Hi
I'm probably being really dense here, but:
How long do I need to continue work on the secondary centres in the limbs before it is OK to move on to bigger stuff? Basically how can I tell I'm ready to go to the next stage of development?
I went quite quickly through the online book to the leg development chapter and am getting quite good results, I think, but I wonder how much work is required to clear any blockages and how I can tell when this has been acheived.
Any insights would be appreciated[]
Secretseeress

Hi, JAW
this is a very interesting question. I have restless legs too, I never knew it was a medical condition until now. It was much worse when I was younger, I have since made lifestyle changes that have alleviated the condition. I think that there is definately a connection with the condition of your energy body, but whether it indicates a blockage or excessive energy flow I am not sure. Thanks for the link!
Secretseeress

LOL
Thats soo funny
I made it to level 8 and I wasn't even trying to be bad!
HEhehehhe
Love and Light,
Secretseeress
[}:)]

I advise you find a good translation of the Tibetan Book of the Dead.

Love and Light,
Secretseeress

Alcohol makes you stupid.

Thats all.

Love and Light,
Secretseeress.

Hiya Fenris, and Riso no Kairu
thanks for your answers. I understand from this that they are basically the same thing, but that they may exist on slightly different energetic frequencies, yes?
So, for example, I once decided it would be cool to have a wolf following me around and I spent quite a lot of time imagining it was there and hearing its claws clicking on the pavement etc. After a couple of days I started to get freaked out 'cos there was something hanging around guarding the back door of my flat ( this was before I figured out that I really did have to be careful what I was doing...) When I asked my vastly more experienced friend what it was he probed it but couldn't tell it apart from my own energy, so we quickly figured out I'd made what I would call a thought form and I knew what to do about it.
So I guess this would have been an energy construct on a level 'below' the astral.
Whereas on the other hand if I was to project to the astral and make an imaginary wolf there it would have more reality and could properly be classed as a thought-form.
On the other hand ....maybe its the otherway round....oh blast, thats that complex discussion you mentioned...[]

I don't mind anyone asking...I've always been interested in magic ( not the illusionist kind they show on telly) and have studied just about everything I could get my hands on. I haven't found any particular group I've wanted to join though, its like each one had a few pieces of something much bigger and I want all of them, not just a few. I follow my intuition which serves me very well. OK, actually I've had a bit of help from a few special people....nothing formal though. I read the Treatise on OOBE nearly 10 years ago, but wasn't able to work with it at the time. Now I'm back with Bruce's work. Its direct, effective, and I don't have to learn any more names for the same things I've always worked with. Which means I can get rid of some of the clutter in here <clunk><clatter><muffled echoes>.

Well, anyway, if we're going to agree that energy constructs and thought forms are more or less the same thing, then they've been around at least since Mm Blavatsky since she probably got the idea from somewhere further east. They can be made for any purpose if you have the skill.....and its always best to learn to walk before you try running.[]

Gosh, that was a lot of words for me!

Love and Light,
Secretseeress

HI
Maybe when you die in a dream you are remembering how you died in a past life?
Or maybe its a presentient look at how you'll die this time....though I don't think many people will have such violent deaths!
I think the wierdest way I ever died in a dream was after I ran into a kinda futuristic UN meeting to deliver a vital message but was blasted by some kind of lightning gun. OUCH. My right side tingled and ached for hours after.
Do you always wake up when you die or do you sometimes hang around being a ghost?
Love and Light,
Secretseeress

Hi, Terrence,
I too have found the same thing that my eyes move with my awareness movements. I have also found that I breath in time with the brushing movement, and that it is very difficult to stop doing this! I am also short-sighted and have a lot of tension in my eyes which is something that bothers me and I wish to correct in time. I think that my awareness is still too much in my eyes and vision and I must concentrate much more on the physical sensation of awareness hands, without worrying about any unintentional movements. More practice required, I think.
Love and Light,
Secretseeress

Hi, Fat-Turkey,
can you tell me what you mean by energy constructs? Are these the same as thought-forms?
Love and Light
Secretseeress

Hi,
I think you are referring to the Harmonic Grid which has been most extensively researched by Bruce Cathie. He has a website but I'm sorry I can't find it at the moment. He has written several books on the subject which should be fairly easy to find including 'The Harmonic Conquest of Space'.
Love and Light,
Secretseeress

LOL......it'd take too long!
I always have clearest visions while tripping - full on astral sight and sound too. The most vivid one was seeing an enormous white horse burst out of the wall in front of me, like it was swimming in all this blue astral stuff - it swam right over me, its hoof was about 12 inches above my face! Wow!
Love and Light,
Secretseeress

Gee, and I thought Kate Adie was a CIA spy.....

Hi, Squeek,
You may be unable to hear your replies as they are much quieter than your minds internal chatter. You may find it useful to try to still your mind for a few minutes to allow you to hear the more subtle subconscious influences. There are many different techniques to do this but basically just to be aware of what you are saying to yourself and try to pause for a moment when you come to the end of each thought, making the pause a little longer each time.
Hope this helps,
Love and Light,
Secretseeress.

I am using B. K. S. Iyenger's 'Light On Yoga' and cannot recommend it enough. The course in the appendix is quite strenuous but excellent and the benefits are felt very quickly. I have also found it quite comfortable to use N.E.W. along side daily yoga sessions.

Love and Light,
Secretseeress

Hi,
I have also noticed differing results from day to day. My initial thoughts are that things such as time of day, weather, emotional state and state of relaxation would be fairly dominant factors, also where you practice and any changes in ambient conditions there.
For most kinds of meditation and self development it is usually recommended that you practice at the same time every day in a quiet, clean and undisturbed place - something I find very difficult!, but perhaps others would be able to investigate more scientifically.
Love and Light,
Secretseeress

Thankyou, James, and a big Hello back []

Hi, Nick,
I've only just started using NEW but I think I can help with a couple of your questions.
I understood that you are not supposed to visualise anything at all and to focus your attention away from your visual faculty as much as possible. Instead you use your sense of touch to become aware of different parts of your body. If you have difficulty feeling your sense of touch try rubbing a piece of smooth satin or similar across the back of one hand. With your eyes closed you can bring your full attention to the sensation without producing any mental image. This focus of attention is your awareness point.

You can focus your attention on any part of your body, say the inside of your eblow joint, and feel with the skin on that part of the body. ( Your skin is your largest and most sensetive sense organ ). Your focus can be as large or small as you want....try being aware of a patch about 2cm square. Next become aware of the 2cm aquare patch just next to that, at the top of your forearm. Then the patch next to that...and so on until you have felt all the way down to your wrist. You will have moved your awareness point without having visualised anything at all.

If you are still having difficulty not visualising, try blindfolding yourself and moving around your home by touch alone. ( No, seriously!)

Asking how something feels to your minds eye is getting into the realms of synesthesia and that really does complicate things, so I think its best to stick to one sense at a time to begin with.

As for sponging...well thats a bit of a mystery to me too but I guess its kinda the opposite of the 'tearing' motion described in NEW.

I'm afraid I haven't got to the bouncing bit yet so I'll have to pass that one on to someone else[]

I hope that helps, and I hope to hear how you get on.

Love and Light,
Secretseeress

No need to smoke wild lettuce as the opiates it contains are water soluble, simply make a tea with it and drink half and hour before going to sleep..... the more you take the stronger the effect, reliable and safe.
Lots of others you can take too but I like this one.
Love and Light,
Secretseeress

Hi, everyone,
obviously I'm new here, and I have to say I was initially a little put off by the amount of post on this forum about a fantasy cartoon. When I was 13 I was heavily into fantasy novels with a lot of 'magickal' or energy work described in them. While I was fascinated by the ideas described I was also well aware that the authors were blending myths, rumours and hearsay with their story telling abilities. The same is true for cartoons and other TV series; I think Spielberg's Taken is also a good example of this.
While it is admirable that this kind of childrens entertainment introduces these ideas to you young ones, I would wish you all to remember a few things:
firstly, that these are FANTASIES
secondly, that most of us grew out of it years ago and it won't be long before you do too
thirdly, PLEASE try to avoid using words from other cultures as it leads to misunderstandings and into arguments about what words mean instead of what they refer to
fourthly, this is a forum about energy development not how true to life a particular tv series is or how relevant its techniques are.
Please can you keep discussions about DBZ on auraseer's forum ( thanks for that, auraseer) and leave this forum open for more adult discussion.
Frankly, all this stuff about Ki and DBZ just isn't as relevant as some people think it is and if you think its going to help when you get out into the big bad world then you're in for a big shock.
Looking forward []
Love and Light,
Secretseeress

Hi, Silva & all,
I have had flying dreams all my life and often have similar problems of being unable to get off the ground or above about head height. I seem to have two or three ways of flying/levitating the best is a little like sitting on a float in the swimming pool, so you can do that to get an idea of how it feels. I create a large about 1m diameter ball of energy below the base of my spine and basically sit on top, balancing with my arms stretched out. I can then direct the ball of enegy to float in whatever direction I want. Pretty cool when I remember to do it!
Love and Light,
Secretseeress

This thread is an excellent illustration of why Robert Bruce only uses english words to describe his techniques.
Secretseeress

Thanks for your help, I've been trying to do everything from toes to hips all in one sitting and wondering why I kept dozing off!
Secretseeress