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Quote from: ForrestDean on March 20, 2013, 17:17:38I ask this with the greatest compassion. What would YOU like to do? This is not a rhetorical question.
Quote from: Bedeekin on March 20, 2013, 19:35:05Government of wannabes?What else is there to be but in power... I would call them... bees.
Quote from: Bedeekin on March 20, 2013, 19:42:05I shall give it a watch. What do you want to hear?I suspect I will be trashing it as paranoia.. unless it mentions North Korea and Syria.
Quote from: enlightnd on March 20, 2013, 19:25:14Theres nothing I can DO.. So it doesn't really matter.
Quote from: enlightnd on March 20, 2013, 19:25:14I would like to live my life and not have to go through a War, And i would like to live in a world where we are all equal and not controlled and have no say.
Quote from: enlightnd on March 20, 2013, 09:00:36What can WE do tho ?
Quote from: Bedeekin on March 21, 2013, 15:55:49Whenever 9/11 is concerned... I can't help but think of what the families and loved ones of those that died would say if you confronted them with a conspiracy.
Quote from: Bedeekin on March 21, 2013, 16:01:53If anything 9/11 was an opportunistic ticket to war for the US... not an orchestrated plot. The thousands of people who would have to have been involved and keeping quiet is just phenomenal. The explosion or demolition squibs said to be used to collapse the building is just a plain STUPID idea and whoever perpetrated the idea has no clue about pyrotechnics.. I do... I have a pyro licence.
Quote from: Stillwater on March 21, 2013, 22:49:31I was never much interested in 9-11 conspiracy stuff because to me it wasn't the important side of the equation.The super-powers are playing their endgame in the middle east right now, that is obvious to anyone looking on.The power which the US has controlled since the 70's is, despite not much press to the fact, is the petro-dollar reserve system. The US pledged military "support" to the much of the mideast, in exchange for constant availability of oil, and and the promise that oil will be exchanged for dollars.This agreement doesn't sound like much, but it is everything. It forces other countries to stockpile dollars if they want to buy oil, these dollars are like any dollars exchanged in the US. We have this thing called the Federal reserve, which can freely print more money as government bonds are sold in exchange. Everytime the Fed prints money, all the dollars that exist depreciate in value, so all the countries which are holding these dollars are having their value taxed away in effect by the Fed. The petrodollar system is the way the US taxes most of the world, and maintains a large amount of its potency on the world stage.Since the petro-dollar system clearly has two components, there are two ways to challenge the system- oil availability and currency.So the US has led a predicatable campaign around the middle east building hundreds of bases and declaring countries a threat in the order it intends to move in. 9-11, whether real or manufactured (it doesn't matter really) has been used literally everytime in some half-baked justification for why this or that country needs to be moved on. Afghanistan is where they are! Go there! Saddam is a "terrorist" in the middle eastern stage, aided our "attackers", and is stockpiling weapons of terrorism too! Syria harbors terrorists! Pakistan allowed the big man to live there! It happened a decade ago, and it still justifies literally anything they want to do in the mideast, if you draw enough dots on the page.And trust me, Russia and China are fully wise to this. They have just drawn the line in the sand with Iran and Syria, and said no further. And thus continues the campaign to paint these countries as necessary future invasions, to get the force of Nato behind these campaigns too, althuogh it has clearly proven much harder.Russia and China have been playing the other side of the equation, waging a silent currency war. They are stockpiling gold and influence in an attempt to create a powerful enough monetary alliance that the middle east has enough confidence to trade oil in Renminbi, or whatever the new currency will be called.See, no illuminati needed to explain it all! Just follow the money and resources and the game makes sense. Maybe 9-11 was staged and maybe it wasn't, but it was only a rhetorical utterance needed to justify the real intenions, and if not it, than something else would have been invoked. Propaganda knows no want of source material.Don't get me wrong, I am not saying they don't exist. I am certain there are secret societies, and they wield some power. How much power do they have? Anyone's guess or thesis. But I can explain what is going on for the most part in the world without needing to bring them into it. The middle east makes perfect sense to me. The buildup and militarization of internal US and EU agencies is also obvious- a huge financial storm is brewing, and it might get rough on the homefront. Do they have more planned than that? Maybe... but if they do, what is the next move? What do you want people to do with this information? Why spread fear if not to empower?
Quote from: enlightnd on March 20, 2013, 23:47:54OK, I can now give a proper view as i had only watched the first half hour when i posted this, So i watched a good hour off it then got EXTREMELY bored and scanned threw it and watched a few sections, So i came to the conclusion that America is the main cause to all the fighting an killing going on in Syria and Afghanistan and all those other countries that are at war with each other, And that even if american troops are not there themselves doing the killing they have trained troops from other countries to go in and do there dirty work, Obama wants these countries to continue to fight and kill each other to get rid off all there religions, He fuels it.He wants less people on earth so he can control us all much easier. He wants WW3 to kill off 90% of americans apparently... And its so true! Ask yourself why are there american troops in these other countries killing innocent people ? Bombing them etc, Why are they even there in the first place.. This isn't americas war, Its between these other countries so let them sort it out themselves... You don't see russian troops over here in our countries killing people saying 'oh we are helping to keep the peace' They are not helping at all! But that is there plan in the end anyway.And like the one bloke says he went around to all these countries and asked people why are they fighting and what do they want? And they all said the same thing, "we just want the killing to stop" we want the people in the black hoods to stop shooting innocent people, And they are being sent in to do so by american troops. I can see WW3 happening, Obama will send a few big bombs in and it will be on like donkey kong.