HOW DO YOU BRING BACK STUFF FROM ASTRAL WORLDS?

James S · September 20, 2003, 05:12:50

Hi again Dimitrius,

It would be pretty cool, as some people have seen stuff there like nothing on earth, but the straight up answer is no, can't be done! The Astral world is not a physical world, it exists purely of energy, not matter. Nothing physical exists in the astral that could be brought back.

Regards,
James.

Dimitrius · September 20, 2003, 05:46:08

I disagree with you, I think it's all possible. My opinion.

Tisha · September 20, 2003, 06:28:56

There are stories from south and central America about sorcerers who were successful at bringing objects back from the astral . . . but with disasterous results. These could simply be story-warnings not to even try it. Or, maybe it really happened. Who knows?

URGO · September 20, 2003, 06:40:48

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wantsumrice · September 20, 2003, 11:21:17

is that pic really you tish?

URGO...please...

DImitrius...are you URGO?...

anyway, you mind cutting down the usage of "yeah"? i feel embarrassed for you! [^]

dino333 · September 20, 2003, 11:55:28

The avatar is of Elvira

Anonymous · September 20, 2003, 12:11:44

If you're going to bring back stuff from the astral, or try to, remember that although the astral IS all energy, so too is our physical world. Without energy it would not exist. However, I think there is something the physical world has that the astral world doesn't. Whatever it is, it is responsible for making the energy into things like atoms and molecules. Then there are different kinds of energies here on earth such as qi, heat, potential, electrical, kinetic, mechanical, biological, etc.

Whatever it is that makes the energy into atoms, molecules, solid matter, etc., it is needed if you decide to bring things back from the astral. I will not say that this does not have any negative results. I have never tried it so I don't know for sure, but if it does have negative results, I think there's a reason. I don't think astral things were meant to come into the physical. I could be wrong, though...

Hephaestus · September 20, 2003, 16:17:17

Dimitrius/URGO, dont have too many nightmares tonight, eh. [

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Syke · September 23, 2003, 00:26:44

i highly doubt anything bad could happen if u brought some small objects back (if its possible)... though if you could do that then u could more then likly bring anything back, such as a person, and there might be some repercussions there.

-Syke

WalkerInTheWoods · September 23, 2003, 04:26:19

I do not know how but I have heard that it is possible to bring things to the physical, so maybe it is possible. It would not make a good souvenir though as objects from other planes have a high tendancy to return to their plane of origin. So even it if you could bring something back, it would not stay here for very long. This is all from reading other sources and not from actual experience so who knows.

beavis · September 28, 2003, 09:40:16

I've never brought anything back from astral except energy. I have had a few physical objects change slightly, but there is no doubt that they did change. The biggest of these changes (a change of text in a book, still perfectly printed) happened around the time I had a lot of energy and tried to merge the physical and astral worlds.

LeCosmic · September 28, 2003, 09:59:43

Doesn't Sia babba created things in the astral world whilst still in his body and force them to materialize in his hands?.....didn't Jesus Christ do exactly the same thing?....if that is he even existed..but the theory is sound...visualize something with so much energy that it manifest right before your eyes....

When i want something in my life i do this...but it takes a week or so to appear...and it's not always in the way i thought...guess i'm an amatuer...

beavis · September 28, 2003, 10:13:19

When i want something in my life i do this...but it takes a week or so to appear...and it's not always in the way i thought...

That kind of stuff might happen to everybody, but without the theories behind astral projection (dogma?), the improbability of these events isnt usually enough to make us investigate their causes.

APGuy · September 28, 2003, 18:48:04

My understanding is that the only difference between astral/etheric energy and physical matter is vibration. Astral/etheric emergy is on a higher vibration than physical matter. So make an astral/etheric device that lowers vibration and hook it up to your object. Before you do this I would recommend consulting your higher self/spirit guide and maybe the akashic records. And also make sure it can't lower the vibrations of conciousness so your energy body doesn't go down to the physical with it by accident and then it get's killed. That (if it's possible) wouldn't be good. I personally think that your energy body might lower but not your conciousness. So in the end theoretically it's possible but I haven't OOBed yet so I wouldn't know.

beavis · September 28, 2003, 23:13:32

APguy make an astral/etheric device that lowers vibration and hook it up to your object

Current science doesnt know how to use sound waves to lower light waves, so it also doesnt know how to use physical waves to lower astral waves.

topacio · September 30, 2003, 16:07:13

Greetings All!

I agree with LeCosmic, there are documentaries on Sai Baba bringing material objects from the astral plane. I am not aware on how it is accomplished yet, but I will know how someday [

]. My advice is to ask your higher self and the answer shall come to you. Besides, everything is possible... [

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Tisha · September 30, 2003, 17:34:45

I've effected changes in other realms that were reflected in the here-and-now when I "woke up." I did not bring back an object, but willed a change to an existing one: my cat-familiar, McKenzie.

It was almost by accident. He was old, skinny, scraggly and ill. He jumped on my bed and disturbed my deep-state. As I was coming out of it, I had a deep, deep wish for him to be young and healthy again. Amazingly, he was suddenly all poofy and fluffy and wide-eyed! I kept running my hands through his new fur, all amazed, for days.

Like someone mentioned before, however, the effects did not last for long. A few days and it had all faded away, and McKenzie was his old, snaggle-toothed self again. He died a few years ago, I miss him [

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beavis · September 30, 2003, 21:54:03

Tisha, thats a big change! I changed the text of a book. A very small change. But the text is still changed. I just looked at it. Why do you think your change was temporary and mine wasnt? Might be because yours was a lot bigger.

WalkerInTheWoods · October 01, 2003, 05:41:17

Maybe your memory is not so good, beavis. hehe I have never heard of a change being permenant, or text in a book changing. Could be a real benefit to the governments if the world becomes like it does in 1984. How big was the change?

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Why do you think your change was temporary and mine wasnt?

It could be that your change was on a nonliving thing and her's effected something that is living and conscious. Possibly you just move the ink which would not be as drastic as making a cat look younger.

Dimitrius · September 20, 2003, 01:34:27

Yeah, I was wondering, how does one bring back stuff from the astral world to the Physical world. Yeah, cause If I ever have an OBE, then I'd like to take some souveniers with me and bring them back with me
here on 3d earth! Yeah, that be cool for sure.

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