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1  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal ** Looking for help analyzing/understanding them! ** on: Yesterday at 21:33:01
20 Sept 2021

Still in a dry spell!

Brief experience this morning. Possible projection from sleep. I realized I could "go", and was hemming and hawing about where to ask to be taken. I was thinking over trying to decide what to pick this time, taking an uncharacteristically long time to deliberate with myself, when suddenly I felt a helper's arms around me from behind. I was told (to the best of my recollection), more or less, "We're taking you to the throne room to improve your communication with us. You've been there before. The process will take about 30 minutes."

I mean, I was real excited to hear this! I was very grateful, etc, and there was a lot of traveling, traveling....still traveling (wow this place must be FAR). Then suddenly, before we got to anyplace that seemed like "the place" and then suddenly...I was out in that other 3D "otherwhere" and my awareness was back to me lying in bed and I was like, damn, again something cool is about to happen and I click out before we get to the good part!!!
2  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal ** Looking for help analyzing/understanding them! ** on: July 29, 2021, 23:20:51
Thanks Shineling, that's interesting. Where/who/what tradition says that galaxies develop in the elbows?
3  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal ** Looking for help analyzing/understanding them! ** on: July 26, 2021, 05:52:48
25 July 2021

Lucid dream - astral projection

I seemed to have some degree of dream or 2-D imagery. I thought to myself if only I could make it 3-dimensional, so I could step into it and go somewhere. I reached out my left arm straight ahead of me and “pushed” it into the two dimensional “movie screen” of the image in front of me (tho, filling my vision), and it seemed to go “into” the two dimensional scene so that that part of me *became* three dimensional, and I kept pushing and stretching the rest of my body into the scene as well, until all of me was in, and I felt like I “peeled” out of myself.  I asked to see my spirit guides. Expressed gratitude. My helper was a blonde woman, and I had the feeling she’d been my helper numerous times before. There seemed to be some kind of tissue or something that I was carrying, and I put it into some kind of slot. My helper rubbed some kind of lotion or ointment on the underside of my right elbow (in the crook of my elbow), and I asked what it was for. She said something to the effect of it was to see if there’s any {something something} there, or to see if there’s any {something something} left flowing - or something like that. It stung a bit after a few seconds.

I asked pointedly why she and no one else would tell me why I’m here, answering my requests for help knowing my mission and purpose. I really went off on them. There seemed to be other helper type people around. I started talking to all of them, like, I have asked all of you for help, and all of you I’ve worked with, and none of you have helped me, every time in my life I thought I knew what my purpose was, I was wrong! Intuition can be wrong! So don’t act like I don’t need this help, I’m asking for this help because I need it! I ask you for help and guidance and you don’t give it to me.

I felt like they were listening and looked chagrined, and I don’t quite remember what happened next, but the scene started to fade and lose it’s 3-dimensionality, and then I was back.

Man, I've been in such a dry spell the past few months  undecided I hope things start clicking a bit more soon.
4  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Re: Bringing It Back on: July 22, 2021, 18:05:36
Man, I WISH!  shocked
5  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal ** Looking for help analyzing/understanding them! ** on: June 26, 2021, 21:43:54
26 June 2021

Out of body experience - astral projection

This morning, felt myself in what seemed like The State, stretched/reached starting with my hands, up and out. Turned left, went out through the wall/window. Asked to be taken to my spirit guides; I added lots of things like please, I ask this with humility, etc. I felt myself moving slightly downward, and then two female helpers showed up, one on either side, each took one of my hands. I think as they approached I heard something like “Take our hands” or whatever. They guided me back to the ground. They sounded British, and I could see they were communicating telepathically (I could hear them talking also to each other but their mouths didn’t move). I was taken to what looked like a racetrack for car racing, although the ground was dirt. It seemed like I’d have to compete in this for some reason. I was kinda thinking like...WTF, I can’t race a car! I don’t know how to do that! I stood in line to participate. The only other people were men, they were all taller than me, kinda buff, and they were only wearing what seemed like underwear. I didn’t understand how all this was supposed to work so I asked the ones in front and behind me in line - I couldn’t understand what they were saying in response.

As it turns out, this wasn’t car racing and we weren’t the ones “in the race”. There were others who were racing horses, and we (the ones who were in line) had to advance as much as possible hiding somewhat under the dirt, hoping to not get trampled by the horses whenever they came around. Like, you could choose to hide under the dirt anywhere along the track when the time came, but it was sorta russian roulette if you’d be in any of the horses’ paths. After one round, I came up from under the dirt to see I seemed to be in second place.

I can’t remember what happened next, but the next thing I know I’m with one of the two helpers who brought me here. I was kinda like, what was all that about? She responded that I was being taken to see Master So, and that he wanted me to see that I have the ability to best people even when I don’t think I’ve got it in me (or something like that).

I responded with glee that I’d never been told I was going to be taken to a specific guide/master by name before! As a side note, it sure sounded like “Master So” and that’s what I conceived it to be at the time in terms of spelling. The helper added, at some point, some information to the effect that Master So was very busy and important or whatever.

We were in a hallway going down some stairs. It wasn’t particularly nice, seemed like an old building, not fancy. I saw an elder man, dressed in robes with longer hair and beard - kinda like a Confucius type character. That’s how he looked. Except - he was wearing reddish/mauve colored heels! Not sure what that was supposed to signify. He said some things to me which of course I can’t remember. Then, he handed me my own pair of shoes, just like his. I accepted them from him with two hands, very solemn and humble, and bowed a little to show my appreciation. He said, “I’ll be seeing you,” and walked off.

Right after he did, the helper took me into a room that was right there in the hallway where I met Master So. There wasn’t a door, you had to part some fabric/curtain like material to enter the room, as if going into a tent. There was another curtain/fabric partition at the back of the room, and that’s where we were headed. It looked like some kinda religious type meditation area or whatever. The helper sat at one end and I was supposed to sit at the other. I got the sense that she was giving me some practice on how I was to interact with Master So, or how it would go when I meet him more - like a rehearsal, to help me practice. She sat at one end and I sat opposite her, and then I woke up.

Why do I always gotta wake up right before the good stuff actually happens! LOL I’m like feeling all excited because I thought I was actually gonna get to ask a real “master” type guide all my questions and the movie cut off shortly before any of that happened.
6  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: shineling’s APs on: June 20, 2021, 22:07:47
woah that's weird. Can you get your phone records from your provider and see where the incoming call came from at that time?
7  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal ** Looking for help analyzing/understanding them! ** on: May 28, 2021, 00:34:29
27 May 2021

Huh Parallel life/dimension? Simulation? Huh


This morning, I was still so tired when I woke up, I stayed laying in bed and closed my eyes, hoping to fall back asleep. I felt like I was getting into a certain state. Thought of a song - not a real song, but it seemed real to me at the time - and thinking of it helped me generate the spinning/vertigo feeling. I capitalized on it to stretch up and out of my body multiple times.

First, I asked to be taken to see A., one of my oldest friends, who I haven’t seen in years and thought would be an interesting test case for veridical OBE, because I could talk to him about it. There was a male voice, or male-presenting entity, who said he would need to do something to my mind/brain - nothing to do with my request to visit A., but it had some other purpose related to me alone. I said OK, as long as it’s in my highest and best interest. Then, I was like, wait, is it going to hurt? Then I don’t remember anything from that experience, I snapped back.

Not satisfied, I did the same weird “song” trick to go back down, spinning/movement, and up and out. I found myself in my house where I grew up. Suddenly, my cousin was in the kitchen. I wasn’t sure what she had to tell me or why she was there - she wasn’t sure, either, what the point of all this was. We were both confused. There seemed to be three “bodies” that looked like my dad in the den area. She told me they weren’t really him. Weird.

That experience ended, I was back, and went out again using the same method as above. I asked again, insisting, that I wanted to see my friend. The male entity, which I took to be the same from before, said yes OK, ok. I heard his voice make a request, like as if announced over an intercom system, for someone to facilitate transporting me - as if you hear something like "CLEAN UP ON AISLE 3" but a different request for the kind of helper needed to shuttle me LOL. Immediately, a female-presenting helper arrived and stood behind me and held me. I felt her hands around the front of my arms, thrilled to feel the helping hands again. We seemed to hover in front of a large door, like the bay door of a spaceship or space station. It started to open and I got scared for a minute about going out into space, but my helper told me not to be scared, just close my eyes. Then I was like, Oh yeah, there’s nothing to worry about, I can breathe out there! So we floated out the bay door and right there on the right hand side of the opening, was a wormhole. There was some snafu getting up into it, like somehow the door itself had opened such that it was in the way, and someone else had to come out to get the door back so we could position ourselves directly under it to be sucked up. While hovering around waiting, I could see others going up into the wormhole. I could see, far up in the distance, what appeared to be the faint glimmer of others transiting in another wormhole route. It seemed like a complex transportation system.

I was excited but also confused. I had started off on earth, in my bedroom. I leave my body and ask to see my friend - also on earth - but somehow I wind up in space, and have to take a wormhole back to earth? Not exactly direct.

So we finally get up in the wormhole and start moving. This entire time this morning, I was on and off having trouble seeing. I don’t really remember noticing much of anything during the trip, and then suddenly….I’m landing over the back of a couch onto someone’s lap and throwing up.

I was throwing up!!! It felt so real. The acrid taste, the wetness, the gagging. I was like...am I actually throwing up? Is my BODY throwing up? How is throwing up happening? WTF?

[sidenote: I feel like maybe a month ago I remember someone else on the Pulse saying they threw up in the Astral, and I can't remember who it was. If you're reading this, fellow vomiter, remind me of your experience because this was SO weird and had never happened to me before!!]

I was in a living room, seemed like a house party. The couch on which I fell, well, my friend A. was sitting on the couch, I fell party over the back of the couch and onto his lap. He was like, awww she’s throwing up! Like he wasn’t even mad at me. Like as if I had been there the whole time, and maybe I had too much to drink and threw up and this was normal. I was sitting on his lap with what felt like vomit around my mouth and trying to explain to him that...didn’t I just get there? Like I hadn’t been there a second ago, right? I’m out of my body? I just got here because I wanted to see him. I tried asking him questions to learn where we were, what year this was, etc - no luck.

I don’t think I was actually brought to see the real A. on earth. I was either given a vision/simulation of ‘what might have been’ or this was some weird parallel life in a parallel dimension - did I "enter" the "body" of a parallel ME in another dimension, living out a different life? It felt very ‘sliding doors” - there were what presented as NP helper entities that were explaining to me that what I was currently experiencing represented the “quiet possibility” (those are two exact words I do remember) that they wanted to show me - the “quiet possibility” of what would have been our life if he and I had really gone for a romantic relationship. The entity seemed to try to tell me that it was a good thing that we didn’t go down that path, because “you’d have to teach him how to live life” and apparently that would have been not the best option for me in my own life.

Yet, to whatever the “A.” was that was there, I felt nothing but love, and got nothing but love from him. He and I kissed. The NP lesson seemed to be that a life with him in the romantic sense was not the life for me, but what they SHOWED me wasn’t a “bad” life at all. How bad is it to be enduringly loved by someone who isn’t mad at you for throwing up on them? LOL!!

Just goes to show you gotta be specific with what you ask. I asked to see my friend by name, and instead of taking me to see the "real" A...they were like suuuuuuure yeah we'll take you to see him and I get a weird simulation sliding doors vision or who knows what!?
8  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal ** Looking for help analyzing/understanding them! ** on: May 20, 2021, 20:00:34
I have to admit, this is something I think/worry about a lot. In fact, I've been thinking/worrying about it since the beginning! In part because I don't get clear answers, but also because of all the physical "pain" I've been caused. I'm not sure there's a way to know with 100% certainty if something is acting with my best interest at heart. I generally only ask to be taken to my spirit guides or my highest self - so if I *am* taken to them, presumably they're operating for my greater good. I don't know how I would be taken somewhere else, tho - some believe that it is in fact aspects of our highest self that does the "taking/transporting" of us! But I honestly don't know, I really don't. Sometimes I think maybe I've encountered something bad or at least meddling, other times I don't know. I just don't know there's a way to know this for sure. I don't know of any "fool proof" way to make sure we make contact with something that is only good/helpful.
9  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal ** Looking for help analyzing/understanding them! ** on: May 18, 2021, 21:57:14
Hi Nameless, thanks for stopping by! The best of any thoughts I had I already put in there (i.e., not much). I don't try to "turn over" these experiences too much after I have them, because it'll just drive me crazy. Whatever sense I make at the time, I write it down, and then generally don't go back to read them again. I just let the new experiences come, on the hope that eventually, one day, things will start to make sense! I'd love to hear your thoughts.
10  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: The Doorway on: May 17, 2021, 17:04:09
You're definitely not Bat$hit crazy!! Appreciate all you've said in this thread.

You're so right that creating a "port" for "astral mode" can be very important and helpful. You're describing making a ritual, so I'd like to share some things I've learned through my shamanism courses, picking a few that I think are relevant.

1) The Container - you start by creating a sacred space that will "contain" the practice, demarcate that here and now we are doing this special thing, i.e., it's "time", and keep you surrounded by good energy. You can do something to bless or clear the room/area if you want, you can incorporate special/sacred objects, you can do an invocation, calling in helping spirits - like Lumaza says, his container is the bath, his mantra, and the time of day. You may want to use crystals, a specific place (like a recliner) you may want to listen to certain music (even just before you start, to signal to you we're in "sacred" mode now!), "wake up" the space and its energies using a rattle, drumming, clapping, etc, create an altar with power objects, etc. Basically, how do you carve out/demarcate THIS special place and THIS special time? Imagine creating that space means surrounding your "area" with good energy on all sides, above and below you - bluish white, or gold, or whatever color works for you. What do you need to do to create that? Any of the above things could do that for you. Objects to represent the elements, the directions, a simple invocation and acknowledgement of your "workspace" -Whatever works for you.

2) Intention - clearly stating the goal or purpose of what you're doing. Can be very general/open-ended or specific.

Afterwards, 3) Grounding - after you come back, it can help to engage in a grounding practice - I remember that time that Lumaza said he got out of the bath too quickly and hadn't really "grounded" yet and got dizzy! This can also include acknowledgment of and commitment to what you've learned/received on your journey/projection, and writing out everything can be a good way to integrate/ground/acknowledge.

4) Dispersing - this is closing the ritual and the space. You dissolve the container you've created that you built at the beginning of the ritual. This may involve thanking your spirit guides, saying goodbye for now, bowing in the 4 directions to express gratitude, and in general dispersing the energies you've called in and created during your process.


The "after effects of images" suggestion is interesting - one way to create that for yourself without starting at a candle (not sure if that's good for the retinas!) is to take a white sheet of computer paper, and then cut a smaller square of black construction paper and glue/tape that in the center. So you have something of high contrast - black on white - or you can do the reverse, white on black! Stare at that for a while and you'll see the reverse image when you close your eyes. That is, if you do black on white, the image you see when you close your eyes will be the opposite: instead of dark on light, it will be light on dark. No bigs, that's just how our brains work, but the high contrast and strong shape are shoe-ins to make this happen. (I see after effects of things all the time without staring at them for long because I just have visual disturbances as part of my chronic illness, so I'm usually trying to *not* see those things! haha LOL)
11  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: The Doorway on: May 15, 2021, 20:13:03
Thank you for all this wonderful information, Lumaza! The idea of an anchor/repeatable experience is pretty fundamental in shamanism, and I've been struggling to get any consistency in my AP experiences and what (or, who!) I encounter there. This is a timely reminder for me on things I have so much work to do on!
12  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal ** Looking for help analyzing/understanding them! ** on: May 08, 2021, 17:39:38
I'm a little behind, so here are three different recent days!


5 May 2021

Huh

Jumble experiences this morning, possibly just weird lucid dreams, or some kind of combination, I’m not sure. What I do know is that I was at the very least lucid and *trying* to project. These are the only things I can remember:

Having some experience and then asking, “What was the place I was?”

I heard the reply, from somewhere (didn’t actually see anyone, it was just a response): “$hitty sleep.”

Like, OK, is that your cute way of telling me that I wasn’t actually projecting? This voice literally said “$hitty” sleep!

At some other point, I once again was asking about my mission, and was told: “Who are you to peek? To know the good you have to do, without having good to do it with?”

As in, you don’t get to know right now, you have to have a certain thing inside you to “earn” the knowledge of your mission; you can’t know your mission until you have what it takes to actually do it; until then, you don’t get to know.

And I’m like, yeah well maybe if I know what I have to do that might help me get to the point where I can do it. Kinda helps to have an endpoint in sight so you know what you have to work towards.

Then, another set of strange call and response from the disembodied voice in the dark:

“Take me to the memory of X” - I don’t remember what it was. There had been some strange experience/information about the importance of memories, processing memories, remembering certain things, etc.

Reply: “You should go to the memory of Y”  - some other thing.

“Who is that?” I asked of this disembodied voice.

Reply: “Your highest self.”

Well, that’s helpful! “Then take me to my highest self!” I said excitedly.

Reply: “That’s not going to work.”

Srsly?!?! My highest self is a smart butt.

“Take me to my highest self anyway!!” I insisted. I don’t think I actually got there, that’s all I remember.


7 May 2021

Huh

Another spate of jumble experiences this morning. Something about my me being “really” a bobcat inside, my helper seemed to be named “Eric”, and more about the importance of memories, and remembering certain things. Something about it being important for me to remember when one of my baby teeth was knocked out (false, this never actually happened); something that looked like a scene, as I was shown, on a plantation, where there were slaves being cruelly overworked (what does this have to do with anything??). Then at some point “Eric” seemed to tell me that I approach things/life with happiness. I talked to this helper about how I don’t know how long I’m going to be able to “stay”, because at some point I can’t keep the focus and I wind up back in my body. Then, my vision started to go. So then he injected something into the right side of my head (probably around my right temple), and I felt it there as well as in my right ankle. That was it, I woke up.


8 May 2021

Was having a dream, became lucid. As soon as I did, I decided to try to project. Asked to be taken to my spirit guides.

Felt myself start to turn/move in space. Usually during the transit I keep my eyes closed. But this time I started to peek my eyes open. At first, in the tiny bit one of my “eyes” was opened, I saw a massive, unhuman eye looking right back at me, right in front of my face. I opened my eyes fully and saw a funny little head. Definitely not human. The eyes were massive, skin pale. Small little thing (there were possibly two of them, I held one’s hand), like imagine something 18 inches tall. I was a bit startled by their appearance by told myself whatever they were, they were clearly helping me, and I said thank you to them (or it, if it was just one, not sure).

I was taken to a room in a house, it seemed. Furnished, homey. The room was empty. This was a room to wait in. I was asked, next time please make an appointment (if I want to see my spirit guides).

I have to...MAKE AN APPOINTMENT?! I thought. What’s all this? I’ve never been asked to make an appointment before…

Anyway, they/it told me the way to make an appointment was to write the appointment request on a piece of cardboard. The little creature gave me a piece of paper with examples of requests written in a few different languages/alphabets. None were recognizable. The little creature left.

Eventually, the room began to fill up with people - other people who were waiting. Probably already had appointments, ha! I saw a couple, Asian, but who seemed to be American, husband and wife. I asked them if they could translate/explain the written request system, that this was my first time there.

They tried explaining but it was hard to hear/understand. Soon enough, multiple people waiting in the room tried explaining it to me, but I couldn’t hear/understand.

Then, an employee of some sort, who also looked Asian, came in, and offered me something from a tray. I was clearly supposed to take one and do something with it. The things on the tray looked hot/warm and steaming. I couldn’t tell if it was one of those rolled moist towelettes you’re supposed to clean your hands with, or some sort of edible noodle!

Again, I explained that this was my first time, and told him I wasn’t sure what I was supposed to do. It seemed clear this was something I had to do before being admitted to see my spirit guides. He did explain but his voice was quiet and it was hard to hear him. Eventually, it seemed it was edible, I got the impression he wanted me to eat it, and that I was supposed to swallow the entire piece in one gulp. Like just open your throat and down it all at once (rather than chewing it up).

I was still a little flustered/nervous, because I didn’t really hear the instructions, and I was afraid I’d mess up/do it wrong. I didn’t want to make a mistake.

But, I opened my mouth to swallow it down, and as I started to do that I woke up.
13  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal ** Looking for help analyzing/understanding them! ** on: May 02, 2021, 04:37:13
(fascinating, towards the very end he casually mentions soul-part retrieval!)
14  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal ** Looking for help analyzing/understanding them! ** on: May 02, 2021, 03:39:05
Thank you for the link to the talks, Lumaza!
15  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal ** Looking for help analyzing/understanding them! ** on: May 01, 2021, 18:27:12
Thanks, Nameless =) I appreciate that!
16  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Re: Thoughts constantly create_Watch them closely on: May 01, 2021, 18:25:06
Huh? What do you mean the water "died"?
17  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Re: Thoughts constantly create_Watch them closely on: May 01, 2021, 05:52:46

Hesitantly later I did the opposite and I'll never do that again. Water is a miracle fluid. I believe that and our thoughts are just as fluid. Below is a link to a video I think you all might find interesting.


Do you mean you tried to imbue "bad" thoughts into water and you drank it? Whahappen??
18  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal ** Looking for help analyzing/understanding them! ** on: May 01, 2021, 05:51:34
Thanks, EV! Those books are on my must-read list, and I admit I'm a little chomping at the bit to read them, but I've been restraining myself. I feel like I need a better foundation or experiential "lay of the land" first; I'm soooo itching to get them, but if I have a certain experience *after* I read them, then I'll always have to wonder whether it was just my own subconscious "noise".

Odd, how the idea of a "mission", which is so fundamental for each one of us, seems to be something They are reluctant to just tell us!
19  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal ** Looking for help analyzing/understanding them! ** on: April 29, 2021, 19:52:24
Strange, fragmented experiences this morning that I can hardly even organize/write about.

I dreamt that I was sleeping somewhere, projected from there. I wonder whether I actually projected or if this was still "just a dream". There was someone that looked like a "fairy godmother" character. I asked her if she knows what my mission is and she said yes - I told her that no one will tell me what my mission is even tho I keep asking. She said, "Don't beg for food" and then something like, "You need to come in" or "You need to go thru the door" - something like that. I asked her to tell me more information about things, but she said I wouldn't remember. This is not the first time I've been told that I wouldn't remember something, so they didn't even try telling me.

At the time, I interpreted this to mean something like, stop begging us to give you the answer; step into it/take it/go there before you "know". Not sure, it was a vague impression.

I was in and out multiple times, and at one point I had an experience where someone, a woman (not the 'fairy godmother') told me that my "real name" is Remnis. I "wrote it down" multiple times in the NP to make sure I would remember, and googled it just now. Remnis is the name of a FICTIONAL CHARACTER from Dungeons and Dragons (lord of the eagles!). I've never even played Dungeons and Dragons! I have no idea how I would know this name, but also, I am obviously not a fictional character lol

The extra annoying thing is that I've been told my "real name/soul's name" from three different sources and they're all different. This does make me question the validity of some NP stuff, because the information all conflicts. In one of my first out of body experiences almost a year ago, I was told that the name of my soul is "Amorphis". A shaman/channeler/energy worker (in real life) told me my name involved Hebrew letters that would transliterate to something like "Anella" (messenger of god; light). Conflicting information doesn't inspire confidence =(
20  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Speaking a different language on: April 27, 2021, 02:23:37
I don't think I've "spoken" another language while out, but I've heard words/phrases in other languages. I got "kokostika" which I THINK is Latvian (anyone here know Latvian?  cheesy). Once I got "keva," which turns out to mean a "fixed ritual" in Judaism. I got something that seemed German, once, but I don't think it was a real word.
21  Astral Chat / Welcome to News and Media! / Re: The Military's Intelligence Assessment of The Monroe Institute's Program on: April 24, 2021, 19:05:42

 moving into much higher Focus levels such as F22, 23,24,25,26 and 27 (the Park).



Wow, what a cool conversation. I've tried a few times to understand what the Focus levels are about and how to differentiate between them but can't really wrap my head around it. Pretty quickly I decided that was one conversation I was going to sit out!

I recently re-read Monroe's first book, Journeys Out of the Body, and toward the end of the book he talks about how his NP experiences, and how it all physically felt for his body, changed over the years. He divided it into three stages, I think - the early years, middle, and later (of course, "later" years was still relatively early if you consider this was only his first book!). It was pretty spiffy to go back and read his book again after almost a year of having OBEs myself. I could see some similarity in that natural (or at least unintentional) shift from "classic" exit to phasing. I gotta admit, tho, I really wish the classic exits would come back for me! The shift happened pretty fast and I just wasn't ready to say goodbye to those experiences yet. Been trying to get them back but no dice yet.

The TMI courses sound really amazing. Altho pricey, not for the faint of pocketbook! Maybe one day =) I kinda like that they don't "prime" you to expect certain things, that way, if those things happen to you it's easier to accept that they're "really happening" and not just the power of suggestion.
22  Astral Chat / Welcome to News and Media! / Re: The Military's Intelligence Assessment of The Monroe Institute's Program on: April 24, 2021, 05:19:00
Really interesting threat, ya'll. I am also curious if there's still any thing any branch of the military is doing w/r/t OBEs and whathaveyou. Doubt they'd tell us if they were!

But, along the lines of the 'conspiracy' this Jay person thinks: if TMI were purposefully trying to not publicly teach "exiting" because the military said not to, wouldn't there be some kinda governmental crackdown on public forums like the Pulse? There are so many places people can learn how to do it, and I'd wager TMI is just a teeny tiny fraction of a sliver of where people go to learn. Most get books and read about it online. Intentionally "shutting down" the "exit education" of TMI would be like the least efficient way to keep that information from the masses! LOL
23  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal- tides2dust. Entries, Past Experiences, Notes and Questions on: April 22, 2021, 04:22:26
Cool! Yes I remember reading about shineling's awesome dragon-riding bonanza. You rode a dragon too? I sometimes fancifully think of it as an "energy cloud" when these sorts of synchronicity NP experiences happen. Like, oh, the same energy cloud musta been passing over both of our heads at the same time, haha! But in all seriousness, I think if we believe at all, even remotely, that there is a shared non-physical reality, then there must be features/entities that more of us can experience at the same time (or, close to the same time). Here's a fun one: a year ago or so I was in a shaman class and the other student and I laid on the floor with our heads pointed together, doing our own separate journeys. We were supposed to find an animal to shapeshift into. The first thing I encountered was a massive green python. It definitely seemed "there" and not my imagination. I even tried shapeshifting into it for a bit, but it was kinda a "meh" experience and just didn't feel "right". Didn't feel like it was "my" animal" I was supposed to work with right then. So I left and kept looking. Anyway, after we're done and time to share our respective experiences. The other student said her animal that she shapeshifted into was -- you guessed it -- a massive green python. We totally both saw the same entity, and somehow I knew it wasn't there "for me". Because it was there for her! Don't think it's a coincidence - what would be the odds of that? So I do think that sorta thing does indeed happen =)
24  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: Projection Journal- tides2dust. Entries, Past Experiences, Notes and Questions on: April 21, 2021, 19:01:24
Strange! I had a spew of experiences this morning (honestly too scattered to even write a post about) but it involved seeing parts of my body were made of wires and robot-like things, and I was basically being chased and wanting to hide from my pursuers because they wanted to do things like twist nail screws into my head (like in my temples) to get my memories or something. Just lots of things that would involve yet more pain. Not sure what's up with this robot theme  huh huh huh
25  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: shineling’s APs on: April 20, 2021, 04:33:22
Spectacular! As soon as you mentioned a dragon I was hoping there'd be a ride on it like in the Neverending Story or something. You didn't disappoint!  grin
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