Aliens and AP

[theAbsolute]

First, I don't know if aliens really exists. And by aliens I mean race on other planet, not different entities.

But if we say they do, what do you think if they are projecting? And what can be scary, what if they are projected here right now?

[CFTraveler]

If they're projecting right now, they're as nonphysical as we are.  So, there's nothing to fear.  Can they be scary?  Probably as scary as anything Hollywood has dreamed up.  So don't worry.

[theAbsolute]

Why would we be nonphysical?

And yeah, it would be scary if someone is spying to us right now, don't you think

[desert-rat]

Non physical is the out of body state , its only scary if you want it that way .  On being spied on there all kind of astral beings out there , ghosts , pervy. ghosts , ect.  In one of Robert Monroe's books he wrote of meeting up with some aliens while out of body . They wanted to do some kind on med. exp. on him so he split .
A post by me on another forum on ghosts watching , and the wiki page on Robert Monroe , if any one hear does not know who he was.
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=58399
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Monroe
p.s. The o.p. of this thread might want to read some of Erin's blogs on a.p. That might answer a few of his/her questions . 
http://www.erinpavlina.com

[theAbsolute]

You just misunderstood the thread.

I know it's not scary to project. But if one projected is observing you, than that should be scary.

You mentioned yourself about hat med. experiment. How than that isn't scary?

And I don't mean "ghosts", I mean aliens.

[theAbsolute]

You just misunderstood the thread.

I know it's not scary to project. But if one projected is observing you, than that should be scary.

You mentioned yourself about hat med. experiment. How than that isn't scary?

And I don't mean "ghosts", I mean aliens.

Also, to be clear. I am into AP for several years know, you don't need to explain me who Monroe is

[Volgerle]

But if we say they do, what do you think if they are projecting? And what can be scary, what if they are projected here right now?

I think they are not projecting in that sense. Many ETs are masters of several planes, dimensions etc. at once. That means they can change their vibratory rates (of their bodies, their crafts, etc.) how they want to. E.g. they can make it denser so that they get (into the) physical at will (and thus appear to us when we're in waking state). They can make it higher and less dense so that they operate on etheric or astral (and thus meeting us in astral state) or whatever level. For them reality is not a 'physical only' thing, the physical is just one state of being for a soul, they can switch from reality to reality and between states of being at will.

[theAbsolute]

Tesla said something like: "I will make a machine, I will travel to space, and you won't see it, you won't know I am flying with it. It will be with my mind".
Something like that..

So I thought, we are expecting one day aliens to visit us with some ultra modern tech and perfect space shuttles..but instead, they could already be here, projected.

[Volgerle]

So I thought, we are expecting one day aliens to visit us with some ultra modern tech and perfect space shuttles..but instead, they could already be here, projected.

Yes. That is the common fallacy of traditional Ufologists, they still think it's all about nuts-n-bolts-spaceships only. Aliens supposedly were here already before mankind (seeding?), when mankind evolved or was created, are here now all the time and will still be here when we're gone again. And there's a metaphysical basis to it.

Just as an example, listen to this last Skeptiko interview for 2013, with a hypnotherapist on abductions, if you like:

http://www.skeptiko.com/233-mary-rodwell-extrodinary-human-experieences-matter/
here's the first from her:
http://www.skeptiko.com/228-mary-rodwell-advocates-for-alien-contactees/

[Lionheart]

Yes. That is the common fallacy of traditional Ufologists, they still think it's all about nuts-n-bolts-spaceships only. Aliens supposedly were here already before mankind (seeding?), when mankind evolved or was created, are here now all the time and will still be here when we're gone again. And there's a metaphysical basis to it.

I believe it's "all of the above". They do come through Portals in their "nuts and bolts" spaceships. But they also can just enter our Reality, as we can theirs, through the power of intent (dimensional shifts).

Santa Claus isn't the only one watching over you, lol! 

[desert-rat]

On the aliens .  My def. of a space alien is a bio. being that needs a space ship .  If there in astral , or an an energy body , then I guess you could think of them as an alien , if there not from the earth . 

[MusicSoulFae]

not sure if this goes here - but i just remembered a uncomfy AP experience in last few months, & need guidance, insight on what it might have been....

Anyway in dream i was walking along in the snow, & as i walked under a power line, i felt myself pulled up. not only in dream, but physically in bed. I yelled no, stop, & did what i could to hold onto myself. It took a bt to wake self up. but when i did, i saw this in front of me: some weird light thing:

but more like this...in video below...It was white & moving..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Sd5c4o9UM@39 sec

As i pulled away from that, i started to see weird alien symbols scrolling along my ceiling, like a feed i was watching. I bolted out of bed, & could not settle to sleep for a while. When i did get back to sleep, i dreamt that beside my bed on my right were 2 lamps, one red by my feet, & a white one near top of bed. The lines were crossed, & the white one was shorting out. It was probably the last time i slept in room without medication. This was jan of this year.

Any ideas?

[phaseshiftR1111]

Music- I had a clairvoyant image like that lately. Not exactly but it reminded me of it.