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Tisha

The mark of an extraordinary person is transcendance of hormonal/instinctive urges.

That goes for women and men alike!   I'm not talking about "fighting" the urge. . . when you fight an urge it only fights back anyway.  

Transcendance means "to rise above."  As a woman, I can rise above my instinctual need to "have a man" to feel safe and protected.  I can also choose to rise above my possessiveness, my gatherer (shopping) instinct, my need to hoard things or (s)mother/control my children.  

All these sex-stereotypes come from genuine hormonal/instinctive urges.  That doesn't mean we have to be ruled by them!

But remember . . . probably the most powerful need, besides the survival instinct, is the need to feel loved, needed, wanted, desired.  Both men and women do the stupidest, most mindless things in the blind search for these things, including infidelity - - - one of the most inflammatory and risky of human behaviors.  Truly a double-edged sword.  You might grasp at the golden ring . . . but lose the horse underneath you.
Tisha

travelinbob

Men and Women do have biological reasons to cheat: diversity in the gene pool. This is a very basic biological instinct.

I believe the higher the spiritual development the less important this seems to be since the idea of reproducing with high divesity is a strategy to insure genetic inmortality but we know that we are inmortal (our souls at least). So this cheating thing becomes less necessary with increased spiritual awareness.

Even the search for one parnter become less important, in my experience. Not that I'm not looking, but it is not a priority as it used to be. Plus the inner peace spirituality brings kills that conflict-driven animal Magnetism and alpha maleness that most women flock to.

But the stereotype of the male homo sapien trying to inseminate as many females as possible is very much alive in many. Fortunatley socialization has taken the edge off of these animalistic instincts. Otherwise who knows . . ..  So I agree with Tisha.

Tisha

Recent article:
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LONDON (Reuters) - A leading British museum has paid $387,000 for a Renaissance plate which shows a male head made up entirely of phalluses.

The Italian plate is thought to have been made by ceramicist Francesco Urbini in the 16th century.

It shows a head made up of around 50 fleshy penises, wrapped round each other to form a dense, knotted whole.

The head is framed by a garland carrying the inscription: "Ogni homo me guarda come fosse una testa de cazi" (Every man looks at me as if I were a dickhead).

The phrase is still a common term of abuse in Italy and elsewhere.

Oxford's Ashmolean Museum, which has bought the plate, describes it as "one of the most extraordinary and fascinating pieces of Italian maiolica (a style of ceramic painting) in existence."

It is a rare example of bawdy Renaissance art which survived the suppression of later, more prudish, generations, it said.

The Ashmolean said the inspiration for the plate remains obscure but it was painted "presumably with an individual in mind."




Tisha

Squeek

I would agree that the stereotypes suck alot.  It hits you hard in high school these days.  Everybody expects you to act some way, and if you don't, well then you're a weird person that they don't want to talk to.  Thaaat's meee!!

~Squeek

wantsumrice

I say screw the stereotype! It is true that highschool is where the most judgements lay and where people are always criticizing others, but its such a good learning place because of this! There may or maynot be a reason for societies greatest vices shown in highschool, but it is very fun to see and to learn from these. Here i am in highschool and im having so much fun just watching societies grip holding onto these poor humans! [:D] I try to enlighten them...but suprise suprise they deny and dont accept what i tell them.

But it is also good to subconciously slip lessons into conversations with people in high school.

Well...about the male stereotype Tisha responded very well with that but you cant do much about the stereotype, because we are men [;)]

The stereotype that women dont cheat? Are you joking? Women are as faithful to their options as men are!

But i do agree with you that society has built up so many rules, regulations, stereotypes and judgements that wherever you go its inevitable...how foolish [^]

Love be with all,
~ivan

Squeek

*oink*

I am the exception to any and all stereotypes mmkay.  First of all, I used to take these forums seriously..like everybody else.  LOOK AT ME NOW! [:P]

School, eh?  Worrying about homework, hating teachers and striving for good grades? AS IF!  I don't do any homework at home... I love all my teachers (although they may not love me [8D]) and grades are just unimportant.

As a male...  well look at it this way.  I've had countless amounts of people tell me they thought I was not a guy for the first 3 weeks they saw me on the forums.  That does hurt me very little...but still, it proves my point.

~Squeek

Spirit_k9

-Most- of society thrives on stereotypes, and I agree, they suck.

There's little you can do to pry the stereotypes out of the minds of the rest of the world population since society is practically based on the human need to fit everyone in some category or another. Since you can't control what others think and do (wouldn't want to anyway) the thing to do is control how -you- think and act.



James S

Ahh, gender stereotypes. Is't it a wonderful thing that we have an abundence of informative reading material at our disposal to help combat this illusion? The sensible and practical publications such as Cleo and Cosmo, and Men's Healthh & GQ.

For example -
from the front cover of Cosmo:
"Max Out Your Pleasure - the hottest things you can do with a man in 5, 30 and 60 minutes."
"Are You Good In Bed? How often are you game to try different sex positions?"

From Cleo (Australian):
"I bought my boyfriend a Hooker!"
"6 Weeks to Sexy - supermodel beauty tricks"
"Best Body Challenge - bikinify your bod"


from GQ:
"GQ Challenge: How well do you know your sex godesses?"
"GQ Sex Quiz: How well do you know your lust objects?"

from Men's Health:
"Unleash your testosterone naturally to lose fat and build muscle"
"Sex: Another good trick for lasting longer"

So with quality publications such as these in abundance to tell us just how we should live our lives, how could anyone possibly think that gender stereotypes still exist? [;)]

[:)]
James.

Nick

James, lol [:D]  quite true, and those types of magazines are all over the supermarkets, waiting rooms, and so forth. Not to mention the stuff that television commercials and certain tv programs project on people. [xx(] We really have to struggle to rise above all the hooey that's thrown our way.



Very best,
"What lies before us, and what lies behind us, are tiny matters compared to what lies within us...." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Tisha

Stereotypes, ha ha.  Check out the following classic! Mose of the men in my hometown are like this . . . that's why I ran away as soon as I graduated from high school(it was a relatively small midwestern town, and football was king).

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A classic:  The Men's List.

Finally, the guy's side of the story.  We always hear "the rules" from the female side.  Now here are the rules from the male side.  These are our rules!

•   Please note . . . these are all numbered "1" ON PURPOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Learn to work the toilet seat.  You're a big girl.  If it's up, put it down.  We need it up, you need it down. You don't hear us complaining about you leaving it down.

1. Sunday=Sports.  It's like the full moon or the changing of the tides.  Let it be.

1. Shopping is NOT a sport.  And no, we are never going to think of it that way.

1. Crying is blackmail.

1. Ask for what you want.  Let us be clear on this one:  Subtle hints do not work! Strong hints do not work! Obvious hints do not work! Just say it!

1. Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers to almost every question.

1. Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it.  That's what we do.  Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for.

1. A headache that lasts for 17 months is a problem.  See a doctor.

1. Anything we said 6 months ago is inadmissible in an argument.  In fact, all comments become null and void after 7 days.

1. If you won't dress like the Victoria's Secret girls, don't expect us to act like soap opera guys.

1. If you think you're fat, you probably are.  Don't ask us.

1. If something we said can be interpreted two ways, and one of the ways makes you sad or angry, we meant the other one.

1. You can ask us to do something or tell us how you want it done.  Not both.  If you already know best how to do it, just do it yourself.

1. Whenever possible, please say whatever you have to say during commercials.

1. Christopher Columbus did not need directions and neither do we.

1. ALL men see in only 16 colors, like Windows default settings.  Peach, for example, is a fruit, not a color.  Pumpkin is also a fruit.  We have no idea what mauve is.

1. If it itches, it will be scratched.

1. If we ask what is wrong and you say "nothing," we will act like nothing's wrong. We know you are lying but it is just not worth the hassle.

1. If you ask a question you don't want us to answer, expect an answer you don't want to hear.

1. When we have to go somewhere, absolutely anything you wear is fine . . . Really.

1. Don't ask us what we're thinking about unless you are prepared to discuss such topics as baseball, the shotgun formation, or monster trucks.

1. You have enough clothes.

1. You have too many shoes.

1. I am in shape.  Round is a shape.

1. Thank you for reading this: Yes, I know, I have to sleep on the couch tonight, but did you know men really don't mind that, it's like camping.
Tisha

no_leaf_clover

Yes, stereotypes = bad. Of course. They can lead you to think inaccurately of someone you don't know well just because they belong to a certain gender, nationality, sexuality, race, wear a certain type of clothes, etc., etc., etc.....

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Originally posted by Tisha

Recent article:
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LONDON (Reuters) - A leading British museum has paid $387,000 for a Renaissance plate which shows a male head made up entirely of phalluses.

The Italian plate is thought to have been made by ceramicist Francesco Urbini in the 16th century.

It shows a head made up of around 50 fleshy penises, wrapped round each other to form a dense, knotted whole.

The head is framed by a garland carrying the inscription: "Ogni homo me guarda come fosse una testa de cazi" (Every man looks at me as if I were a dickhead).

The phrase is still a common term of abuse in Italy and elsewhere.

Oxford's Ashmolean Museum, which has bought the plate, describes it as "one of the most extraordinary and fascinating pieces of Italian maiolica (a style of ceramic painting) in existence."

It is a rare example of bawdy Renaissance art which survived the suppression of later, more prudish, generations, it said.

The Ashmolean said the inspiration for the plate remains obscure but it was painted "presumably with an individual in mind."



lmao!! Synchronicity at its best. We've been studying the renaissance for a while in my world history class. Ahh.. Such a great period of time. On top of all the hilarious (and often illegal) criticisms made of all sorts of things, you have art of alleged dickheads consisting of tiny penises.

lmao!! Synchronicity at its best. We've been studying the renaissance for a while in my world history class. Ahh.. Such a great period of time. On top of all the hilarious (and often illegal) criticisms made of all sorts of things, you have artworks depicting alleged dickheads consisting of tiny penises.

Italians.. those pizza-whirling, Catholic people that look like Mario and Luigi! ...or are/do they? [?]
What is the sound of no leaves cloving?

WalkerInTheWoods

I am growing tired of the male stereotype that is practically accepted as a norm. What I am talking about is the idea that all men are basicly horn dogs that would shag any woman that they could given the chance reguardless of being single, in a relationship, or married. This is pushed on us, or from what I see, on tv shows, news, magazine articles, and "science studies" all suggesting that it is only natural for males to be unfaithful and want to "sow their oats" everywhere.

First, most men I know are not like this. Most I know would never consider cheating on their partners nor would they want to. They don't size up every women or go out on the hunt. I personally do not want a different woman every night. I want just one partner. From what I have seen, males are faithful and can commit.

Second, the stereotype of women is that they are faithful and do not cheat. They only desire their male partner and do not consider other males as possibilities. Now while most women I know are like this, I have met and talked with a lot more females who fit the male stereotype than males who fit it.

I guess my point is it is so foolish for society to stereotype this to all males or even most and then also to not consider that females can be just as such. It seems to be a behavior that is in both reguardless of sex.

Maybe I am just in the minority.
Alice had got so much into the way of expecting nothing but out-of-the-way things to happen, that it seemed quite dull and stupid for life to go on in the common way.