You don't really get over it but you do accept it in time. She's had an amazing journey and now she is on to other amazing journeys. You know you will see her again.

But you? You are still here and you still have to finish this one. There's no hurry, you will find yourself soon enough.

Many hugs and lots of love.

Nameless, Thank you .. I always look forward to your reply's. I agree, I know that at some point I will see her again and will relish that day.
I know I am still here and there is no rush to finish this one. Taking it a day at a time and yes with time i can see how it will/should get easier too live with.
Hey guys and Galls,

I have not posted on here for a while now as I have had some family stuff come up.
This is more of an outlet post for me... Thanks for taking the time to read....

My mom has had a brain tumor since she was an infant.
Doctors had been keeping an eye on since they located about 20+ years ago, after she had been having seizures when she was about 31.
Long story short... January 2107 things turned bad and the tumor had been hemorrhaging and bleeding into her brain and then in turn turned to Cancer of the brain and spine.

Then radiation and all that started.

Now fast forward to November 2017... The "END" (More appropriately the "beginning", pending how you look at it) was clearly on the way and their was nothing any one was going to do.

Gratefully, I am in a position that with my job I (my wife and two young kids 8 yo and 9 yo) was able to take a substantial amount off time of to stay with her and my step dad for 3 - 4 weeks.

This was one experience that will never leave my mind. Watching you mother slowly slip away day after day watching the body slowly loose the ability to walk talk etc... And... not being able to do a thing.

On December 17th, 2018 my mother passed away in her bed with my step dad and myself holding her in our arms. Surrounding the bed was my beautiful wife and little brother.

I will never forget telling her how much I loved her, and cherish the day we get to see each other again and that everything was exactly how it was supposed to be.
Looking down as her hand in mine the goosebumps that cam over her were remarkable. I have NEVER seen goosebumps like this in my life.
As we were all standing and lying around in tears I just pictured her standing right beside us..... Sorry this is really hard to type out... so i am going to call that the story.

Anyways... thank you for taking the time to read this.

I don't know where to go from here.
I have tried AP'ing a couple times but it doesn't seem to be on the forefront of my mind like it used to.
I feel like it is yet another fear road block for me which sux cause I was just starting to get over to fear part. And now, as I would give just about anything to see my mom again I am afraid as to what it will do to me if I do.

I have another experience about practicing AP'ing after my mothers passing but will need to save it for later on in the thread, as this is a little to much right now.  :-( :-(
Quote from: Lumaza on November 20, 2017, 16:34:33
Not necessarily diminishes. It just gets hard to keep your focus.  This is why "click outs" occur. Sometimes you get in too deep and totally lose your "conscious" awareness on the scenario at hand. Other times we tend to click out too when the scenario creates a kind of "system overload" on us. Too much info, too intense, something creates a "shut down".
Yes, intended target of destination is a must. You are now in a realm where thought = action is instantaneous. So now, you have to also learn how to control that "thinking" there.

No, I still gets "fear tests". It really does help your awareness level though and yes, you have to trust. But that trust came through the notion that I have been experiencing this being touched thing, since I was a little boy. It used to terrify me and I immediately yanked the blankets over my head. But the more it happened, the more I realized that I always returned "unscathed" and by that understanding I developed "trust".


Great post. Tanks for the great write up.  :-D :-D
Quote from: Lumaza on November 15, 2017, 14:55:10
You have a great ability to "lock" onto your new surroundings.  8-)

I learned a few years ago how to think of my body like a giant piece of "Swiss cheese". That way, the sounds around me just flowed through me, while I could keep my focus where it needed to be. I didn't fight the sounds. I just allowed them to flow and kept my focus on whatever my intent for the session was.

The only interruptions I get now are direct interruptions, like someone knocking on the door needing to use the bathroom or someone calling my name to help them with something. Other than that, I can pin point my focus on whatever I need to at the time.

I am still aware, at some level, of the happenings around my physical body. But as my focus deepens, that physical focus disappears quite quickly and I find myself "elsewhere".
Once in awhile I will experience a fully conscious "dual" awareness throughout the entire process. That's a hard one to juggle for a lengthy period of time though.
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on November 15, 2017, 21:34:49
It sounds like you have reached a new level. Sadly, we don't often get flags waving or crowds cheering to celebrate the event...we just sort of have to realize it for ourselves. This one I remember and the emotional kick is very appreciated, because it usually comes after a long, discouraging drought of 'progress'...which you have now emerged from.

New experiences, new sensations, new circumstances of awareness...these are the signs to look for.

Lumaza gave you a good description of the necessary attitude going forward now -be like Swiss Cheese and let the new sensations, emotions and thoughts flow through you for awhile, just take it all in, without too much consideration for now of what it all means; you will sort it out later. You have entered a period of just experiencing. Have fun, be confused and enjoy. Go with the flow and trust your instinct.

Depending on your theories as to how the NPR actually functions, one or more things may have occurred to get you to the next level:

You are gradually increasing your consciousness within your Dreaming Body.
You have managed to activate a higher chakra.
You have maneuvered your Focus to a new chakra.
You have activated your awareness within your etheric or lower astral body.
In the Castaneda paradigm, you have shifted your 'point of attention'.

Those are several ideas; I happen to like to incorporate them all into my own personal theory; you can work out your own. Either way, it is all fun and wonderful and mystifying. Well done and keep on!


Lumaza and EV,

Thank you for the confirmation of what I thought was happening.
I really feel like I am on a new Level so to say. I feel like the last 9 - 10 months, of basically nothing happening, was a test and I am so happy i decided to see it trough.

Very excited for what I get to learn next!!
Quote from: EscapeVelocity on November 13, 2017, 21:26:24

Reply #11/November 10

That was a great experience; you did exactly what I suggested in an earlier set your Intent, then you 'let go' and fell asleep. Then you became lucid within a dream. This, just in itself, was a significant accomplishment. Now the symbology of the 'large estate', the circular driveway, the fountain in the ignored the importance of that and began to walk away; so the dream introduced something to try to re-awaken you (to kick your awareness back up a notch)- the car drove by and you wondered at recognizing the driver...still not enough, you kept walking and so the car blew up! How good is it when they try to get your attention by blowing sh*t up?!!

That blew you back to the Physical, where you had a chance to reconsider how to get back to the NPR. You didn't manage it despite trying but that's okay; it's the experience and the effort that is important.

Working out the symbology here is a personal journey for you. Some expressions are somewhat universal, but again, you have to work out this very personal communication for yourself.

Great experience! Well done!


Thank you for the kind words! Yes your previous posts to my topics have helped greatly.
I am amazed at how helpful the community is here; the amount of collective knowledge here is truly awesome!

So... I have  a a statement and just wanted to get your/others thoughts....

The last 4 - 5 days have been AWESOME. I believe that I have broke through/overcome a couple barriers that were hindering the process.
The last two nights I have found that it is near impossible for me to interrupt the process/sensations. Of course, if I were to willingly end the experience I can do that, but, take last night for example:

There was so much stuff going on. My wife was in the kitchen, my African Grey parrot was making noise and my German Shepherd was running around the house, as well, the light in my room was turned on. It seems like I am getting to a point where I almost know when my body is ready, so I try and take advantage of that whenever I can. Like last night! Also I was not wearing ear plugs so I could hear everything.

I was amazed at how I was able to keep my focus, off of all the distractions and the process just evolved. The odd time I would switch my attention to my wife or dog etc... It seemed like the process would move in reverse a bit and I would have to play catch up, so to speak. But i could keep it going and it wodul not stop.

Has anyone ells found this?

Also wanted to add that I experiences two new sensations yesterday...

1) Ringing / static noise that seemed to have a 3D quality that ran through my head from ear to ear.
2) Music.... I could hear music (Rock type) as if i were at a concert.
Welcome to the Astral Pulse! You on a great adventure!

You will need to gain allot of non physical experience and practice before you attempt to verify Frank Kepple's.

Look forward to following your journey and the interesting adventures you share!!
Quote from: Lumaza on November 13, 2017, 14:21:15
Just like the Beatle's song. "LET IT BE"!  :-) Then just passively observe it all. I actually like observing the Sleep Paralysis phenomenon. I can tell just when the "exit" is about to occur. First I get the "ultra awareness". Then I here the "Astral winds" gently blowing, next is the "inner buzz". The winds and body buzz comes in "waves" or "pulse" at first. Once the winds and buzz become a constant, it is normally a few minutes later that the actual "exit" will occur. It's just like clockwork now.

You control your fear by realizing and "believing"/knowing that nothing bad is happening. Your breathing cycle/rhythm slows naturally when you go to sleep. You are normally not aware of this and other things that your body naturally does in the sleep process. The process of "mind awake-body asleep" makes you aware of this though. You have "chosen" to be aware during this process. So, now you need to learn how to sit back and allow it to happen naturally. You will know when it's time to implement a actual "OBE" technique, such as climbing a rope, ladder, etc.
I don't use any of that now. I just await observe as the natural shift occurs and I don't get in it's way. Not every SP episode ends in a actual OBE for me. Sometimes, I hear the winds, get the body buzz, then nothing. Why, I have no idea. I guess the time wasn't right.

You can also get the same "signposts" at the "end" of a OBE as well. As you are returning to the body. That could explain why sometimes you have all the symptoms, but then everything just stops then and there. 

As I was laying there last night I got a wide range of visuals and sensations such as... I will try and keep them in the order that they came....

1) Ringing in me ears that seemed to run from ear to ear right through my head.
2) Bright flashing white light. The light seemed to come from my left side.
3) Tingling in my legs.
4) Increased heard beat.
5) Elevated body temp
6) Complete silence/dark almost like I would fall asleep all would go black and then I would almost pull myself out? Not the Void place as far as i know. I believe I have been to this "Void" a couple times. This was not the same.
7) This one I am not sure about. At one point is seemed like there was another hand resting on my right hand/forearm. Don't know what this was or if it has any significance.

This may have been another test as I was wanting to focus on the fear barrier and every time a sensation came up I would mentally work on calming myself down and passively observe. Most sensations were not a problem. the increase heart beat and raised body temp seemed to be a little harder to control.

One interesting point I found was, I could notice that if the fear creeped in, the sensation would start to fade, slowly, and if I was able to calm down I was ably to bring that sensation back on. As well I tried swallowing (I had the worst urge to swallow) and it seemed to knock the process back but I would not stop it just knock me back a bit and I was able to be back to where I was with in seconds. I was able to do this 2 - 3 times.

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