China owns the debt of the US but its not in China's interest for US to economically collapse. Where would they sell their products then?

Not knowing alot about economics I asked the same question. This is one of the responses I was given:

OK, ;let's assume China bails out of it's US denominated assets. Who gets clobbered?

#1. The United States. Because they depend so much on the Rest Of The World buying US dollars so they can then turn around and buy stuff (especially Oil) from the Rest Of The World, they are the most vulnerable, right now. It comes as no shock to hear that China holds the US in great contempt and would like to throw the US to the wolves;

#2. Japan, China's traditional enemy. The first biggest holder of US denominated assets is Japan. If they US currency tanks it, the Chinese get to watch Japan disappear beneath a sea of Red Ink.

But what happens to China? Won't it's reserves get hammered? Not really - because the Chinese Renmimbi Yuan is pegged to the value of 1/8th that of the US dollar (they recently allowed a revaluation from 1:8.00001 US dollars:Renmimbi Yuan to (gasp) 1:7.999998) as the US dollar falls, the Renmimbi yuan gets cheaper and cheaper and cheaper, until their exports are so...inexpensive, China will be the only place the US can acutally buy anything from.

At that point, it won't matter if the Chinese have lost most of their US denominated assets, because they will then be able to siphon what remains of the US assets off and the US will be powerless to prevent it. Indeed, they'll have to do it, as it will be their only option.

China might destroy an awful lot of it's US$818 billion worth of Foreign Reserves, but it's adding money to 'em at the rate of US$15 billion per month.

That means that if they lose the lot it'll take 54 months, or around 4 and a half years, to rebuild them. Getting the picture yet?

The ultimate global showdown is shaping up between The People's Republic of China and the US; what will ultimately be the global resource war to end global resource wars.

This is a good starting point for anyone interested:

http://www.321energy.com/editorials/winston/winston020905.html

Unrestricted War: China’s Master Plan to Destroy America is a treatise for world domination written in 1999 by People’s Liberation Army Colonels Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui. In order for China to become a dominant global power over the United States, the PLA emphasizes “The Final War over Resources”, must be won.

A truly deep and thorny issue, but for a different perspective on the conflict watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw

And yeah, Stookie, I agree with you that movies encapsulate an individuals ruminations on life pretty well, same with music.

1. Stand by Me
2. What's Eating Gilbert Grape
3. Edward Scissorhands
4. Eyes Wide Shut
5. Groundhog Day

Also:

Big Fish
Lost in Translation
LA Story
Heathers
Being John Malkovich
The Goonies
Labrynth
12 Monkeys
Planes Trains and Auotomobiles
 

Ok, I went back and found one of the responses a gnostic web moderator gave me in relation to this topic:

You will create karmic links with the ones who use your blood. This can complicate things, but, it can also help others if they are much worse karma than you, of course you will gain some of their karma too. Is this a problem? It is up to you. Personally, I see no need for that. I'd rather let people who need blood die so they can be reborn with a new healthy body. In my opinion, the need for blood donation is a product of materalism, fear of death, etc.

I'm, pretty much in a agreement with both of you, Misterjingo & WINTW, anyway.

Hi everybody,

I was just wondering if any members here are regular blood donors, or have ever donated at some point? Some Gnostic people explained to me some time ago that they believed there is the potential for me to be messing around my karmic destiny through my blood donations. I have done twenty to date. Anybody have any thoughts on this?

Thanks.

I tried the blinking method last night when I went to bed. Upon opening my eyes after about 3 minutes a saw a big flash of light in the room, but it only lasted for a few seconds. I think there were some very mild vibrations coming on after after about five minutes also, but I soon fell asleep.

Infinite Bliss, regarding any hydrogen economy I just don't think it will happen on a larger enough scale to really make a difference to the coming energy crisis. There are, approximately, something like 600 million gasoline powered combustion engines in the world ( I could be wrong there) and these fuel cells just seem so expensive. Bearing in mind that the peak is on our doorstep, turning over the world's current vehicles to alt energy is going to cost trillions of dollars. If such advances we more purposefully pursued 20 years ago, then we might have had a chance...

The last article I linked to offers some good insight into the problems we are running into:



 

Now pay attention economists. Here are three dicta that may sound heretical. First is Minter's Little Observation: Neither capital nor labor can create energy. Growing out of this observation is Minter's Little Law of Energy Subsidy: The shortage of a more efficient energy source in an economy will always make the remaining sources of less efficient energy more expensive and even less efficient. Will humanity belatedly begin to use all energy more efficiently when we finally hear those sucking sounds in the petroleum barrel? Of course. We will have to. But such efficiencies will not make us more prosperous (as they do today). By that time they will only slow the rate at which we get poorer. Why? Heed Minter's Little Maxim: A society's transition from a more efficient energy source to a less efficient energy source will always and invariably decrease the wealth, flexibility and options available to that society.
 In other words, just when we most need the wealth and flexibility of cheap petroleum energy to make the transition to a less energy-intensive infrastructure, everything is going to cost much, much more. We will be poorer.

check out this video from week 1 :

http://www.dhlovelife.com/archive/index1.html


 
see I knew it was corn oil! 

I liked this video, thanks runlola. Darryl Hannah sure drives a strange car, being such a huge celebrity.

Ok, thanks for that.

I just finished listening to the five year old child speaking..this is some insane stuff

Stillwater, If you are not too bored with this subject yet you mind find this article interesting also. Keep in mind that it was written a decade ago but it is one of the best pieces of authorship I've yet seen on PO.

http://fcn.state.fl.us/fdi/edesign/news/9612/joyride.htm

Yeah, I put some of those earlier ones on my MP3 player for when I go hiking, and they have been very interesting to listen too. I really enjoyed the ones of people talking of how they escaped belief system areas.

Stookie, is it possible to give me a link to the ones you speak of?

Thanks.

If you wanted to leave the US for a year and spend a bit of time in one of the best cities in the world imo ( Melbourne) you could try to organize an exchange from the University of your choice. I think you may have had to already completed at least one year  though. Not entirely sure. Might be worth a look though:

http://www.sca.unimelb.edu.au/cw/index.html

 

For this reason, I think the peak would mainly be obscured on "accurate" graphs, and it would be pretty difficult to pin down exactly when it happened- it would steal in like a thief in the night, siphoning off grain: no one really knows when he comes, but that he was there is apparent. What is so important is not when it is happening, will happen, or has happened, but that the peak exists, and must be addressed.

Thanks for that reply Stillwater. I pretty much agree with everything you have said, just one question: do you mean that you actually believe that there will be a definitive peak occurring in 2007 (followed by a decline) or, do you see the peak as an observable prolonged plateau. If you see a long plateau, then the data shaping up in that graph fits in with a 2007 date very nicely ( you couldn’t possibly expect production to rise much more if you think peak production occurs in 2007, could you?) I am aware that trends such as the one in the graph have happened before, but this has usually been resolved by a swing producer (Saudi Arabia). However, Saudi Arabia seem unable to raise production to a significant degree this time (at least for conventional light sweet crude).   Also, Have you read the Hirsch report? If so what did you think of it?

http://www.projectcensored.org/newsflash/the_hirsch_report.pdf

Hirsch says that we need a twenty year crash program to mitigate the worst effects of Peak Oil, to avoid a severe economic crisis. Governments clearly are not planning for this. If Peak Oil is next year, how do you see it being played out on the world economic stage?

Good posting Stillwater. I keep thinking if only there was a video recording of these events ( Findlay materialization) with in tandem with the audio recording then we could have all the evidence we need. Is there a specific reason why a video recording would not be considered?

Eh, I think you have to take these things quarter to quarter at best. Temporary drops or crests that are the result of changing world conditions generally don't really affect the average price over any given interval, so I think if you look at short-term lows, you are just scaring yourself. But I could be wrong!

Yes, you are right of course. This will most likely just be a temorary blip, but it is pretty clear that the era of cheap oil is over.

Do you keep pace with the 'Oil Drum' Stillwater? Some of their graphs are pretty scary, do you think that we have hitHubbert's curve yet? We are on a plateau of some sort. Alot of people think that this represents the peak, and I think they are right.OPEC seems unable to raise production in the face of rising demand. If this is peak in 2006, then the whole world is in for some serious trouble.

Peak Oil is gaining much more focus here in Australia recently.

Our most respected current affairs program ( Four Corners) recently aired a special on Peak Oil, it can be watched if you have broadband connection here:

http://abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20060710/

Respect to hydrogen, even those advocating it just don't seem to think that there will be enough time, once the complete flow on effect from Peak Oil arrives. This is addressed in this video:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13112.htm

Hi Infinate bliss.

Those are some good ideas, but I think we fundamentally have to undertake a massive powerdown to avoid a future of pain. There is no avoiding the fact that Industrialized nations are totally dependent on fossil fuels and no combination of alternatives are going to get us out of this mess, although they are certainly going to play a part. Look how world population figures corrospond the discovery and production of fossil fuels:



We are in a massive population overshoot

There is a good article on this subject @ astralvoyage.

Here is the link:

http://www.astralvoyage.com/projection/internal_ringing.html

  That's really interesting, thanks. I still think the audio files are a little startling, though.

Hi Adrian.

I posted this before I saw your topic in the OBE forum. I've followed Victor's site for some time, and I listened to a few of the sound files posted. I think it is interesting to understand how these events can be linked to OBE.

Thanks.

http://www.victorzammit.com/


This site is linked to on the Astral Pulse home page. Is anyone familiar with the work of VZ? I though his latest entries on his site were pretty interesting. I'm not really sure what to think of this, but Victor Zammit sounds pretty convinced....

"STOP PRESS STOP PRESS!! I put all seven voices from the etherians (who materialized during our materializations experiments just recently) and the voice analysis 'Audacity' (from 'audio') software on the computer showed that ALL VOICES come from seven different materialized persons- the seven voices had seven different graphs. More stunning results later.

Arthur Findlay materialized for a short time because the energy he said was low. The most stunning revelation of his materialization is that he came after William finished his discourse about how much a materialization medium gives up for his gift and the need to support this kind of mediumship and whether or not mediums should charge money for their services. Now when Arthur Findlay materialized, all he said was for me to look up on page 57 of his book On The Edge Of The Etheric – published circa 1933. Guess what? In this page (at least in my edition) he writes that his medium, when he was physically on earth, was John Sloan, took very little money for his mediumship. That to me is quite stunning. You can hear materialized Arthur Findlay giving me directions: Listen to MP3….

THE GREAT LOUIS ARMSTRONG: we are at all times cautious when we converse with materialized etherians. This is because in the past, there have been many imposters. Empiricists want to use empirical methodology to validate any psi phenomena. People these days are demanding validation. And the people have a right to demand validation for any phenomena - especially if some phenomenon is beyond the 'boggle threshold.'. But, just for the record, even if there were imposters, this does not mean the materializations did not take place – in fact I repeat: with absolute certainty materializations are taking place. Louis was always a most wonderful man on physical earth, and the more we talk to him the more we see of his wonderful self. There is something irresistible telling us that he is who he claims to be. You will also hear me asking the medium’s control 'William' words to the effect: can he guarantee that those who materialize are who they claim to be? Yes, he said, he can. That is an excellent start. But we all have to remember that the problem is no more different if you telephone somebody overseas you know: you’d recognize the voice, the mannerisms but you do not have the empirical evidence that the person you conversed with is who he claims to be. That would require a lot of empirical testing. You will hear Louis Armstrong making a joke about my wanting to compare his voice. Listen to MP3….

NOTE CAREFULLY: one has to accept that materialization conditions are sometimes difficult to control. We do not have the perfect conditions as yet. A couple of the etherians struggle to talk through the ectoplasm. There are problems, but William did say we must have patience and conditions will improve over time. At first all physical mediums must operate in the dark. Ectoplasm cannot work in the light, in any light. This has to do with afterlife dimension energy. Those etherians who materialize have to use ectoplasm, which has the ability to reduce the vibrations to that of earth’s vibrations – for them to become as solid as we are on earth. After that, one other problem is that the etherian has to remember how his voice was on earth. It is his mental image of his voice which is transmitted through the ectoplasmic voice box. That is not always easy to do. We occasionally hear someone try to speak who drops off because of lack of experience. William told us in the future, he may be get spirit lights into the meetings. But just because at the moment we operate in the dark, does not mean we cannot control the materialization experiment. We are thorough in what we do and again, I guarantee that materializations of those who once lived on earth are taking place. These experiments inevitably will have a huge influence on the acceptance of afterlife evidence around the world."

An update: The price of crude is setting new records regarding the strife in the mid-East, over $ 80 a barrel at one stage. Fuel prices around the world will most likely be REALLY high next week.

I don't think people should disparage mustardseed for posting this. After all, these kinds of patterns are synonymous with paranormal activity If I might ask, what age is your unit Mustardseed? And are there any signs of similar patterns developing anywhere else?