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1  Astral Projection & Out of Body Experiences / Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics! / The triangle method on: May 08, 2004, 12:34:41
just wanted to say thank you.. when i first saw this method i kinda passed over it as it was different than all other methods i have been taught.

however tonight, in my daily practice i decided to give it a wirl.. and damn!!!

i almost immediatly got the "shifting" slightly vertigo sensations.. usually it takes me at least a half hour of medition to get these sensations.. this was right after i finished doing my relaxation exercises.. maybe a minute after i first started being aware of the "sss" sound..

i started to feel my etheric body expanding.. almost pushing at some sort of boundary... i started to feel my consciousness outside my body.. but i started experiencing all these panic attack sensations.. my body tensing up, short of breath, etc..

i started consciouslly relaxing and i guess after i shifted my thoughts to my body rather than the triangle the sensations started to fade.. i kinda repeated the whole process again but once more felt the panic attack sensations so i decided to call it a night and try again tomorrow. (hopefully i'll get used to these sensations and be able to move beyond them)

the only time i've evered experienced ap is when it's happened spontaneously.. i've been practing daily for months now trying to be able to do it at will...

anyway.. thanks for the technique. its been the most effective one i've used so far.
2  Magic / Welcome to Magic! / Enochian Magic on: April 05, 2004, 12:01:49
actually i found it seemed complex until you actually break down the tablets and calls and realize that with some basic knowledge of both astrology and the classical elements its actually really simple. The tablets show a logical heirarchy of angels on each tablet, the calls correspond to each tablet and subangle in a rational matter, and scrying the aethyrs theoritcally only takes one call (the 30th).

While not for the rank beginer i think most people tend to think Enochian is much more complex than it is. I recomend "The Enochian World of Aleister Crowley" by Lon Milo DuQuette. If you follow the instructions and create your own tablets, coloring them in by hand you should have a good understanding of the tablets by the time you finish them. After that, its pretty easy to start with the system.
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