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Quote from: Beethoven2024 on June 24, 2024, 13:57:39Thanks Volgerie, that was fascinating!

I love the idea of having something like a playing card hidden to see if it can be seen out of body.

The card validation is a well-known practice for OBErs. Some have success but not all. If you are on the astral level it might work despite the reality fluctuations (you might get several card options then instead). If you really focus hard you might succeed and the right one appears, maybe ... and some did have success with it for sure.

My attempts at card validations when projecting to my room, however, were quite frustrating and unsuccessful because then I did not get to my room in the first place but was somewhere else every time.

As irony has it, when I finally did it another way (actually more by accident) it worked for me. I used the Void/3D-Blackness which indeed showed the right card to me at the time. When I was back 'in-body' and went to the stack to see the card I had blindly drawn the day before and placed on that shelf I was 'shocked' to see the right one. My conclusion was (as so often): the Void does not lie - at least not to me.
Quote from: Beethoven2024 on June 21, 2024, 10:10:16The first thing I did was see if I could see myself lying in bed.

I wasn't there. This didn't make any sense but I carried on.
Just picking up on this issue for lack of time now and also because I thought about it recently.

In my book this happens because it was an astral and not an etheric projection.

Just speaking from my own expereriences here. The only time when I saw myself lying down in bed while I was hovering over it was a projection of my etheric body, it is heavy and with lots of energetic sensations. Later I can add a link where I described it in detail; it was also my first self-induced OBE back then.

Imv, the etheric plane has/is no own plane as such but an etheric (body) projection can take place in/to the physical and thus you can see yourself (meaning: your physical body) from it simultaneously when you are a few inches or metres 'out' and away from it. It can give you strange feeling I can tell you, at least so it was for me back then.

In an astral projection, in contrast, you are in an energetic copy of your bedroom when you see it. There are overlaps with the physical (thus validations / gatering proof is possible - but difficult) but there are also so-called "reality fluctuations" (e.g. past objects or a manifestation of your own thoughts or other levels, such as we know it from dreams).

The "logic" of the 'projection' dictates thus that of course you could not see yourself in bed ... just because you were out of your astral bed with your astral body standing there looking back at your now empty astral bed.  :wink:

However even on the astral plane (physical copy) it would be possible to see yourself, when you just 'leave a copy of self' in the bed because energetic splits might be possible. Or you just create a thought form of yourself lying there and so you 'are'. Anything is possible on the astral plane.

Just my two cents, I know some people see it differently and don't differentiate between etheric-astral-mental projection, but it is just a conclusion from my humble OBE experiences of the past. It's how I came to see it then.
I guess I'm still finding out.
My first vibrations also were not vibrations at all but strong energy surges with sound that came from the down of my spine upwards through the torso.  :-o

Like you I was annoyed when I then read about pleasant and soft vibrations. I only had them later after this hard-core phase.   :wink:

Here I wrote about it also recently and there also is a link to my blog about my first 'violent' OBE induction experience:!/astral-vision-with-exhilarating-energy-surges/msg380111/#msg380111

Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Precognitive Dream
May 15, 2024, 10:49:55
I've had lots of precog dreams. Also some where it somehow mixes up with dream telepathy (group experiments and private personal ones). I have them in a searchable diary / journal / log and might then post some here later on (no time now).
Sad news. Robert Bruce, famous author of AP and energy work books and also former and early member (since 2002) of this forum has passed away on April 22nd.

I know he is a controversial author to some regarding 'certain topics' but I will always be very grateful to him. He was the third author on OBE/AP I read back when I started this journey (around 2009/2010) after I had finished Buhlman's first book and the three Monroe books and it was him who gave me a new and interesting perspective on AP related energy work, techniques and views. And his then still active Astraldynamics forum also helped me a lot (even knew it before the Pulse).

I think that especially his work 'Astraldynamics' is considered a classic by now among APers, or will be in the future for sure.

If I remember correctly, wasn't it even him who coined and described the very term which is a namegiver for this forum -'Astral Pulse'? (I could be wrong on this though.)

Rest in Peace, Robert. You will be missed.
Next to the normal vibrations which came later, my first two OBEs were related to 'kundalini-like' energy surges. Back then the word and concept "Kundalini" wasn't even known to me. I only found out about it later and could compare it and found validation that the energy surge was maybe also related to this phenomenon.

Here is a more detailed account from my former blog (now discontinued) that was written 2018 and in its first form in 2011, the event however had already been in Nov 2009:

1. How do you prefer to sleep?
a) on your back
b) on your belly
c) on your left side
d) on your right side
Other: please explain in a few sentences or less.

2. What is the fastest way for you to fall asleep?
a) on your back
b) on your belly
c) on your left side
d) on your right side
Other: please explain in a few sentences or less.

3. Which sleeping position allows you a higher success rate for astral phenomenon? (OBE's, hypnagogia, sleep paralysis)
a) on your back
b) on your belly
c) on your left side
d) on your right side
Other: please explain in a few sentences or less.

I'm a notorious side sleeper. I alternate equally between left and right during the night. I think I still prefer the right side as this seems to be the one where I start lying down first.

I have no experience with the other two because I do not know how you can lie on your belly honestly while sleeping (should'nt this be harmful for the neck/nape?).
Due to jaw pain (CMD) problems I cannot lie on my back and also relaxation is more difficult for me generally in supine position (I sometimes do meditation sessions then on my back due to headphones I wear then, but it is difficult for me).
All religions (montheistic as well as all the 'pagan' multi-god pantheons of Romans, Greeks, 'barbarians' such as Germanics, Celts, many indigenous tribes around the world and in all ages, etc) humanised their god(s) in order to comprehend them better. Abstract concepts to approach what REALITY really is don't do it for the 'normies'. Also it was created and held up for the powers to control the people better. A guy with a white beard on a throne is just more authoritative than a concept of, say, "Source" or "All That Is" or whatever.
Quote from: tides2dust on February 21, 2024, 09:04:11

"What you are seeing and hearing right now is nothing but a dream. You are dreaming right now in this moment. You're dreaming with the brain awake. Dreaming is the main function of the mind, and the mind dreams twenty-four hours a day. It dreams when the brain is awake, and it also dreams when the brain is asleep. The difference is that when the brain is awake, there is a material frame that makes us perceive things in a linear way. When we go to sleep we do not have the frame, and the dream has the tendency to change constantly. Humans are dreaming all the time."
But first we have to agree on a definition what "DREAM(ING)" means in the first place.
I need to get one of these too! ... Oh wait ... I now noticed ... I already have one in my bedroom.

Good strategy. I will tell entering the 'machine' myself now also every night before sleep and hope it will get results.
My astral ET experiences are very limited tbh. I saw them (mostly 'grey type' beings) in dreams a lot and once had a lucid 'meeting' but it wasn't an abduction although strangely enough it wasn't a 'voluntary' meeting with them either. It was short and nothing really to write home about, I mean, not an elaborated story at all, rather boring. Yet it is profound for me because it had a very 'real' feel about it supported also by the fact that I did not really ask for it. I never asked for a meeting with ANY Ets to this day as it is simply never my intention (so far) for my astral explorations (Akashic records, retrievals, higher astral realms are, just to name a few examples, but never ETs). So I am a bit of a bore here I suppose.  :wink:

Anyway for what it's worth, here is the journal entry from the AD forum on August 6th 2012 which I titled tongue-in-cheek 'To Boldly Go' and yes, you can see I took it quite humourously back then in general:

To Boldly Go ...

During another exit, I was 'blind' again but felt that I was hovering 'outside' of the window of my portal already. I grabbed sth that felt like wooden posts, poles, planks or beams. Then I had the idea to use another Buhlman command but with a variation. I shouted while directing my 'eyes' down at my still not visible hands holding them before me.

"Higher Vibration Now! Increase Vibration Now! Higher Vibration Now! "

Then I even added:

"Much Higher!!!"

Then felt myself (my "body") becoming somehow warmer and more 'diffused'. Then I could see my hands shimmering orange-red through the darkness. It was still dark and murky around me, but when I 'looked up' from my hands I saw some white beings a few 'metres' off, mabye 3-5 or so. They were all white, still with 'form' but also a little shiny. The background and everything else was still in deep and murky darkness. They looked at me, observing. Not more. I recognised them by their contours and also 'faces'.


I decided this was not where I initially had wanted to go (see above) or what I ever expected to encounter in the astral at all. I was not afraid or scared or anything. It wasn't a scary or threatening encounter at all. There even seemed a peaceful air about them. At least, it was neutral. All in all, it lasted not long enough for me to make a complete assessment. After about 3 seconds I decided to fade out again as it just wasn't what I was heading for."

Comments / Afterthoughts

Well, maybe I should have done without the "much higher" instead?

Taking the TMI levels literally and considering the fact that I was neither 'being visited' nor 'being abducted' but rather went there by increasing my frequency, it could mean that I was on Focus Level 34 indeed.


As said, I was and am not scared at all. I am even a little optimistic as it shows that I might now be able to make it 'anywhere' in the non-physical with this technique. I just need to 'calibrate' (so leaving out the 'much higher' addition next time isn't just a joke). If I make it to F34 I certainly can make it to F27 by 'adjusting'. That's the positve insight. It would be like hopping off the bus a station or two earlier or like leaving the upward moving elevator on a lower floor, just to put it metaphorically.

It is fascinating how I experienced the vibrational shift. It felt warm, more spread out and maybe even 'light(er)' (in a double sense?). Still I was disappointed not to have reached the "Healing Temple" or any kind of lighted, sunny Park-like area hoped for. I wasn't focussing on a location when I did this. I was just focussed on my 'body' then. So this might be a thing to improve for next time I try it. And I will!

Actually I am also a little amused, too. Maybe I should have tried to communicate with them. The whole thing strikes me as funnny even. It was like s.o. opening a door in an office building in search of a team meeting, noticing it is the wrong group and conference room, saying 'oops, I'm sorry, wrong party' and closing the door again. Maybe I should have asked them "Ok, guys, how ye doin'? And where's Spock, by the way?"

Another over-arching ETs 'storyline' if you will evolved by occasionally astral travelling through a kind of 'network' with regard to either travelling or also researching the Akashic Databases or rather any kind of 'Cosmic Wiki' it seems. It must somehow be connected to the Grey ETs for me since I saw them then peripherally only. Btw I wrote a bit also about this in a thread about a more recent development here:!/the-void-part-2-5-years-later-the-videntia-project/msg379389/#msg379389

(if you don't want to read it all you can scroll down to the header "The 'Grey' information and/or travel network system")

That's all. Not so much I know.
Welcome to the forum, athoward!
I love these 'download' dreams.  :-)
It's been a while since I had them though. Classroom (school or university) is quite often where I have to do tests but often fail them since I try to solve them with my daily waking consciousness. Also dreams when in school and outside a kind of UFO 'invasion' takes place.
Quote from: Eddie333 on January 29, 2024, 14:35:56Nice to meet you Volgerle!
But how do you usually get out of the void? Do you just snap back to your physical body or you go through another lower focus first like I did with the lucid dream where i thought I woke up but I didn't?

Both of what you mention is possible. I choose to be lazy  :wink:  and copy the part from my Void article on this sub-topic here:

VOID Entries & Exits


I mostly enter the Void from sleep paralysis after an induction which happens for me after 3 hours of sleep already. This is more or less the so-called Wake-Back-To-Bed strategy, a term coined by Albert Taylor.

The best 'body exit' or 'Void entry' strategy is in my view akin to the method of 'Phasing'. I call it 'teleporting' or 'jumping' though. I was taught to use it instead of any kind of exit movement during my 'Don't-Roll-For-The-Void' experience (see above). So then I am in sleep paralysis or vibrational state (with or without vibrations) and just 'click' or 'teleport' into the Void. Normally, we all remember a short 'blackness phase' during each 'classical' exit technique, too, so this means we might go through the Void anyway (see more on this as a speculation in Part V). So this is just about using this common short window of opportunity to 'stop' there and stay in the 3D Blackness. Normally the view opens up quickly and I am 'there'.

In one experience I tried to enter it from a Lucid Dream. I tried to 'dissolve' the scenery (F2 according to Kepple) around me and affirmed to be taken to the Void. I ended up in a kind of light zone and it might in this case even have been the white Void although I cannot be sure of this. Since I was in an astral dream scenery before my entry into this white area this would make sense due to the White Void's closer proximity to manifested realities. I then asked a question and demanded an answer by sound. Indeed I heard an answer by a female voice but it was too low ('far away') to be understood. This can happen in the (dark) Void, too.

I will further work on this method and try to remember that I want to access the Void (or F3) from this area, too.


I can leave the Void by different states of consciousness. I made some acronyms of the ones that mostly ocurred to me.

FOWAP - Fade-Out With Astral Projection (F3) (or Lucid Dream (F2)); also: VAP - Void Appendix Projection
FOWUP - Fade-Out With Waking Up
FOWULD - Fade-Out With Unlucid Dream

FOWUP is what happens most often to me. This is of course the most helpful type for journalling since you can immediately jot down your memories for the dialogue transcript.

FOWULD can happen but it is rare. It is the least conducive to bring back memories, as a matter of fact. Mostly it is 'normal' dreaming (so it happens in F2). It is possible with lucid phases, too. Then it would be more of a FOWAP (taking place in F2 or F3) for me.

FOWAP is also common. To make it clear: This does not include being shown pictures in the Void because the 'background' in that case is still the 3D Blackness or swirls (Type A or B). It rather refers to 'exits' from the Void and 'entries' into full astral sceneries instead. This is of course also the usual 'travel' or 'teleportation' mode by using the Void as a portal to reach an astral or mental plane. However, in these FOWAP cases the projections were helpful in answering a question posed in the Void before. So they were connected (or 'appended', hence my term 'VAP') via my intent to the Void experience.

From my personal experience we (or at least I) ALWAYS go through the Void while doing a conscious projection (as opposed to Lucid Dreaming when you wake up in a dream and immediately 'see'). We often just don't realise it. It is the diving board and starting point. For me there is or was 'always' a 'black phase' even when I gain 'visuals' almost immediately.

So the 'trick' if you will is to realise it and just 'stop' 'on the way out' by realising you don't want to go further yet but stay there for a while or the rest of your projection.

Also I would suggest not to use any 'physical' techniques such as rolling, climbing, or any other 'kinetic' strategies like e.g. looking at your astral hands in front of you to gain more clarity. A kind of 'phasing' tech seems better for the Void if you ask me.

Visuals within the Void will then also arise automatically by design or desire, in my case often in the form of 'galaxies', 'vortexes' or 'swirls' which you can enter or use for communication. You can also let it show you things e.g. when you do remote viewing stuff. The Void can become pretty 'talkative' and 'communicative' if you let it.  :wink:
Merry Christmas to all whom it may concern! Whatever you celebrate (or not) I wish you a happy time and happy holidays!

Regarding manifestation of APs/OBEs ... I also noticed that the very feeling of excitement / thrill of joyful anticipation is best what gets me into the SP/Vibrational State. I project with an (inner) smile on my face, so to speak. This works best.  :-)
Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Biological Children
December 05, 2023, 10:48:16
No wife, no kids. Yep. I fit the pattern and I see there's one for sure.

I resonate a lot with what has been written here and actually am amazed how many of the 'core' members' lives here are 'the same' like me or at least similar.  :-o 

Thanks, Nameless, for making this thread. Nice to meet and talk to some 'similar souls' at least online because I had and have a hard time finding them in physicality.
Certainly I have been a 'loner' (hate that word) for most of my life. Especially regarding my inner being and state of mind. Yes, periods with 'relationships' and some friends (not many) I had but it never went too deep. Now I actually have only 1 friend left, well, better than nothing.

If I remember correctly from Dolores' work, I might be a 'second waver' or a kind of early scout for them, since I was born a little before that (1968). I also remember her writing that most of the 3-Wavers  don't want to attract more karma which having children can cause. Not sure if this is right though. I know from one past life I was a woman (yeah, guess who ... it's 'Sinera' :roll: ) with 3 children but 2 were early infant deaths - maybe another reason for me not having children in this life?

I seem to be also (although by mere self-diagnosis) a slight case of aspergers, or at least I am a very focussed introvert who needs a lot of 'me-time', but I'm not 'shy', there is a difference.

Unlike most here, however, I often in my life and also at this time suffer from my 'lonely' situation. I do not have depression but all my life I am 'melancholic' and sometimes it is hard for me to be so alone although I also need it. There's sadness for sure. Sometime anger why I came here and chose this life. Then again I love it because I do a lot of creative and productive things I could not do as a family man or not as 'effective'. So altogether a real dilemma it is.

EV put this situation so eloquently with the words ...

"a dichotomous struggle between needing friends and social interaction (small group quality versus large crowds) and the absolute requirement of periods of isolation for meditation, reflection, processing."

That also describes my life for sure.

I always had this quagmire situation, even since my school days where I was 'shy' indeed but did not want to be without friends. I found some guys who were 'like' me occasionally, but not many. 
I also was bullied for being 'shy' by the 'normie' class mates, well, I survived it all, but I know that not all do and take their lives early. I was lucky to have been too cowardly to do this but also had a good family home serving as a retreat with my parents and uncles, aunts, grannies, etc.
My relationship to my sister is not good and never was, altough she is also a 'starseed' kid for sure, so she 'told' me once. My now very old parents whom I care for right now (roles reversed if you will) always were more earth-bound it seems, certainly my mother.

I had a later phase as a youth where I tried becoming more extrovert, mostly in my 'roaring twenties', even played in bands as musician and went to parties, took drugs, the usual silly stuff you do as youngster, etc, but was never too happy with it. The melancholy and the feeling of being a mis-fit stayed always in the background.

My ET connection is also there which many here seem to have (see the other thread(s) on it). I admit I was never interested in exploring this connection but now it seems it became unavoidable to 'face' it due to some of my OBEs it seems. I do not really like this fact though since I wanted to focus on my Higher Self more than other lives (human or not) and never asked for these experiences. It seems you don't always get what you ask for.  :wink:

Last not least, since it interests me, there is the Carl-Jung-based personality test I made years ago and turned out to be an INFJ type, here's the results copied:

"Your Type is INFJ
Strength of the preferences %:
Introverted 100%
Intuitive 62%
Feeling 12%
Judging 22% "

I really wonder how many are INFJs here, too? Would love to know if anyone did the test too. I would assume a few more INFJs round here.
(And here's a test if you are interested: )
Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Ancient Aliens
December 04, 2023, 10:02:08
I think many of us here actually are, well, kind of.  :-)
This is a copy from the other forum/blog. I thought it might fit in here too since the Void is discussed here and my article from 5 years ago is also pinned here.
I was writing it fast so sorry for the many language mistakes. Updates might follow since this is another work (project) in progress now. Some edits done only regarding the formatting.

original post follows

Preliminary Remarks

Recently I decided to take a break from my 'Retrievals' project (and book) since it did not work for a long time and many reasons anyway. I thought if I focus on something else the motivation will help me to get results again. And gosh was I right! It opened up to a lot of new lucid adventures within the span of a week.

My goal was to use the Void for access to the Akashic Records / Database. My chosen first target was to 'view' (note that this is important detail for later on - to 'see') scenes of the wedding day of my (maternal) grandparents because I am so fascinated by that vintage wedding photo (must have been around 1936/37 or so) placed on a cabinet in my parent's living room. I knew my grandmother as a child (til age of 9) but never my granddad who died in WW2.

I also wanted to 'view' historic world events, places or persons because I am indeed a kind of history geek. I love historic documentaries, no matter if they are 'official' ones (Romans, Greeks, Medieval, Asian, Egyptians, Prehistory, etc.) or more 'alternative' pre-history research (Atlantis, Lemuria, (pre-)Younger Dryas Impact times, including some Graham Hancock or the funnier Daeneken and 'Ancient Aliens' stuff, I gobble it all up).

This can be seen as Part II of my Void research five years after I made the post in 2018 although it also is about using the Void to access reality frames or/and databases and information or even knowledge. At least the latter that is my main intent. This is the start of a new journal for this project / experiment, since I expect more updates soon. You may comment in the other thread "The Void - Experiences & Discussions" if you like.

So without further ado, this is what happened in almost three consecutive (!) nights within the last week.

Night One: The Purple Hall Of Records

I get lucid flying and enter a gigantic hall but the entrance is not on the floor but in the middle of it with other exits and entrances. I keep flying straight forward towards the other side of that hall which is composed of a row of curtains veiling some great exits. It is remarkable that the athmosphere of this hall is still Void-like dark-ish but also filled with violet or purple light or mist a lot and the veil colours are also purple or blue-ish.

One of the great drapes (still 50 metres ahead of me) is kind of flapping in the wind and reveals what is behind it: Earth! I see the blue globe of it shortly before the veil closes again. I assume it to be kind of my target of gaining access to Earth (history) knowledge.

Still, instead of proceeding towards it I turn sideways and take another exit to explore first. I fly through some glass walled rooms where I see statues and stuff like it is a museum of sorts. A bit clueless turn to a guard who sits on a chair, an old man (human) and ask him 'What is this place called?'. I am surprised to get an almost straight answer:

'It is called 'Videntia', but that also depends on how the formation is done.'

I might have gone on a while flying but don't remember more.


First about the word. It's recognizably Latin language, even during the experience I knew that. However, apart from common phrases (veni vidi vici, quad erat demonstrantum, etc.) I do not know any Latin not even basic.

The meaning of this word is thus proof to me that it was really given to me by a Higher Intelligence. It has to do with my quest for (akashic) knowledge. It is an inflected form (hence the guard's hint towards 'formation'?) of the Latin word 'videns'. -->, from there quoted:

Quotevidēns (genitive videntis); third-declension one-termination participle

    looking (at)

So we have observation leading to understanding = knowledge?

Google translator also translates it as 'vision' or 'seeing'. ("seeing") ("vision")

I wanted to 'view' the Akashic, that was my goal. Was it even the "hall" of records? Just a coscmic variant where Earth (history) is just one option to choose from. Were all other exits other programs / databases to access?

I concluded after this experience that this might have opened a great possibility to me. I decided to go on in this direction and to 'visit' this 'place' called 'Videntia' again and do it better next time.

Night Two - Diving Into The Globe

Two projections or lucid episodes that night actually. While the first is negligable I note it down for entertainment purpose because I find it quite funny, although painful at the same time.

I got lucid and started running around in a kind of education institution (probably university) and asking myself what I wanted to do. Yes, as it happens often to many projectors I got semi-lucid but forgot my goals! Didn't remember any of it! In my desperation, I even asked other (dream) characters if they knew what I wanted to do but they - being the NPCs they were - could not help me. I was annoyed since otherwise I was pretty clear in my mind. But forgetting the initial intent or target happens often to me!

Not much so is remembered of the second one but it is still significant to my quest. I was in the Void and then made the affirmation for 'Akasha' (not sure if I also already called for 'Videntia') and even the set target (Grandmother's wedding day). As a reaction by the Void I saw again Earth from above, first in a realistic way and then changed with strange 'alien' symbols on it. I do not remember any purple this time though. I decided to 'dive down' into the globe. It felt like a dense area, not sure if I was in a kind of ocean. I 'lost myself' in it and not more is remembered. I did not find my target. I probably lost lucidity again.


Diving down was not a good idea it seems. My conclusion and interpretation later on was that the Globe (like the first time in the Videntia hall of records) is the top-level access point for Earth history's Akashic database. It is an interface. What I probably needed to do was to stay above it all as an impartial 'observer' (videns = observe!) and just 'focus' or 'zoom in' from there to 'view' my target. That zooming process must then be specific using the coordinates regarding A) time and B) space in order to 'view' the respective Akashic entry. How to do it? Just the intent will be enough and the 'system' database software will do the rest? No clue. I will have to find out.

Night Three - The Purple Void Cosmic Network

Again that night I had two projections.

I get lucid in the Void and see the green swirl before me which is a sign for me that the Void is ,ready' to react to me and in ,stand-by' mode. (See more about the 'swirls' or 'galaxies' as used basic language in my Void article).
I remember to call 'Videntia!'. And immediately the Void turns into a purple swirl! Purple! I then know that I am doing something right. I keep flying towards it and enter it like I did with the Earth globe before to find out what happens.
Turns out I am still in in a purplish but also 3-D-blackness network grid. A kind of tunnel system. Again there is lots of purple 'mist' but the walls seem black. I keep flying.
What I also see sometimes are silhouettes and contours of ,grey' alien types, mostly their heads. They just look at me, sometimes it is two or three, at times just one. They seemed to be ,symbolic' indicating some possibly gateway / exit points? I keep flying on regardless. I also then see some outlines of other beings but nothing particular to identify. The purple 'grey alien' shapes is what I remembered.
I do not remember where I ended up and might have lost lucidity after a while.

I had a second lucid projection later that night: Again I used the Void and the command 'Videntia' although I do not remember the gateway or if it was also purple again. However, this time I know what I am doing even better and remember my intent to get some (akashic) knowledge although I change the target: I demand to be shown another planet where I also had a life on in the past.
Immediatly I leave the Void and land inside a kind of ,installation' or building with signs at the wall or even ,graffitti'-like inscriptions or pictures on a white wall. It looks rather human culture and so I am baffled since I did not expect humans here. I am alone though and there are many openings I fly through into the daylight (Again as usual I am only a point of consciousness) and kind of (not sure how) land on the roof of this ,building'.
It is roundly shaped with several domes that have openings but it is not very high. I look down and there is a kind of sand or ,desert' area. The sand is reddish (feel reminded of Mars but could be also a desert area on Earth after all).
However, what baffles me most, there is a social gathering before this building and I see 50 or so people standing around some bar tables in a casual manner talking and having a drink or so. They look human completely. I do not remember the attire they wore or if I made out anything else that was kind of ,alien' to me.
The entire scene is rather ,mundane' and harmless. Before I can explore further from my vantage point or fly down or ask questions or whatever the experience ends. It must be noted though that it looked all very realistic and nothing about it was dream-like at all.


I kind of encountered this 'alien' or 'grey' network aspect before. I will describe it more in my overall conclusion below. I am clueless and a bit disappointed about the second adventure. Yet it has to be noted again how hyper-realistic it felt.

Overall Conclusion

The colour purple:

First of all the recurring colour purple. It seems to indicate 'spiritual knowledge'. Plus it is of the highest Chakra and it might indeed be a 'higher level'. I really like this.


The 'Grey' information and/or travel network system:

Other experiences of mine hint to the fact that it really exists and can be used - at least by me. This is a bit frightening. Do I have connections to 'them'? Was I one of them in previous lives? Not sure. I need to accept the possibility.

I must have written it down but cannot find it anymore but as it happened I was travelling a network grid and the visuals were similar (at least Void-ish). However what I saw then was kind of funny: At the bottom left of my visual field I saw the head of a 'grey' again, just like it was the brand logo of a channel on a screen when you watch tv. It's as if it was kind of telling me: 'we own this but you can use it'.

Also regarding an information or telepathic network I had a lucid episode where I sensed I was watched by a Grey being 'logging' into the 'web'. I copy this from my old journal. I got lucid and I had a dialogue with an 'internal voice' (IV) answering my questions. I must have sensed the Grey being watching me in my dream life as being male, this explains the answer of IV:
QuoteMe: "Oh no, not one of them again!"
IV: "It's a woman."
Me: "A woman? Oh. I thought they were sex-less."
IV: "No."
Me: "What else? What does 'she' do?"
IV: "She logs on to the net sometimes."
Me: "Does she also incarnate as a human being (woman) here? Or is she even right now also in human form?"
I did not get an answer to my last question.

Not long before that event I already had met Greys who were watching me in the Void during a projection or even a 'higher vibrational level' (because that is what I aimed at!), quote from the same journal:
QuoteDuring another exit, I was 'blind' again but felt that I was hovering
'outside' of the window of my portal already. I grabbed sth that felt
like wooden posts, poles, planks or beams. Then I had the idea to use
another Buhlman command but with a variation. I shouted while directing
my 'eyes' down at my still not visible hands holding them before me.

"Higher Vibration Now! Increase Vibration Now! Higher Vibration Now! "

Then I even added:

"Much Higher!!!"

Then felt myself (my "body") becoming somehow warmer and more
'diffused'. Then I could see my hands shimmering orange-red through the
darkness. It was still dark and murky around me, but when I 'looked up'
from my hands I saw some white beings a few 'metres' off, mabye 3-5 or
so. They were all white, still with 'form' but also a little shiny. The
background and everything else was still in deep and murky darkness.
They looked at me, observing. Not more. I recognised them by their
contours and also 'faces'.


I decided this was not where I initially had wanted to go (see above) or
what I ever expected to encounter in the astral at all. I was not
afraid or scared or anything. It wasn't a scary or threatening encounter
at all. There even seemed a peaceful air about them. At least, it was
neutral. All in all, it lasted not long enough for me to make a complete
assessment. After about 3 seconds I decided to fade out again as it
just wasn't what I was heading for.

So what is the or 'my' thing with 'them'? No clue. But they are there and watching (me, us all) and maintain probably useful travel and information networks, that much is clear to me. And I might be able and allowed to make use of the gateways and travel grids.

Point of Consciousness:

Next to the colour purple I also like the fact that I am always a point of consciousness in all experiences with Videntia since the 'observer mode' is the best approach or even a pre-requisite for Akashic research.

Going Forward:

Three approaches (all from the Void):
1) I will use the Purple Void Network method again next time when in the (normal) Void.
2) If I encounter a 'globe' in the Void as a presumed top-level entry point for the Earth database I will try to 'zoom in' on the historic event or place I want to 'view'.
3) In the black Void (after the green swirl signal!) I will simply try to give the direct command to enter the scene I want to watch, should be the easiest way but who knows what will actually happen!

Ok, that's it for now. Keep you updated (hopefully).
I had a 'kind of' NDE during surgery. Not so sure since the surgeon later on when asked by me never told me if I was in danger of losing my life but he had a strange evasive reaction indeed. It was a routine operation though.
The OBE/NDE was twofold, the first scene was a blissful experience where I also saw the surgery and me on the table for a short moment and read the surgeon's thoughts. The other one was later in the wake-up room where I looked through the wall when s.o. else was on the table being operated on before I then woke up myself. I have a more detailed description of the entire experience in my journal/blog and can link it here if you like.
Quote from: omcasey on October 16, 2023, 15:37:32I am enjoying the conversation. But I still haven't heard what the difference is between F2 and F3, aside from a deeper lucidity. Let me ask this directly, is it the same difference as between a 'private' and 'consensus' reality? -- the latter being 'consensus'? Or is this off base?
I'd say 'yes' to this more or less.

But there come more attributes that come with the 'private' and 'consensous'.

First of all the 'consensus' is based on group thought and thus more stable, you cannot always change the environment if it was upheld by thousands or millions of souls, e.g. "The Park (Focus 27") or similar higher Focus levels.

Second, the 'consensus' is also 'collective' and so you can meet 'real' other people while most in F2 are dream characters or your own thought forms (but not necessarily exclusively).

So the 'private' is very thought- and/or emotion-responsive and to me it is therefore practically identical to s.o.'s 'dreamscape'.

But there is fluidity and you can easily enter a higher - more stable - area from a dream (F2) by way of focussed thought and increased lucidity combined with strong intent / willpower. It is also the other way round, so there are no clear boundaries which often makes it difficult to differentiate between the two or to determine "where" in mindspace you are.

As a sidenote: This is why I love the Void so much since there things are 'clearer' and more straight all the time even if you manifest or receive inputs with your different senses (visual, audio, kinesthetic). You have a lot of control as long as you are in this state.
In my personal view and (some) experience backing it up, a Lucid Dream 'starts' in F2 because I believe in 'dream state' you cannot automatically 'go to' F3. F2 is 'dream land' no matter which degree of lucidity you have.

However if you get lucid in F2 then you can turn it into a F3 experience by applying methods to 'get there' changing your level and state (I made a thread about this kind of 'conversion' recently).

So in other words, imv a LD is another way of travelling to F3 just like a direct projection is, which usually starts in the physical or from the Void (placed as the 'borderland' between F2/F3 by Frank Kepple) although the Void also often leads to F2 (at least in my case) if you are not focussed and lucid enough then.

You can also be lucid in F2, e.g. when you visit other people's dreamscapes or do retrievals there (Monroe F22 or F23 levels). Just not the other way round (unlucid in F3 or above).
Welcome to Dreams! / Re: Ask for a Dream Agent
October 05, 2023, 11:00:17
I remembered the 'Dream Agents' from one of my old projection and dream journals now.

I then (around 2011) called them  'Awakeners', 'Prompters' or 'Lucidators'. They were different people but also re-occurring / re-visiting ones. One was my late granny it seems (rather a guide/dream-character acting as her).

Here is the thread I made and found now again about the 'awakeners' back in 2011 from my 'dream programming series' on the Robert Bruce forum (so long ago already that I had forgotten most of it by now):

A related interesting pheonomenon was that sometimes some of them referred to an outside sound I had in my room (binaural beats or nature relaxation sounds) making me 'aware' of it.

Here's a quote from that thread with an example, but I remember similar things happened again:

QuoteA girl (unknown to me) says that she thinks that outside the sound of some planes or other flying machines makes such a nice soothing and calming sound. I also hear it and agree with her. I wake up. I hear the sound of my hifi audios I had turned on during sleep. It was a HemiSync Lucid Dreaming sounds. It does not really sound like planes in the sky, rather like rain or a storm. Still it has a deep and permanent sound carpet which is - of course - soothing and calming. I KNOW that "she" referred to this sound which I also heard in my dream then.

This is interesting. A dream personality referring sth (a sensual auditory input) that is going on simultaneously in the physical world around the sleeper. Maybe she wanted to 'wake me up', but not from my sleep but rather in the dream to get more lucid.


Here I found another thread with the dream personalities repeating a affirmation / mantra or me that I also had as background while sleeping:

QuoteHere are two examples:

In a dream some days ago, I am driving with a buddy of mine as a pillion passenger behind him on his motorcycle. He repeats the affirmation to me that is simultaneously playing in physical life in my bedroom. However, he 'mimicks' it simultaneously but uses different words completely, the meaning of which got lost for me (not remembered). This is what I refer to as 'audio-livestream transcription error'. The fact that I know and "hear" the affirmation although the words are changed is a lucid element - the fact that I instantly KNOW (while dreaming) that the words my buddy uses are NOT the correct ones even more!

The same tonight: I am experiencing dream imagery and am "hearing" the affirmation. But it is a different wording again. The rhythm is the same, but the accentuation is different. Thus I 'hear' another word.
And again: I am LUCID enough to KNOW that 1) this is the audiostream from the physical, and 2) this still cannot be right as the words are different. In the dream still I try to get the correction but I do not manage to do so. Then I get almost to the surface of near-awakeness and I put the right affirmation in (means: I hear the live stream), take it "with me" and 'delve down' deeper again into trance state again. I keep playing with it. Sometimes loosing the right wording and 'hearing' the wrong words again or even switching to and fro, still in a kind of trance-like, semi-lucid, hypnagogic or even dreamy state.


It's cool when this happens, need this more often nowadays.  8-)