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26  World Cultures, Traditions and Religions / Welcome to World Cultures, Traditions and Religions! / Summoning spirits: deceit of the devils on: April 26, 2006, 07:41:47
Yes Beth but he did post it in the "Welcome to world Religions!" sub forum. I dont think you can get more general than 'world religions'  wink

On a more serious note... yea this isn't really a forum for preaching, there are plenty of them out there where that fits in fine. On the other side Jibreel didnt really come across to me as though he was trying to convert us,  moreso that he was just presenting his views or throwing some ideas out there.

But each to their own i guess.
27  World Cultures, Traditions and Religions / Welcome to World Cultures, Traditions and Religions! / Energy manipulation is luciferian? on: April 19, 2006, 07:49:03
Yea along with CFTraveler... it really does depend on the particular denomination. However within the more er... literal denominations most things that are considered paranormal are considered evil or against the christain way. Mostly due to a different view or a lack of understanding... but simply because these things are not "of God" as such evil.

However unless you are an extremist christian i wouldn't worry about it. I dont personally believe it is Luciferian but that is due to the fact i do not believe in lucifer in the traditional sense. But each individual is entitled to his or her beliefs so the fact is some people will always consider it evil and others will argue that. The truth will be found in your own choices.
28  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / My friend might die? on: April 18, 2006, 07:50:00
That sucks...
He could try an excorsist (do they get ghosts out too??) i mean im n ot a big believer in it, but if he has a spirit problem then why not try someone who specialises in getting rid of them.
29  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Saw threw my eye lids. on: April 18, 2006, 07:43:09
Yea i have this some times as well.. although never clearly i always saw it in inverted shades of Grey. As in all the dark bits of my room were light and the light bits dark. that's how i knew i wasn't just seeing shadows.

grin but isn't it cool
30  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / I'm awake now! on: April 17, 2006, 10:37:19
Good story, i hate/love dreams where you wake up with a physical movement.

I hate it when (i daydream a lot ) im randomly daydreaming and suddlenly ill fall and wake up with a huge jump, and the adrenilan stays flowing for ages.

And i love it (so cool) when it'ws as if your dream predictics something is going to happen in the physical and builds up to the moment of the sound, movement what ever then you wake up. Like youll be imagining yourself doing something and then suddlenly there is this clock next to you and a few seconds later the alarm rings. or you die in a dream the exact moment someone knocks on your door.

fun grin
31  Integral Philosophy / Welcome to Integral Philosophy! / What is "Integral Philosophy"? on: April 17, 2006, 08:29:38
I think going by the individual meaning of each word that an Integral Philosophy is a fundamental belief or ideology.

er... a Central Belief to an individual, a belief nessecary to form the whole belief system.  god how do i explain this.... the base internal beliefs of the whole system.

hmmm... well ive repeated myself enough grin

you could always look in a dictionary.
32  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Spritual awakening and OBE on: April 17, 2006, 08:17:03
Nice site actually. I have just realised that all my beliefs about projection, higher reality and existance in general have gone in a great circle since i first began to want to learn about them.

Back on track i really liked your site, its well put together and gets to the point. I believe one of the most important things about belief is that each individual be allowed to hold their own. To the ultimate extent that they are able to develop on their own, their individual philosiphies and belief structures form from their own learning process through the help of teachers. Which they can choose to heed or ignore. Anyway im rambleing once again (whats new grin) yea your site allows a resonably open minded view on a topic that is heavily clouded. It does hold parts of your own beliefs but there is nothing wrong with that.

Good job.
33  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / My friend might die? on: April 17, 2006, 03:18:22
Wow... i mean that's no small thing. One of my friends uncle had an 'encounter' with a "ghost" as he described it and after 2 years of torment ended up in a mental hospital. There is probably a much higher chance of him losing his grip on sanity than a "spirit" killing him. However with a loss of sanity comes suicidal behavior or he may see something and get scared, putting himself in danger.

It seems like it is the house that is causing all this, the only suggestion i can give is that he stays the f**k away from it. If that is possible... does he have to move back in?
34  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / hi, im new here on: March 18, 2006, 05:50:23
I dont get any results untill a few months in, and you get it first go... grin welcome to the forums
35  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / AP Software on: March 16, 2006, 20:53:38
MJ is right you should both collaborate... but ill let you speak about that privatly smiley
36  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Dream Journaling Software on: March 16, 2006, 20:49:49
Awsome, thanks they both sound like great pieces of software. You should both collaborate your work as MJ suggested. That way it'll be twice as cool grin
37  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / The questions you never knew how to ask on: March 16, 2006, 20:48:14
Woohoo.... the matrix has you.
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Why would we have such an endless world at our disposal? What purpose does it create past our own entertainment?


For me this is the essence of it. As you know it goes by a few names such as "the astral" or FoC2 depending on your scientific  or mystical view. Neither is wrong rather they are just different interpretations on the same thing. Anyway I'm getting off topic... my point is, That the area of us having everything is simply our imagination, it is the purest form of thought, here everything is controlled by what you think.

Many people have said that the only limits we have are the corners of our imagination. This "everything" world covers and is everything because it is fully imagined... anything is possible. So what purpose does it serve... well every time you think of something it comes from here, every time you work something out it is done so here. It is purely your imagination. Our entertainment comes when we are able to move into this and explore this huge playground.

Are there restrictions? For me no but for many yes. I think these restrictions are put there because it is not a normal human thing to have this perfect "everything" without something negative... When the ancient medieval projectors projected, they happily decided that there should be some negs involved with it... mostly a scare tactic so that only they could do it. Some of those fears and Mystical beliefs have held on today, just as organized religion has. I'm not saying they are wrong, rather simply that they have a belief in something like this is the most amazing thing of all. They just don't work for me. grin

The truth for me lies in the fact that a part of me just knows it all exists, i don't know why as it isn't really based on anything but sometimes we just need to believe.

Also one of my friends was telling me yesterday that 1 neuron in your brain is capable of processing tons of information. Thousands of neurons process our senses and keep the body functioning, but for every one of these processing neurons there are nine others that are connected to something else that is not possibly measurable or understandable using today's modern science. and they say there is nothing out there.

grin

i think not.
38  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / OMG I just cant do it!!!! im sick and tired of this urgghhh on: March 16, 2006, 20:26:44
Yea aiming for a lucid dream is a great place to start, they can be amazing experiances in themself. And once you get one you will go "yes... halfway there" grin And that is exactly right they are as many people have said, stepping stones to a fully blown projection.
39  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / HAPPY BIRTHDAY SELSKI on: March 15, 2006, 21:10:28
Happy Birthday grin
40  Dreams / Welcome to Dreams! / Dream Journaling Software on: March 15, 2006, 21:09:05
Same as with mr jingo, if you get a mac release going then im more than happy to beta test. And to both of you, it really is a great idea.
41  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / AP Software on: March 15, 2006, 20:33:56
If you get a mac release happening then ill be happy to test for you.
42  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / OMG I just cant do it!!!! im sick and tired of this urgghhh on: March 15, 2006, 20:33:21
You think two months is frustrating, try two years and counting... some people need even longer grin . Just do what i did, tried hard for about 3 months and then just relaxed, let things happen naturally, i mean try hard to make an exit seriously every now and then. But otherwise just be cool about it all, just think about it and try a little before you go to bed each night.

Does it matter if you get it right away, no because you know you will in time. You have been doing this nearly every night since you were born, and you will continue to do it, you just need to "be" fully there when it happens.

Also you might try and work out fully what you believe. I know for me it is probably not going to fully happen until i realize what it is I'm trying to do, completely.

As always Good Luck.
just keep persevering and you WILL do it in time.
43  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Rush on: March 14, 2006, 07:07:05
I haven't projected so i wouldn't know for sure but i think basically this holds true...

just relax... forget any goals to start with then once your ready do what you want to do.

chill :hippy1:
44  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Serious Question: Why havent you found Osama? on: March 12, 2006, 21:00:17
Fair enough... wasn't one realeased just a while ago. I didn't see it but someone was telling me that he was "making a stand" again.
45  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Serious Question: Why havent you found Osama? on: March 12, 2006, 20:43:18
Don't the states have an annoying habit of saying people are dead when they are really not?

Mabye im just misinformed, highly possible grin
46  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Few Phasing Questions on: March 12, 2006, 20:39:11
Is it just me or was that just a stab at Frank, oh fires rain down from the sky at you, may locusts eat your eyes, how dare you insult our merciful master, may you....

well you get the point,  
Seriously though (please note that i do not worship frank nor will i ever, and i don't want fire to rain down on you) I do understand what your saying, and yes in his FoC4 he may have had personal dreams it is impossible to tell, however in theory the basis of FoC4 is that it is separate completely from the physical, or enlightenment as you so eloquently put it.
47  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Serious Question: Why havent you found Osama? on: March 12, 2006, 20:33:00
I think what we are trying to say, religious bs aside is that you shouldn't be asking us to prove some thing you know very little about, if you did you would understand that it doesn't really work like that.

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Hi I'm new here but from what I have just read, you all seem to be jumping on Abraham's back with no valid reason.
He asked a simple question and I for one seem to think he has a point. I was under the impression that if you thought of somebody when you were projecting then you would go to that person.


Dreameruk its not really that simple a question, sure it may seem that way but it is the same as asking anyone to 'prove' their religious view (not that ours is a particulary religious one) but it is the same general concept. Also one of the great things about humanity is that when someone questions someone elses beliefs, that person is predisposed to get angry, frustrated and to defend that belief to the very end, so that is pretty much why we are all attacking Abraham so easily.
48  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Serious Question: Why havent you found Osama? on: March 12, 2006, 11:53:29
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God would never protect a murderer and a manipulator who justifies his murderous actions by distorting the practices...


That's odd i thought god supported bush wink

But on a serious note Abraham, i agree with everyone else here. Firstly it hasn't Really been on my mind to look for osama, secondly it doesn't really work like that. Learn more about something before you critisise it, or at least before you ask us to "prove" it.

as WarpedReality said, we have nothing to prove to you.
Your entitled to your beliefs just as we are entitled to ours.
49  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Few Phasing Questions on: March 12, 2006, 02:40:25
Ben K that was a much better explanation than i could have given. cheers grin
50  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Few Phasing Questions on: March 09, 2006, 06:06:32
i am pretty sure, dont quote me on this, that FoC3-4 are separte from FoC1-2, as such yes they can exist without the other in the sense that once you die, you will be in 3-4 as such the other two are no longer needed.

When you die it doesn't mean that 1-2 dont exist it just means they dont exist (in the way they are irrelevant) to you.
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