Challenge to the Astral Projectors

jc84corvette · August 04, 2003, 16:00:01

I want Osama bin Laden and Saddam Dead! They are a threat to America and her allies! We must take out the regime, witch already happend and NEVER ALOW IT TO COME BACK!

For those of you that think this conflict in Iraq is not just.

Do you want to wake up tommarrow morning? Do you want your kids to wake up in the next morning and have a normal day at school? Or would you rather have you and your children dead because of a terrorist hand!?
Or would you like your children to wake up and they have to take 5 diffrent pills and look in the mirror and see a face that has boils all over the place!?
What I am saying is if you do not be aggressive and do not take down regimes with ties to terrorism and/or have weapons of mass destruction then sooner or later another 9/11 will happen but it will not just be in New York City, The Pentagon, and a field in Penn; but it will be NATION WIDE and no one lives or everyone has massive defects because of chemicals.

beavis · August 04, 2003, 16:05:25

You are right. Terrorists are evil. That is why I give a big THANK YOU to Osama Bin Ladin for ATTACKING A TERRORIST COUNTRY and DISABLING THEIR SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT in an attempt to PREVENT FUTURE TERRORISM.

jc84corvette · August 04, 2003, 16:07:52

Freedom is not dead! If it was, then all of those brave and couragus service men that died in Afghanistan, Iraq, and in Kuiwat all died in vain?

I bonking do not think so. America is free, and will remain that way. If you think diffrently, then do so but do not expect to get ANY sympthany from me when another 9/11 happens but it is more deadly. I respect your thoughts and your words. For in our Constitution we have a right to say what we want. I respect that and that document. But RESPECT THE SERVICE MEN THAT ARE MAKING THAT DOCUMENT LIVE SO YOU CAN SPEEK FREELY WITH OUT BEING PUBLICY EXECUTED LIKE SADDAM DID.

jc84corvette · August 04, 2003, 16:10:05

quote:
Originally posted by beavis

You are right. Terrorists are evil. That is why I give a big THANK YOU to Osama Bin Ladin for ATTACKING A TERRORIST COUNTRY and DISABLING THEIR SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT in an attempt to PREVENT FUTURE TERRORISM.

So its terrorist vs. terrorist? I get the name of the game! [

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beavis · August 04, 2003, 16:11:06

Freedom is dead. The "patriot act" (which is very unpatriotic!) allows anybody SUSPECTED of being a terrorist to be IMMEDIATLY KILLED WITHOUT A TRIAL. I suspect bush is a terrorist. Please do your job cops!

Illegally copying computer software is terrorism. I think it says that in the patriot act. Watch your back if anybody SUSPECTS you might do that. That makes it legal to kill all college students.

jc84corvette · August 04, 2003, 16:16:26

What trial!? Do you honestly think that is possible? We ALWAYS TRY TO DIPLOMATICLY SOLV THINGS FIRST.IF YOU DO NOT THINK THE SAME, THEN TUFF LUCK FOR YOU, NOT MY LOSS! The only times we do not do dimplomatic talks is when we are attacked and we respond with our military force.

FREEDOM IS ALIVE!

Greytraveller · August 04, 2003, 16:16:57

beavis
you ARE an IDIOT. The US attacked Afghanistan AFTER September 11, 2001. A fact which I am sure that you Are perfectly AWARE.
You are a sick individual. I should not even dignify your posts with a reply. But you have this coming!

First off. Osama bin Laden is not an Afghan. He is a Saudi.
Al-Qaeda is not a government. It is a terror organization that was condemned by every government except for the Afghan Taliban and Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
So you should get your facts straight before you go mouthing off about situations that you know NOTHING ABOUT.

Second. bin Laden and al-Qaeda attacked on Sept 11, 2001 because of American troops in Saudi Arabia and other mideast countries. There were no Americans in Afghanistan on 9/11/2001. NONE ZERO.

Third al-Qaeda was responsible for several attacks against Americans before 9/11/2001. The bombings of US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the attack on the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia that killed 19 US Servicemen and the attck on the USS Cole in Aden, Yemen that killed 18 US Sailors were all carried out by al-Qaeda.

Fourth. You just post opinions without supporting evidence. Of course there is NO SUPPORTING EVIDENCE FOR YOUR OPINION.

So just give it a rest. Your comments are WAY OFF TOPIC and have no place in this forum.
I find your opinions VERY OFFENSIVE.
If you continue with your assinine 'al-Qaeda was justtified' posts then I will ask the moderators to ban you from this sight!

jc84corvette · August 04, 2003, 16:25:14

Greytraveller right on brother! You are correct! I BACK YOU!

IF YOU THINK FREEDOM IS DEAD OR ANY OF THAT UNPATRIOT THINKING THEN I LIKE TO SEE YOUR SORRY butt OUT OF AMERICA AND INTO NORTH KOREA. AND WE WILL NOT ACCEPT YOU BACK IN BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT TAKE THE OPPRESIVE GOVERNMENT![

!]YOU WILL THINK FREEDOM IS A GOD-SENT WHEN YOU ARE IN A OPPRESIVE GOVERNMENT! [

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YOU CAN OBE TO HELL AND DONT COME BACK![}:)]

beavis · August 04, 2003, 16:27:50

greytraveller:

Please FORGIVE ME for not knowing every little detail before I have an OPINION. Am I right that USA (tried to) take some countries' nukes and left them defenseless (as no country should be)?

"I find your opinions VERY OFFENSIVE. If you continue with your assinine 'al-Qaeda was justtified' posts then I will ask the moderators to ban you from this sight!"

Then you will have to ask them to ban me. I will not be silenced. You have just proven my point that freedom is dead. I cant even speak my opinion in a thread that you chose to come back to without being censored, and you are not the moderator.

jc84corvette:

"IF YOU THINK FREEDOM IS DEAD OR ANY OF THAT UNPATRIOT THINKING"

How is it unpatriotic to say freedom is dead? I dont want it to be dead, but it is, and it continues to get worse.

"THEN I LIKE TO SEE YOUR SORRY butt OUT OF AMERICA AND INTO NORTH KOREA."

I didnt say korea or anywhere else had freedom. My idea of freedom is absolute and not relative to anybody elses level of freedom.

"YOU CAN OBE TO HELL AND DONT COME BACK!"

Thank you very much.

no_leaf_clover · August 04, 2003, 16:28:00

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I meant they were justified because they were acting in SELF DEFENSE. If USA was attacked first by a country with 1000 times more nukes than USA, I doubt you and most other people would have a problem with attacking them.

Wtf? o.O.. Self-defense is when you defend yourself against someone who is attacking you. 1) Those people working at the twin towers weren't doing excrement to Al-Queda. 2) We were as much in conflict with Al-Queda then as we ever were before those attacks. In case you didn't know, Beavis, the Al-Queda network is a group of brainwashed/incredibly stupid terrorists that like to kill innocent people no matter if they're provoked or not. We don't simply go around provoking random groups anyway. Maybe they once had an almost reasonable cause, like to fight against a local enemy country or something, but if there ever was such a cause, they've lost it completely, but they don't seem to mind as long as they have their brainless following. None of the things they do are justifiable except eating and taking poos.

Your comments speak for themselves.. You're either trying to get some attention or else have some issues with your respect for human life.

jc84corvette · August 04, 2003, 16:28:39

I appoligize if I offended anyone. This is just my rational and I back up this Country and I will with my life when I enlist.

This was a spiritual discussion but it broke out to political discussion, this should be locked.

Adrian · August 04, 2003, 16:30:00

Greetings everyone,

I am moving this topic to Astral Chat with the request that people do not get too overheated about this and resort to unacceptable language.

I realise this is a contentious topic, and one which has every right to be debated, but please remember the standards of these forums which I assure everyone most certainly will be maintained.

With best regards,

Adrian.

jc84corvette · August 04, 2003, 16:33:46

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Originally posted by no_leaf_clover

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I meant they were justified because they were acting in SELF DEFENSE. If USA was attacked first by a country with 1000 times more nukes than USA, I doubt you and most other people would have a problem with attacking them.

Wtf? o.O.. Self-defense is when you defend yourself against someone who is attacking you. 1) Those people working at the twin towers weren't doing excrement to Al-Queda. 2) We were as much in conflict with Al-Queda then as we ever were before those attacks. In case you didn't know, Beavis, the Al-Queda network is a group of brainwashed/incredibly stupid terrorists that like to kill innocent people no matter if they're provoked or not. We don't simply go around provoking random groups anyway. Maybe they once had an almost reasonable cause, like to fight against a local enemy country or something, but if there ever was such a cause, they've lost it completely, but they don't seem to mind as long as they have their brainless following. None of the things they do are justifiable except eating and taking poos.

Your comments speak for themselves.. You're either trying to get some attention or else have some issues with your respect for human life.

Nicley said, I back you up also!

That shitfull terrorist network is NOW PLANING ON TAKING CONTROLL OVER PLANES AND YOU KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. AND YOU BEVIS HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY THAT AMERICA IS TERRORIST!!?? SORRY YOU ARE WRONG! ATLEAST WE DO NOT FLY PLANES INTO INNOCENT BUILDINGS!

jc84corvette · August 04, 2003, 16:35:53

quote:
Originally posted by Adrian

Greetings everyone,

I am moving this topic to Astral Chat with the request that people do not get too overheated about this and resort to unacceptable language.

I realise this is a contentious topic, and one which has every right to be debated, but please remember the standards of these forums which I assure everyone most certainly will be maintained.

With best regards,

Adrian.

Adrian, Rocger that!

LogoRat · August 04, 2003, 16:37:49

Why it cant be done is because its all an illusion.
Osama, Saddam etc is part of the same gang as Bill Clinton, George Bush and all the other dudes.. aswell CIA, FBI etc.
Why it doesnt work is because the truth is not what you hear from the media... its a total different Thruth.
They are all part of the same illusion... to make people accept The New World Order.

goingslow · August 04, 2003, 16:39:22

I guess becoming an intelligent person isnt important. I guess thats not part of learning all there is on earth.

I wont turn this into a who's worse argument. That isnt the point to me. What I dont get is this. You're against freedom being taken away beavis. You're against terrorism as you stated when you said something to the effect of FREEDOM IS DEAD PLEASE STOP THE TERRORISM THAT IS THE US.

So what I dont get is if you're so against terrorism why are you defending a terrorist country? Why not say they're both bad? Is Osama less of a terrorist. Are you impressed with his declaration and dedication to freedom? Maybe his stance on individual rights? Its biting off your nose to spite your face. Its hating america so much you want to support anything that will destroy it. Dont disguise it as anything else.

Saying which side is worse only makes it seem like beavis has a valid argument. But it is full of contraditions.

I dont think you're very intelligent at all beavis. I think it should be clear to you if freedom is something you value the last person you'd be defending is Osama.

Do you live here? Aren't you against U.S. policy.. what your'e saying is by living here each of us deserves whatever consequences comes of our countries actions. Do you have any loved ones? Maybe that's the problems right now. Are your kids responsible for what bush does.

I fear this will be lost on you because as much as this forum is against name calling. And admit it I haven't done it in a while. You are a real idiot. the fact you think y ou've learned everything there is to learn on this earth kinda shows you have no introspection. And you're not intelligent to realize how much you dont know.

Nay · August 04, 2003, 16:39:35

Or ya'll could go to the chat room and have it out!..ooooo..can I come and watch?..hehehe
Nay.

beavis · August 04, 2003, 16:41:05

Thats one of the smartest things I've read in this thread Logorat.

goingslow:

I respect human life and dont want anybody to die. I see 2 evil forces fighting and refuse to take the side of the one I live in. They are BOTH evil.

"Do you live here? Aren't you against U.S. policy.. what your'e saying is by living here each of us deserves whatever consequences comes of our countries actions."

The average usa citizen does NOT deserve to die (some in our government do), but the USA as a country deserved what it got. I am sorry individuals had to suffer so the country could get its punishment.

"I fear this will be lost on you because as much as this forum is against name calling. And admit it I haven't done it in a while. You are a real idiot."

I dont think I've called any names in this thread yet, despite all the names I've been called.

"the fact you think y ou've learned everything there is to learn on this earth kinda shows you have no introspection. And you're not intelligent to realize how much you dont know."

I wish I had never wrote that. It is MISINTERPRETED too much. I meant I learned ALMOST everything I needed to learn.

goingslow · August 04, 2003, 16:46:42

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Originally posted by beavis

Thats one of the smartest things I've read in this thread Logorat.

I respect human life and dont want anybody to die. I see 2 evil forces fighting and refuse to take the side of the one I live in. They are BOTH evil.

Somehow the conspiracies that everything is an illusion and everyone's in on it together dont do it for me. Its sort of just a wide explanation to do away with the complexities that are really a pain to deal with.

You completely contradicted your first statements with your last but thats OKAY. Stick to your last dont take sides then. You really should write your convictions down so you dont forget them.

beavis · August 04, 2003, 16:50:38

I should not have EXAGGERATED my support for Bin Ladin, but it just pisses me off that I'm not allowed to say he had any reason at all to do what he did.

goingslow · August 04, 2003, 16:54:33

quote:
Originally posted by beavis

Thats one of the smartest things I've read in this thread Logorat.

"I fear this will be lost on you because as much as this forum is against name calling. And admit it I haven't done it in a while. You are a real idiot."

I dont think I've called any names in this thread yet, despite all the names I've been called.

Dont play innocent.. i've been on the side youre taking too. When you phrase things in a way you know will really offend people (you knew it would.. were all old enough to know when we're saying "you got what was coming to you") its a lot easier to sit back and watch the anger without calling names.

Its a lot easier dealing with that type of thing when you are the one to offend. Its easier not to get mad enough to call names.. but it wasn't necessary in the first place and you do it a lot.

Sitting back and replying in a smug calm manner after the fact really doesnt say as much as you'd hope it would.

goingslow · August 04, 2003, 16:58:28

It really isnt possible to find him I think. How would you put the description anyway? "its surrounded by a lot of dirt.. there are many caves". Or "its a palace of some type, hes underground".

Just read the original question.

beavis · August 04, 2003, 17:00:58

Is it my fault people get angry when I talk against USA? I knew it would offend them, but it had to be done to say my opinion. A lot of their opinions about this offend me, but I didnt try to censor them. I AM innocent.

MJ-12 · August 04, 2003, 17:07:27

nh

LogoRat · August 04, 2003, 17:21:41

Do you REALLY think its either Left Or Right!

You act as if you are sitting on your asses and having one red card and one blue card and someone says "VOTE" and you are to vote and you do it without questioning.
And then you stick to that vote.
Its really easy to convince people to act in a sertain way to continue your agenda.
If people get scared they let the people that are controlling them to defend them, and what the people are doing is to letting their leaders do whatever they want.. they only have to say "We do this for your protection" and the people will say OK.

Dont let the media and those in control telling you what is truth, think for yourself...

Im not saying that i have all the answers but i dont think people that can start a war and kill thousands of people without blinking is to trust.

And if media has always been a fan to destruction and killing and want that really badly to report, why would i trust them that the story behind it is true?

Try to get information from different sources than just let the Media and those in control over you tell you what the truth is.

Dont just take everything for granted, try to see the bigger picture.

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