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1  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Best "loosening" technique? on: August 28, 2022, 16:24:56
I know a good way of loosening up when you want to AP. I do it when I’m almost asleep or deeply resting to facilitate exiting. It’s hard to describe but I’ll do my best…

While your laying there resting you sorta “excite” your skin. It’s almost like if you were raising the temperature on your skin and about an inch into your flesh.

This really helps me exit even when I’m not that asleep.
I think I know what you mean.  I used to do that a lot as a kid to help get out of bed.  But I think that's more of an energy raising technique.  If anything, I think this should centre attention on your physical body.  I'm curious how you use this project.

Wow. That is absolutely brilliant.

I use present attention to shift, but things like fall within its scope, in the present attention you begin to "notice" things. - things like differentials, such as temperature, textures, sensation. But, yes, you can go right to certain things you like to notice, too. I can so often forget this so I just want to say thank you!

And thank you to the OP who asks the question. ( excellent ).
Casey
So you basically use the noticing phasing technique, but instead of focusing on visual changes you focus on changes in sensations on your physical body?
2  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Best "loosening" technique? on: August 21, 2022, 17:50:41
3  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Best "loosening" technique? on: August 21, 2022, 17:46:32
Frank Kepple seemed to believe that the top of the head was a key element in projection.

He said it's like there's a sensor that extends downwards into the body from the top of the head to enable physical-body sensations, which, if you instead directed up, would do the opposite.  So one of his techniques was moving "up", with attention placed on the top of the head.

I've been wondering for a while now what variation of this "directional movement" technique would be most effective. There's:
  • Frank's moving up from the head technique
  • Feeling movement in any random direction with the whole body
  • Feeling movement in any random direction with the whole bed/room/house
  • Moving in any direction with a greater sense of strain with the rope technique
  • Spinning
  • Moving in two opposite directions simultaneously
  • Doing any of the above within imagination, e.g. skydiving / riding a lift

Most would suggest all techniques are best done within imagination as the physical just interferes, yet with the rope technique you're climbing an imaginary rope superimposed on the physical.  Frank's technique puts focus on the physical head.  And in my own experience the sensation of movement is felt most strongly when I imagine my physical body moving, I would assume because of etheric energy gaining inertia.

So is "forget the body" bad advice?  Is it best to focus on the crown chakra like Frank suggests?  What has been your experience?
4  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Has anyone tried becoming an animal? on: August 21, 2022, 17:23:05
If you count "SPIDER"man as animal.  grin

I once became Spiderman and was swinging between high-rise blocks shooting my net out from my arms and then also did some sommersaults hanging on it in a kind of big city back yard.

(I used to read spiderman comics a lot as a child, that might be the reason why it worked?)

Spidermaning sounds like a good exit technique.  I've been wondering if it's a better alternative to the rope.
5  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Has anyone tried becoming an animal? on: August 16, 2022, 02:38:17
Just wondering.  Has anyone tried living as a cat or something during an AP?  I think it's generally difficult to throw away your humanity and fully become some animal.  I always used to see life as a cat as heaven.  No worries, sleep anywhere anytime, no clothes, always comfortable, etc.
6  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: How important is being physically tired / the sleep reflex? on: August 01, 2022, 23:21:24
This is a very good question Kree. I can't say I have a definitive answer for you but will note my personal observations and think you might be on to something.

I have long noted that my most active times have always or nearly always been at my most tired. I am not talking just being sleepy but being exhausted, totally wiped out with anxiety, worry, extreme activity, illness and such over a long period of time. I think it is because of a natural disconnect experienced at those times. When I am well rested and life is smooth I actually need to do a bit of meditating and work to get the same results.

I think this speaks to how capable we are of 'not thinking' and letting our minds just tiptoe around at any time. Which is why many people need to be very relaxed (sleepy) and others can walk and talk at the same time.

My experience has been the same.  But the sleep switch gets triggered most easily at a time when I'm tired enough to take a nap, but not tired enough to actually sleep fully.  I think Frank Kepple's talked about getting through the sleep barrier or something, I'll have to reread his posts again.

I'm hoping that, with enough experience, sleep won't be necessary.
7  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / How important is being physically tired / the sleep reflex? on: July 31, 2022, 17:21:31
I know ideally you need like 6h of sleep or to be a little tired to maximize your chances of phasing, but, from what I read, the most experienced phasers don't seem to have this limitation.

I've started taking practice seriously again and what I've recently noticed is there's a "sleep switch" that activates 5-30m in.  I think that's what's responsible for falling asleep / losing consciousness.  It's a sudden event, like a punch to the face, with the sole purpose of beginning sleep.  I'm assuming this is the key to phasing, but I know how people like Tom Campbell can phase while walking/talking in the physical, so perhaps the key is something else.

I can usually manage to maintain consciousness through the event, but the act of me noticing the switch seems to snap me back and I don't transition anywhere, or at least not properly.  Yet if I don't notice the sleep switch then I, of course, inevitably fall asleep.
8  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Getting stuck at Focus 3 state on: April 16, 2022, 21:35:20
after a few minutes, I don't feel anything any more. I just mentally traverse down the darkness that I see before my eyes and allow it the freedom to show me what I need to see or teach me what I need to learn. I see the darkness before my eyes as a "tunnel, cave, hallway, etc., something that I can mentally enter.
Would you say the key element here is the "seeing" whatever is "shown" to you, or is it the "feeling of movement" that's more important?
Do you intentionally create the sensation or does it just happen by itself because that's your intent?

I image you could even do this with eyes open, if the sensation is all that's needed.
9  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: "A Guide for OBE Induction" by Luciano Pederzoli & Patrizio E. Tressoldi on: April 16, 2022, 21:29:32
You need to hire a hypnotist to use this book??

Is this basically just a mental rundown?
10  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: My Spiritual Service on: March 10, 2022, 05:07:17
Hello, Kree.. where lies your confusion? did you watch the video? read the thumbnail up there? I know it is sort of hard to wrap your mind around, just trying to get clear where your confusion is. In a nutshell what this is, is contact with extraterrestrial intelligence. Our galactic neighbors. Beings in other reality-frequencies. I am able to tune into them, if you will, receive their signal(s) and bring them in a visual format through the crystals. Much in the way someone might through other apparatus, more technological devices, such as a radio, or satellite, or computer device.

You channel aliens into a crystal and take pictures of their eyes?? shocked
11  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Sources of motivation? on: March 10, 2022, 02:00:56
Ask your guides/helpers for motivation. I find them to be far more creative than I could imagine on my own.

Interesting suggestion.  I've never felt like I have any contact with them.  But I'll try it🤷‍♂️
12  Metaphysics / Welcome to Metaphysics! / Re: My Spiritual Service on: March 10, 2022, 01:53:18
I'm confused. What is this?
13  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Sources of motivation? on: February 26, 2022, 22:53:18
When I first started practicing about 10 years ago I had crazy high motivation for about 2 whole years.

At this point it's hard to stay motivated.  I sometimes get motivated for a week or two after reading some forum threads, but then it just disappears.  I got Chronic Fatigue Syndrome a couple years ago and that makes it even harder to maintain motivation and to do the practice itself.



What are the best sources of motivation/inspiration?  Any YouTube channels? Or anything else?  I feel like if it's on my mind more often it will be easier to stay motivated, but it's not exactly a topic that gets covered much on YouTube or the internet in general.
14  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Progress on: November 19, 2021, 22:40:42
This morning I did the "moving left" technique, or whatever you'd call it.  I completely left the physical in under 5 minutes.  I thought I was in my room but couldn't really see anything, I may have seen glimpses of my room but it wasn't clear.  I wonder if this was the void, a LD, or what.  I heard loud buzzing in this state, which I assumed was binaural beats from my headphones, but only afterwards did I remember I had no headphones on or anything.  I also heard a very loud voice of a man talking about astral projection, I completely ignored what he was saying as I just found it annoying, lol.

The most annoying thing, though, was that I felt I couldn't do anything from this state.  I tried to move but I couldn't tell if I was going anywhere.  I kept trying to swim with my non-physical arms, but nothing happened.  Moving left more also seemed to not have much effect.  The arms felt very real, and definitely non-physical, so that's something.  Maybe I should've climbed a rope or something.  The experience lasted only a few minutes, but when I came back my sense of time was off.  It felt like I was gone for at least an hour.


My memory's a bit patchy, but what might've triggered this was biting my teeth together in a weird way (not sure if physically or not as I can't replicate the exact teeth-contact sensation).  I let the teeth touch → rolled over (again not sure if physically or not) → felt myself moving left → saw a slight flash and then.. → separation into the buzzing NP environment.





Side note:
I am a bit surprised I achieved this without meditating, as Tom Campbell would have you believe deep meditation / point-consciousness is paramount.  I didn't meditate, I still had physical focus prior to separation, I didn't go through sleep paralysis, I didn't do any relaxation at all, I didn't do any visualisation, yet I still phased into the NP without any effort smiley
I'll add, in previous attempts I'd often get rapid heard beat when I felt "close", yet this time I just felt a little hot, and that's it.
15  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Can someone explain Vehram to me? on: November 07, 2021, 23:10:47
I am glad you asked that question. I don't use elaborate techniques anymore. Nowadays, I ride the directional focus as far it wants to take me. Meaning, that a simple focus on a forward direction or and direction is normally all it takes to end up some where else. It doesn't take long at all either. This the result or should I say, the reward, for the last 10 years of almost daily practice that I did and still do today.

 Constantly using different kinds of focus targets leads to many different experiences. That is why it is good to explore in every way, shape or form that you can!  smiley

I'm wondering now, have you noticed any benefits to doing energy raising (e.g. New Energy Ways)?
16  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Can someone explain Vehram to me? on: November 07, 2021, 20:09:33
LOL. "He", "Lionheart", is me! That was a name I first used years ago here on the Astral Pulse.  wink

I had suspected this but was confused for a while.  Always wondered where he went, as I've been here since 2012.

and it really does work! It teaches you how to "hold" your focus for a extended period of time. Even though you are focused on a "physical bodily" action, it is your "etheric body" that is having all of those sensations. I used what I learned from the Phantom Wiggle and various other proven techniques to create my Doorway thread. I started the Doorway thread with simple focus targets like Geometric shapes and color. But soon I implemented the 6 pt directional focus into it. I still use that today. Like they say, "if it's not broken. don't fix it"!  smiley

With your etheric body so loose, do you even need such elaborate techniques?  I would think a simple falling/rising sensation should be enough, or something like what Frank used to do.
17  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Can someone explain Vehram to me? on: November 07, 2021, 05:05:23
Thank you for the fill in Nameless!  smiley

 I have talked about the Vehram system and how I utilize it in my Doorway thread. You can also find some great info utilizing a six point focus here in this thread.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/how_exactly_do_you_perform_the_phantom_wiggle_method-t44583.0.html

 I have searched the internet for any updates or info on the Vehram system and have not found very much. I found more info and conversation about it doing a search on this very Forum here, the Astral Pulse. Use the search engine on the top right hand of the page here using the search title "Vehram system". Do your search from the home page though. Otherwise your search will only give results from the sub-forum you are currently in. I know most people know that. I am not so adept on the computer, so I have to find things out the hard way, but "trial and error". A lot of "error" though, lol!  grin


Ohh I remember this thread, just reread it all.  Damn, I forgot about those Lionheart posts.  He basically says to just spend more time in the NP while awake by creating tug-of-war sensations in all 6 directions from the body.  And that this will make any attempts much more successful.  Can't believe I stopped doing this.  But now I see even less reason to read the entire "Vehram System" book as I feel I now know all there is too it, lol.  Thanks for linking this, I'm now motivated again.


(btw, how I usually search the site is I google:  site:astralpulse.com "vehram" points
More readable than with in-site search, but idk if it gets as many results.)
18  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Re: Can someone explain Vehram to me? on: October 25, 2021, 03:40:03
Hi Kree,

Here on the pulse there are a couple good threads discussing the Vehram System.
Here: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_doorway-t46013.0.html

And here: (there may be more) http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/vehram_energy_system_offers_validation_for_oobes-t29898.0.html

Also try an internet search. Highlight this -> Vehram System and right click with your mouse and click internet search. Hope this helps.

Lumaza asked to me to give you these links. He's a little indisposed right now but will be back when he can. I know he would love to discuss this with you.

Good to hear.
I've looked online but could find little.
19  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Can someone explain Vehram to me? on: October 23, 2021, 21:57:15
I had the pdf a year ago but lost it. I've been interested in the rope technique but the Vehram system seems to be a more advanced version of the same "tug to get out" concept. I wouldn't be surprised if the underlying mechanism behind the techniques is the exact same.

I've read the "Vehram is brilliant" thread but it wasn't very helpful. iirc there are 6 points— I'm assuming for every direction you can move in—and for an OBE you need to pull on at least one of them.

What else is there to this? Can this be used on its own to "phase" from an awake state, or is it solely an "exit method" requiring trance/body-loosening/hypnagogia?
20  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / Sitting vs lying on: October 09, 2021, 02:12:21
I'm considering learning to sleep while sitting. Sitting seems to be the best position for meditation, but OBEs need complete relaxation, which is harder to achieve when sitting.  If I get used to sleeping sitting, maybe I'll have the perfect OBE position.

Does anyone do this or have any thoughts?
21  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Consciousness! / Re: Fast Exit Technique on: July 06, 2021, 10:00:39
So..

Step 1: Do the mental rundown technique.



That's it?
22  Astral Chat / Welcome to News and Media! / Re: A New Perspective on: July 06, 2021, 09:49:55
As the topic states, this is a "New" perspective. We all know that there are endless probabilities and possibilities in the multiverse. Our line of reality also has endless probabilities in which every possible event is a reality. That equation automatically makes everything a reality that exists in some form in the multiverse. For this guy, this is HIS reality, and on a personal level and by believing in such he will experience like life events in his own life. His dreams and NP/afterlife experiences may also be influenced by this belief.
I think that we see reality in very unique personal ways. What is the mass truth through the eyes of the mass consciousness now in this Earth and this probable reality, I can not say. I see it through my own eyes, and if my beliefs tend to be more positive and optimistic, this is how I will perceive the world, no matter what the masses see or what each individual person sees. I will see in each person the light and not the darkness, and so I will attract good people in my life. Those who fear and tend not to trust, will attract like events and people. AS much as we want to know the truth from a larger perspective, we must understand that reality is formed by all of us on individual and mass level. Again, everything and anything exists in this multiverse, no question. The question is, what do we want to focus on at this time. Because everything does exist, the good, the bad and the ugly. We can start looking for the bad and the ugly in order to fight and save the world. And we do to some extend on a subconscious and conscious level, but being consumed within this war, will never let us see the good side. These realities can NEVER have the balance we always search for. Because this is the design done on purpose, done by the very inhabitants of these realities, and these who want to focus on the war have wanted to be in one, so let them fight and learn. Those who want to live in bliss and love even here, only if they focus, will find predominantly love and bliss.

We KNOW the system, but we can lift ourselves ABOVE the system. Do you know what I mean.

This is the kind of content I expect from the forum, lol Smiley
Nicely put (though paragraphs would be nice).

Your point on infinite valid possibilities is an important one, but I was more referring to "understanding" reality, rather than just having a feel for its nature.  E.g. Hitler was just as good as [insert random saint here], he was God/Love/Consciousness just the same as anyone else, but at the same time we also know he was worse.  Sure, it's all a matter of perspective, but some perspectives are superior to others (in a subjectively objective way).

It's important not to let abstract spiritual ideas confuse our understanding like this, imo.  Some people will not see the nuances and believe you're telling them Hitler was a saint, or that AI, the internet, technology, 5G towers, etc. are the work of Lucifer, lol.  Yes, all views are valid, but there's more to it than that.
23  Astral Chat / Welcome to News and Media! / Re: A New Perspective on: July 03, 2021, 07:36:02
I was just listening to a guy, Tim Alberino, on youtube. Yes he has a book and yes there is a plug for the book in the vid. Just skip past and listen.

He makes sense to me and very well may be cracking the code, so to speak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpXTaVWmJ48

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Lucifer’s desire to destroy humanity, men and women made in the image of God, is hard for us to fathom. But throughout history, he’s tried to destroy everything God called good. Tim Alberino’s research on the genetic hybrids of Genesis 6 led directly to the catastrophic flood of Noah and the near destruction of the entire human race. His hatred of mankind continues to this day through transhumanism, artificial intelligence, and the destruction of man’s DNA.

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prophecywatchers.com


Nope.  Zero chance this guy has any valuable information to offer.  I'd put this below even F tier.
Looking like Tom Campbell, alone, just isn't enough to appear credible these days..


The guy doesn't even know what he's talking about.  Not only is he a belief-trapped stage Blue, he's also taking the bible literally.

He even demonizes transhumanism & AI..  WHAT?!

Can't believe I'm seeing this type of content on this forum.
24  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Out of Body Experiences! / The Gateway Experience vs Binaural Beats? on: June 04, 2021, 22:34:41
I've had TGE for some years now, but have only really tried the F10 track.  Gave up on it after hearing "you are now in focus 10" a hundred times.

The weird thing about TGE is, iirc, many of the tracks don't even go into theta.  So would seem less effective than just a theta BB track.  And I also hear that most of the tracks don't even provide a technique.  So I'm wondering what value is there to these tracks, for someone who just wants to phase?

I've also got a laxman light and sound machine, but can't really tell if it's any better than just a BB track.
25  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Astral Projection Experiences! / Re: What makes you believe in AP/OBEs? on: September 25, 2020, 04:07:44
Was gonna basically say what GrumpyRab did.  The argument I always make to materialists is:
Your 5 senses can ONLY ever be experienced by your brain.  Even if you were looking at and feeling an object that's in the physical, you'd still only be experiencing what your brain tells you.  You can NEVER experience the physical no matter what.  You can only experience your brain.  How much can you trust the brain? Well, how hard is it to fool? Take some acid, and the brain tells you different things about your reality.  Cure someone's depression, and they'll describe reality in a very different way too. 

That much is basic logic that every materialist should already understand. 

Now, since you are "in the brain", and can't ever be in the physical, would the physical exist? Would you ever be able to tell? No.  You'd have to disconnect from all your brain's signals to do that, and at that point you're definitely not in a materialist's idea of a physical.  So, even if the physical existed, throughout all of human history no person would've ever experienced it.  It's inaccessible, and therefore has no purpose and couldn't exist.

(iirc, accord to Elon Musk, Neuralink (with basic functionality) is <5 years away.  When every sense can be replaced artificially, maybe then people will start to realize this.)

Understanding reality's non-physical nature, the very question of "but how do you know OBEs aren't just hallucinations of the brain?" seems absurd and childish.  If this is still not making sense, just think about how a game works.  Does the game world actually need to exist, in and of itself? Of course not.



I didn't really need to write all that to answer your question, but it might clear up others you're likely to have.  To more directly answer your question, there IS, what I consider "definitive proof".  From the man, himself:

https://youtu.be/9dj5337UQmE?t=613 watch up to ~17:00 for your proof.
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