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1  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Abbreviations on: November 09, 2005, 00:01:46
There are many sites that list these, http://www.netlingo.com/emailsh.cfm being one example.
A search for 'email abbreviations' will turn up a few more Smiley
2  Astral Chat / Welcome to Astral Chat! / Frank's virtual classroom on: October 27, 2005, 17:59:40
Quote from: Gandalf
It would be helpful if people who keep on about 'those who want their money back' to look at the facts:

All the transactions were fully refundable through the third party, so nobody has to 'be looking for their money'. They can easily get it back themselves; most have already done so.

Doug

Just a thought.
Paypal was mentioned earlier as the route to pursue, is this the third party being mentioned? If so redress options could be limited especially if the purchase is not covered by PayPal Buyer Protection (Ebay 'established seller' option), then there is little or no redress available for a purchase deemed 'intangible'. Below is the Buyer Complaint Process outline. Note the bottom line...
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We encourage buyers to initiate communication with sellers if they have a problem with a transaction. Through open communication, many disputes can be resolved amicably. In cases where communication does not resolve a problem, you may file a claim through the Buyer Complaint Process.

Once you file a claim, PayPal will investigate the case and attempt to come to a fair resolution. If our investigation determines that you are owed money by the seller, we will make every effort to recover funds for you. We will try to complete our investigation and provide any reimbursement within 45 days from the date the Buyer Complaint Form is filed.

For further information on increasing the safety of your transactions, please review Fraud Prevention Tips for Buyers.

Buyer Complaint Process Requirements

In order for a transaction to be eligible for Buyer Complaint Process review:

    * You must have used PayPal to pay for your purchase.
    * You must not have received the item that you purchased.
    * You must file a claim within 45 days of payment.
    * Your purchase must be a tangible item. Services and intangible items, such as emailed recipes and e-books, are not covered.
3  Astral Chat / Welcome to News and Media! / Bush Sucks. on: July 19, 2005, 13:10:04
Quote from: Makaveli
I understand that people in England couldnít carry guns so the way it was before is still very different from America.  But couldnít guns still be used for home defense?  I donít know much about England there could be other factors but at least in America there is the strong correlation between more guns and less crime.  Whether or not gun control is partly responsible for the increase of crime in England it still looks like it hasnít improved Englandís crime rates.

Gun usage is on the increase here in the UK
A recent survey amongst the UK youth claims that one in 16 carry a firearm for protection when in their cars. These weapons range from fully functional firearms through BB guns to imitation firearms. The same survey indicates that one in ten carries a weapon such as a knife.
Legally UK citizens cannot carry self defence weapons including Mace etc. There was historically a fuller right of armed self defence based upon Magna Carta and our long forgotten Bill of Rights, carrying of swords etc. The modern era is largely shaped in the 1960s when a law was passed essentially transferring that role to the Police. The law I paraphrase says that 'reasonable' force only may be used to protect self, family and property in the case of genuine self defence, prosecutors will look to see if there is deemed to  have been excessive force used in which case the person may be prosecuted. This is sometimes considered too ambiguous and has been the subject of much debate recently especially following the shooting dead of a teenager said to have been trying to run out of a house that he had been in the process of robbing.
4  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Constant Shielding on: March 29, 2005, 10:18:25
Quote from: runlola
try to pay attention to what you are feeling all the time &
when you feel the need to shield, do so. Practice awareness.

Agreed, awareness and then response as needed.

My experience of people using aids for permanent defence is that they are often demanding in themselves and as mentioned also isolating plus they can get tacky on the outside if not cleaned Sad.  So being aware and charting a more managed course can pay dividends in many ways.
5  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Re: Exorcism tradition on: March 15, 2005, 11:44:00
Quote from: aasar
A few years ago, the idea of a spiritual being possessing a human being was completely rejected by western psychologist as a form of superstitious beliefs carried over from the Middle Ages. More recently, as science matured and felt secure it began to re look into the possibility of the influence of such beings on humans.

Thank you for this article, this area has some interest for us. My partner has been reviewing some prevailing thoughts in psychology along the lines of how this discipline sought recognition in scientific circles and in doing so may have closed some doors prematurely.

The improved times to heal is very interesting and having such said by established practitioners even more so.
6  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Possession on: March 06, 2005, 12:02:58
Quote from: PissedOffMystic
. Everything I thought was me was partly not, and so everything I have been built on is being rooted out, and my whole existence is collapsing around me. I'm more depressed than I was with the problem, and that's saying something. But I believe this is temporary, or at least I hope.

Good observation, I often note with people the degree of emotional exaggeration resulting from some entity presence. Initially, in the absence of this presence one can feel empty and without purpose or drive but that for me is a good sign and is also a sign of a balance in the self, that is, the emotional self is now more in balance with the intellectual self.  Initially for someone freed from entity influence it can take some getting used to while one re-explores ones thoughts, these being no longer encumbered by undue external  influence.
7  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Exorcism TV Program on: February 24, 2005, 14:56:42
Quote from: runlola
non-religious people, people that never went to church or
read any of the bible...

possessed by demons of the bible & can only be exorcised by priests?


Do you know of someone personally?

Interesting question. I would suspect that where these events might happen it becomes wrapped in the cultural setup of the experiencers. They contact their appropriate 'representative' who then further applies the respective terminology. My experience is that this stuff is often very malleable and flexes to fit the belief system.
The possession one that I experienced was in a mediumistic setting and contact healing was used to clean out.
Another area is perhaps Poltergeist which manifests it seems worldwide irrespective of culture, it would be interesting to hear from anyone whose culture does not apparently experience this phenomena.
8  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Exorcism TV Program on: February 22, 2005, 11:55:59
Quote from: runlola
if you like exorcisms you should see the movie CONSTANTINE

I just saw it, I thought it was GREAT



I hope it's in your area?


 evil

I have attended one full religious type exorcism but it lacked the spinning head and puke. A friend of ours, then a priest, now a bishop invited us along. It was strange and certainly got the neighbours attention when a fully robed priest walked around the house chanting and spraying holy water. The location was in London near to a building formally used as a mental institution and had the name Bedlam, it is now a museum. This was given some role in the cause of the problem. It was quite a strange experience and during the process some strange feelings took hold of the place eventually to be dispelled.

I have been at a situation where someone suffering attempted possession  in a trance like method. When it got sufficient control there were facial contortions and much yelling of obscenities and many threats. A healing type session pushed it out and it eventually gave up trying to use that person.
9  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Baddie Magnet on: February 22, 2005, 11:16:58
Quote from: Nita
Hello Mick
   Astral Projection is not necessarily a practice of witchcraft. Any talents we have in this life are God given and as such should not be treated as an excuse that you can not do both.
   If God or any of the other forces did not want someone to use our free will choices we would not be doing it.
 Nita

These of course are the points that I am making Smiley

Quote from: Tyciol
God wouldn't want you sinning or worshipping Satan, but it still happens, so that reasoning is totally illogical.

If you belief that AP and its ilk are sins then I guess that that analogy will work for you, my initial question was regarding 'is AP witchcraft' re. CaCoDeMoNs posting, Nita concurs with my understanding of the terminology, perhaps the word witchcraft was being used in some generic manner?

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As for a natural ability, if it were natural it wouldn't be called the supernatural, and it would probably be mentioned in the bible. The only psychic things in there come from god or demons.


This is just a term that has been derived by humanity, it could equally be called PSI, remote viewing or many other terms. 'from god or demons' some blame the aliens, others cite electric shocks but I myself will stay with the natural ability explanation for now.  

Re. god or demons, I would say I believe I have seen such abilities being exploited by entities particularly when sufficient care is not being taken.
10  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Baddie Magnet on: February 21, 2005, 17:55:06
Quote from: Tyciol
It's trying to use supernatural powers that aren't natural to you. Technology is crafted with your hands, this is using your mind to separate your soul from your body. Any astral projection or dream control you do should generally be god doing it for you or telling you to do it, not you doing it alone.

That is an interesting opinion but is it witchcraft? Most that I encounter tend to the view that these are natural abilities somewhat neglected. That is the view that I take.

Afraid that I don't follow the 'Technology is crafted with your hands,' reference. I would say that human technology is also the product of the mind but I may be missing your point here.
11  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Baddie Magnet on: February 21, 2005, 11:28:52
Quote from: Tyciol
Quote from: CaCoDeMoN
Hmmm... Maybe the God wants to show you that he doesn't want you to project? I've read in Old Testament that people should not engage in any witchcraft type practices, and Astral Projection is certainly an witchcraft practice...
Yup. Pick one: Jesus or AP, can't have both.

OK, I will bite: Why is AP certainly a witchcraft practice?
Jesus and old testament  huh

Quote from: Spero112
I jokingly think of myself as an astral exorcist. Though, how far off the mark I am, I'm not so sure! There've been nights where I've had multiple confrontations. Those really drain me, but sometimes after an easy victory I actually feel energized... I wonder if I'm occasionally leaching energy the way they do.

This could simply be due to surplus (discarded)  energy flowing into you post some activity, this is something that can be seen from a healing perspective, energy will flow into the the recipient simply because due to being depleted there is space for it to flow in.

Quote from: Spero112
Now, onto my question. Why? Why do I have so many of these confrontations? I don't consider myself to be a negative person where the whole like-attracts-like would come into play. I certainly don't go looking for trouble, it just seems to wonder right up to me.

Likes attract, others say opposites attract. Many will tie down the whole experience to usually being some sort of one on one scenario but my observations are that it is often more extended than that. There is an idea that I read recently, it is that humans as organic beings have simply stumbled into someone else's space psychically and some of us notice the machinations that have resulted.
12  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Exorcism TV Program on: February 20, 2005, 17:35:53
This is the description for it.

22:00-23:05 The Real Exorcist Documentary looking at the events that inspired the book and film of `The Exorcist' - the only documented case of a Catholic exorcism in US history.
13  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Re: Response to Mick on: February 20, 2005, 14:55:45
Ais, thanks for the detail Smiley
Quote from: Ais
I became very psychically aware: I was able to sense people's and plants' auric energies, the energies of places and flowing water. When you are opened up in this way, a direct channel is created between yourself and the lower astral plane where, as you probably know, all such negative entities belong.

The manner of kickstarting the experiences is interesting, particularly that it opened a wider view into the physical world. I go along with the idea of a lower astral for conversation purposes, there are enough terms bandied about anyway Smiley I however tend to the idea that much of what is experienced is often much closer, as you say your awareness of the physical also increased so perhaps some of its normally invisible denizens simply be came more evident Smiley
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Only physical medicine - anti-psychotic medication - could really help me. The energies I experienced were so powerful that on a number of occasions I was nearly knocked out of my body by them. Scary stuff.

I can see how the reach into yourself would become difficult and temporarily hard to manage, due to my experiences and those of others that I have met I would suggest that these experiences because of its nature (strangeness and intensity) overwhelm the mind and it becomes hard to reassert perspective, particularly because experiencers have no working definition of the boundaries of such experiences.
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There is a karmic reason why this happened. Many lifetimes ago I was an Egyptian priest in charge of training young sensitives,

I don't do Karma Smiley but have been told of past lifes and have some experiences of such but I keep those to one side as I also see too many other methods to explain why such experiences might occur.

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Rudolf Steiner did his best to warn us about this.  I think it is very unwise to do any sort of work which accelerates your psychic sensitivity, as this can open up a nasty can of worms. I was just naive when it came to doing the crystal healing course: I had no idea it would open me up in such a way.
I think using tools is the risky part, such things are easily imbued with connections and provide linkage for potentially anything  on a bad day Sad
Don't see Steiners name mentioned too often these days but I do find it interesting that there are so many diverse sources with pointers at our actual environment.

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I had my first neg attack at the age of sixteen, just after a performance of some of my music. Of course, at the time I had no idea what I was experiencing.

I think it possible and my experience is that some cases where some state is explained as physical illness are possibly the product of some external influence, in some of the cases I pick up on some grim connections with these people is evident which they are totally unaware of except for illness condition Sad Back these connections off and the person will promptly talk of feeling better/ uplifted.

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Unfortunately there is no 'off' switch, but the exercises I am doing are helping very gradually to get me back to normal sensitivity (or what's normal for me anyway).

I would perhaps add that this does seem to be our fuller environment and staying in touch with it is possibly a reasonable goal, however minimising the apparent attraction for those that burden is no bad thing Smiley The cause of the attraction being of particular interest in that it appears very diverse with no single solution.

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This is a serious answer to a serious question - hope it's clear.

Clear enough for me Smiley
14  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Examples of successful treatments for neg attacks on: February 19, 2005, 00:44:39
Quote from: Ais
I have dealt with the majority of negs in this way. The ones I can't clear need to be moved on by psychics who work in this sphere. However, my success rate is increasing as time goes by. If you are completely and consistently grounded, negs won't waste their time with you.

Success rates aside Smiley, what are your thoughts as to why you have been popular with the so called negs? This is a serious question simply to get your ideas of these things.

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The negs I experience tend to obsess my aura - meaning that I feel a disturbance in it - and/or attack my chakra points, which means that my heart rate can be affected, or my swallowing, or my adrenal glands. It helps to think of negs as an irritation rather than a threat, no matter how fearful they make you. I have found that as I grow in confidence about my ability to deal with negs, I don't find them as frightening as I used to. This robs them of their power and thus repels them. They are opportunists and will simply move on to a more vulnerable target.


Yes, thinking of them as bugs and the like puts them in perspective  cheesy
15  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Examples of successful treatments for neg attacks on: February 15, 2005, 01:28:30
Quote from: G3MM4
EDIT: I forgot to mention that I've only woken up for something to eat, and before I went to sleep this evening, I saw grey tentacles (loads of them) in front of me, with a black entity that looked like it was hanging upside down behind the tentacles. This scene took place behind closed eyelids, and it was sudden, I was not expecting to see this. I woke up with pain in my left hand, feels like my nerves are on fire. Also woke up with a headache.

Dropped by to see whats happening these days and this one caught my eye. Did you see this as a big critter or something fairly small? Have on occasion seen these but they seem to have become more observed of late. A number of people that I know have seen something similar. They also feature in the Matrix movies Smiley
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17  Astral Chat / Welcome to News and Media! / The Scole experiment group. on: October 04, 2004, 14:40:26
quote:
Originally posted by Sampson

Thanks for the reply, I didn't realise they stopped due to unseen negative influences, Iíd like to find out more about that, perhaps itís mentioned in the book?


Have not found an online reference for this as yet.
The SPR report is available to non members.
"Vol 58 Part 220 November 1999: THE SCOLE REPORT". Keen, Ellison & Fontana (1999)   £12.  
http://www.spr.ac.uk/index.php3?page=books

Some comments at:
http://www.survivalafterdeath.org/articles/keen/scole.htm
http://www.survivalafterdeath.org/articles/foy/scole.htm

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He often made an appearance in a short television series aired on sky called 'The Ghosthunters'.

The series was very watchable and had some very interesting accounts of spirit phenomena, Hauntings and poltergeist activity. I recommend anybody to watch them if they get the chance, the account given at the 'Old Bell Inn' was particularly convincing, thanks again!

Interesting series, some examples of difficult to explain as mundane causes.
18  Astral Chat / Welcome to News and Media! / The Scole experiment group. on: September 29, 2004, 13:03:48
I don't think that they have been active for a while in the sense of providing proofs. They did stop when they were informed that negative presences were attempting to use their meetings.
I did drive by the town recently for the first time and did note an amount of disruption (place called Scole Bridge) which looks to coroborate their comments.

I did know someone that had been present at one of their meetings and he talks of feeling sensations against his skin. He described it as being similar to being close to a high voltage electrical charge.

I do have the SPR report but admit to not having read it in any detail as yet Sad
19  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Negs mri's and magnetic field parasites. on: September 29, 2004, 11:40:55
quote:
Originally posted by thankful

There is a place in Pennsylvania and also in North Carolina that are doing experimental treatments with powerful magnets, about the size of ones in an MRI machine.  These powerful magnets are especially good for Cerebral Palsy, Multiple Sclerosis, Strokes, chronic pain, etc.  For more info, go to www.amti.nc.com.  It seems that the North pole of a magnet really causes oxygen to go to the area where it's applied, it also reduces inflammation.

That link did not work for me, I did find various companies but not something that I could connect to the subject here.
quote:

When you have a regular MRI, you can't take credit cards in with you, or the info on them will be wiped out.  I've also read that you can't bring a powerful magnet close to your computer of info will also be wiped out.  So if negs are electromagnetic entities, maybe magnets could erase their info or else the info that is allowing them to attach.  

Nor anything else with magnetic material. There are safety features to cause magnetic field collapse should someone be trapped by an object being pulled to the scanner. Costs a fortune in lost cooling gasses.

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I'd love it if anybody could share how to use iron to come against negs. One thing I do remember reading is that you can use an iron knife and cut along your skin at the problem area, like you are severing an attachment. I also read where somebody swung their iron golf club at something that was trying to materialize and the iron seemed to disrupt it.

This is an account of where it seems iron is being used for a paranormal defence purpose.
A few of us visited a place in southern England known locally for its play on the Jack and Jill nursury rhyme. There is a well at the top of a hill with various plaques depicting the rhyme along the path to the top. When we got to the top of the path we noted some energy lines, there were three of us dowsing these lines and noted that a line running up the hill disected another line at the top of the hill. We interpreted a disturbance at this point and we walked about looking for the edges and so on. While doing so we also noted chunks of iron at the edges of the convergence, one was a re-inforcing rod pushed into the ground with the bit exposed bent into a hook, another piece looked like an axle of some sort and was placed opposite the other piece.

A person with us went on to explain that at one time it was common for iron to be laid within the brickwork of house walls for the purpose that your text outlines. What we found maybe suggested that others had noted and were concerned to minimise the impact of the convergence of the energy lines. We plan to go back some time and see if we can detail the lines more accurately (overall direction) and also see if any iron bits are still in evidence.
20  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Negs mri's and magnetic field parasites. on: September 29, 2004, 11:14:55
quote:
Originally posted by Inguma

"Simply because religious experiences are brain based does not automatically lessen or demean their spiritual significance. Indeed, the findings of neurological substrates to religious experiences can be argued to provide evidence for their objective reality"


Yes, I too have had the thought that creating certain conditions can facilitate experiences but as to what the experience and the source is still open.
21  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Negs mri's and magnetic field parasites. on: September 24, 2004, 16:40:10
quote:
Originally posted by kalratri


Some researchers are planning to  make small scale versions of the MRI for healing therapy as they've already done for brain scans,

The use for healing sounds interesting, do you have a reference?
Pulsed electromagnets have been used for a little while to assist healing of say bone fractures.
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Sounds interestingfor obvious reasons (I don't think you need to have 4X the earth's magnetic field to destroy misaligned magnetic fields and negs unless you're dealing with some fantastically powerful poltergiest(sp?))

One magnetic field is not in principle going to destroy another but will interaction in weird and wonderful ways. Where one is significantly stronger it will to all intent and purposes dominate material within its field. As I understand it magnetic fields are the product of some other activity rather than something existing in isolation so changing a field permanently requires the source to be permanently changed.

In my own experiences some entity activity does appear to be affected by electical and related products and I think investigation in this area is an interesting idea.

I know people that report weird stuff when about fairly high power transmission equipment as a result of their work, but then Persinger would mention temporal lobe effects here.
When in the past I have been fault finding electronic equipment, I have experienced intuitive sense as to where a problem might be, going direct to check a particular waveform which is then seen to be corrupt can be difficult to explain to 'lay' people that might be about Smiley

My bottom line is that we as humans do seem able to interact with subtle physical energies as well as the apparently non localised stuff so research of the type mentioned by yourself does have an interest for me but I have also come across some shady claims so like to gather all the details that I can where possible.
22  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / The attraction of the left hand path on: September 22, 2004, 12:01:55
quote:
Originally posted by boydster
The psychology of evil and rebellion against the Source seems to the rest of us to be like an unexplainable insanity.

Suffice it to say, the Source gives them plenty of chances of see and embrace the Light before they are put out of their misery permanently.


I would not think that people that commit what others think are gross acts of evil are actually measuring themselves against some 'high' standard. They probably have their own agenda and pursue it wherever it takes them. Amazingly within these mindsets there might well be an internal code of behaviour which includes a sense of family and friends loyalty held to the highest measure whilst anyone outside is fair game. This can be seen in crime syndicates, dictatorships and many other closed groupings.
Why have the actions of some priests been protected by other priests? Also do those priests think that they are above a higher law or do they not believe in a higher law, I suppose the ability to confess such acts in exchange for forgivness might also be a part of this?
23  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Negs mri's and magnetic field parasites. on: September 22, 2004, 11:41:13
quote:
Originally posted by kalratri


--Actually, the MRI might do 2 things, 1) it might just push the neg out permanently.

Might do if it is subject to magnetic fields and/or RF fields, also if it does not like noise Smiley
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2)it's not possible that the MRI disables ALL magnetic activity in the body, if it did, it would kill you.  I'm thinking if the energy movement can be detected during meditative states than non meditative energy movements can also be detected.

It does not disable, it aligns, see the url that I provided for details.
It is chemical activity that is detected during whichever state, my point being that MRI medical Scanners do not detect magnetic fields.

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If the neg tries to integrate into your field and starts swishing stuff around, theoretically it should be detected.

If it is impacting chemical processes and those processes are being examined for, if the neg is distorting the field this may return anomalous results.
24  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Negs mri's and magnetic field parasites. on: September 21, 2004, 15:19:12
quote:
Originally posted by kalratri

whoops! Sorry, I didn't really read it.  This is better.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A40979-2003Sep20


MRI medical scanners don't so much detect magnetic fields, they are utilised as part of the process to detect chemical processes at the atomic level. The fields used for human examinations can be up to 2 tesla, 4 times that of the earths magnetic field. This would be likely to counter any local fields for the duration of the scan.
Not withstanding, I have also read from other sources that the effects of meditative states on brain activity have been viewed with MRI and other medical diagnostic equipment and it points to some interesting explorations ahead.

More intro at http://www.howstuffworks.com/mri.htm
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Negs are extremely magnetic, if you put a magnet near a limb that is severely overtaken by a neg in a child, their fingers/hand literally get drawn like iron fillings to the magnet.


Alternately placing iron fillings near the person on say a sheet of card would show localised fields if present and at the strength that you suggest. That would make for some interesting video Smiley UFO researchers often obtain magnetic field detectors for their research which may be of use, available from all good UFO stores on the internet Smiley
25  Psychic and Paranormal / Welcome to Psychic and Paranormal! / Expel Negs on: August 31, 2004, 10:52:21
quote:
Originally posted by runlola


Iron is believed to be one of the top charms against evil spirits, demons, sorcerers, and witches. European folklore says witches cannot pass over cold iron, and that burying an iron knife under your doorstep will ensure no witches will ever enter your house.


That reminds me Smiley Last weekend we spent some time in Wiltshire, southern England. It is an area renown for wibble activities and is famous for its crop circle art. We visited a place known locally for its play on the Jack and Jill nursury rhyme. There is a well at the top of a hill with various plaques depicting the rhyme along the path to the top. When we got to the top of the path we noted some energy lines, there were three of us dowsing these lines and noted that a line running up the hill disected another line at the top of the hill. e interpreted a disturbance at this point and we walked about looking for the edges and so on. We also noted chunks of iron at the edges of the convergence, one was a re-inforcing rod pushed into the ground with the bit exposed bent into a hook, another piece looked like an axle of some sort and was placed opposite the other piece.
A person with us went on to explain that at one time it was common for iron to be laid within the brickwork of house walls for the purpose that your text outlines. What we found suggested that others had noted and were concerned to minimise the impact of the convergence of the energy lines. We plan to go back some time and see if we can detail the lines more accurately and also see if any iron bits are still in evidence.
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