where can i get one, post a link where can i download it for free, thanks in advance!
Why do you believe you need it?
1)I seem to be having bad luck, 2) also i have a lot of conflicts on daily basis, i am a peacful good guy imo (loads of people would disagree) and i never really get on with other people well, and if i do it's for a short while, i have to admit that i do think of myself first and foremost though.... in many situations
But i never for my whole life have got on with other people well
2) nothing ever goes according to plan
3) i always ( umm well for the most part) seem to make the wrong decisions & choices
so i figure why not look in to it....................
Nah man you want Protection and Reversal Magick by Jason Miller (http://www.amazon.com/Protection-Reversal-Magick-Beyond-101/dp/1564148793) it's only $10.00 and worth the cost. Anyway, unless you're traveling in occult circles or a natural psychic is mad at you then it's probably due to a mundane reason.
There are methods like the circulation of white light and L.B.R.P. , from the golden dawn , there easy to find or I can post some free links . There also in many books on the golden dawn . desert rat
Quote from: desert-rat on February 08, 2013, 17:31:40
There are methods like the circulation of white light and L.B.R.P. , from the golden dawn , there easy to find or I can post some free links . There also in many books on the golden dawn . desert rat
Yeah man, give me them free links.
The basic idea is to fill and sround your self with white light . It works standing , siting , or lieing down , with or with out the words in Hebrew . A post by me on a now closed forum http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/psychic-paranormal/68328-circulation-white-light.html http://www.wicca-spirituality.com/lbrp.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesser_ritual_of_the_pentagram http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qRGf9oKalk There are many more links that are easy to find . There are versions by Robert Monroe and DickSutphen ect. on some of there self hypnosis tapes . desert rat
Thanks guys, will have a lot of reading to do tomorrow!!!
You don't need anything to defend yourself. uuuugh
Nothing will be learned if fear is still thought of as an outside force.
Quote from: Xanth on February 08, 2013, 17:15:07
Why do you believe you need it?
I know.
I often wonder if I have some sort of super power. I have had over 4000+ experiences... Yes I'm pulling the 'How many times I've been nonphysical' out of the hat AGAIN... I have never needed magic or protection. Does this mean I am special? That I am immune to EVIL?
Please don't answer this in ernest... I am NOT interested. :-)
It begins... again.
Quote from: Bedeekin on February 10, 2013, 04:58:36
You don't need anything to defend yourself. uuuugh
Nothing will be learned if fear is still thought of as an outside force.
It begins... again.
...and unfortunately won't go away, no matter how many posts are made here on this subject.
Bedeekin and Xanth speak the truth.
Just like FDR said " The only thing we have to FEAR is FEAR itself! :wink:
It also happens in clusters. :-D
I've been offline for a few days and return to belief-centricity and occult-based material.
It really is a step back on what we are learning.
To point to an outside evil force sets the human race back to the days of the inquisition.
As a former black magician I can assure you that some people do need psychic defense.
Which people?
Why not me?
Why not Lionheart?
Why not Xanth?
Why not Tom Campbell?
Why not Robert Monroe?
What type of people need the assistance of black magic to stop evil things from getting them?
I need to understand this to take it seriously... that's all.
The majority of people that I've encountered that think some evil is after them are normally delusional or paranoid. Most aren't intelligent, most are superstitious, for most it's all in their heads.
I could make a post on it if you want, you could judge whether it was real or not... it's just a hurtful part of my past that I didn't want to go into here really.
No no... you don't need to do that. :-)
Don't drag up hurtful parts of your past. Live for the NOW. Be in the NOW. :)
It doesn't sound like you're having any problems that need you to defend yourself. :)
It kind of sounds like you're your own worst enemy. hehe
Quote from: Helmet987 on February 08, 2013, 17:27:52
1)I seem to be having bad luck
This is 100% perceptual. Change your perception on what you're experiencing.
Quote2) also i have a lot of conflicts on daily basis, i am a peacful good guy imo (loads of people would disagree) and i never really get on with other people well, and if i do it's for a short while, i have to admit that i do think of myself first and foremost though.... in many situations
But i never for my whole life have got on with other people well
You won't get along with everyone you meet along the path that is your life. This is just how it is. You'll need to accept this.
You might also want to look at the quality of the people you're interacting with on a daily basis... perhaps you're making the wrong choices as to who you call friend?
Quote2) nothing ever goes according to plan
hehe That's what we call life. :)
Quote]3) i always ( umm well for the most part) seem to make the wrong decisions & choices
so i figure why not look in to it....................
I'm sure you've made "some" right choices in your life as well. But in any case, the choices you've made are the ones that define who you are. We are the sum of all our experiences in this physical reality.
Honestly? All it sounds to me is that you need to reflect upon the choices you've made and the people you choose to share your life with.
Other than that, Helmet987, you sound like you've got a good head on your shoulders. Trust in it more. :)
Quote from: Steel Hawk on February 10, 2013, 07:09:06
As a former black magician I can assure you that some people do need psychic defense.
I'm kind of onside here with Bedeekin.
I've been projecting for... well... pretty much for as long as I can remember. Starting as far back as my memories begin...
I've never experienced anything that has caused me harm.
I don't accept "bad things happening to me" as a cause for alarm... I view them as "just crap that happens".
I simply do not buy into the whole boogieman phenomenon.
YOU have direct control over just about every aspect of your life. People need to begin to take responsibility for their choices.
Remember, "evil" is just yet another label people arbitrarily thrust upon actions. Labeling something as evil doesn't make it evil. It only makes YOUR perception of it evil. <-- There's a huge difference there.
On Robert Monroe , I dont think he addressed psychic attack , or psychic defense in any of his 3 books , but on at least one of his self hypnosis tapes he uses a method close to what is know as the middle pillar . It builds up ones energy and forms a layer of protection , he may of protected him self with out knowing it . In all of DickSutphen's self hypnosis tapes he has you fill and sournd your self with white light , as do many others . Llewellyn has a good book on psychic self defense. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=0875421903 desert rat
Quote from: desert-rat on February 10, 2013, 11:26:19
On Robert Monroe , I dont think he addressed psychic attack , or psychic defense in any of his 3 books , but on at least one of his self hypnosis tapes he uses a method close to what is know as the middle pillar . It builds up ones energy and forms a layer of protection , he may of protected him self with out knowing it . In all of DickSutphen's self hypnosis tapes he has you fill and sournd your self with white light , as do many others . Llewellyn has a good book on psychic self defense. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=0875421903 desert rat
The energy thing he does is to instill positive energy within you to assist in finding positive experiences, along with getting your supposed energy flowing for what's to come.
Actually, the "protection" he gives people is the paragraph that he has people say during the gateway cd's. I forget the exact wording, but it's along the line of only allowing positive entities to you whose knowledge is equal to or greater than your own. And that's really only to influence your Intent.
Apart from that, he never spoke about, to my knowledge, "protection". It simply isn't required.
I used to wake up from SP punching the air
Now I wake up and laugh at the fact that I was trying to fight myself
The demon ready to harvest my organs is nothing now, I took away his power by realizing he was part of me
and now he cleans tables at Mcdonalds.
Job Done!
Quote from: Bedeekin on February 10, 2013, 07:28:11
Which people?
Why not me?
Why not Lionheart?
Why not Xanth?
Why not Tom Campbell?
Why not Robert Monroe?
What type of people need the assistance of black magic to stop evil things from getting them?
I need to understand this to take it seriously... that's all.
But Tom Campbell DID talked about these things,he actually talked in his videos and wrote on forum about it.He actually wrote on some post on his forum about vodoo,etc.Why not him?I understood that when you generally on path of love(low entropy),you happens to be pretty safe and more powerful in those maters,he mentions fear(high entropy)as a "handle"for bad intent contact.Some people here appear like only good intent exists,but is only half of the story(if you believe Tom Campbell,and many have respect for the man),he clearly states(if you watched his videos)that intent is neutral and that can be used with good or bad intentions.And what magic is but intent wrapped in some belief,mental tools for the same intent to be operative.
I personally don't know,but for me Tom is the most balanced "knower" of these things,and if I choose who to listen it would be him(specially because hi said not to trust him but to make your own research :-D),from this distance I think that there is no problem at all,when you understand Tom.
I think I understand what Lionheart,Hanth,and Bedeekin are saying and I agree,for the most part.It is more constructive to be positive,to face fears,to take responsibility for ones own life.One question arises for these type of things:how do you know that you under some sort of attack,etc.?It is not cool idea just to believe in anything,Aldo that kind of things potentially exist.I remember one post from MBT forum with similar theme,point was it is extremely rare to be attacked by some person by this way,people who trained,probably for years, themselves to artificially lower entropy trough control got better busyness to do but to deal with "ordinary"people.
It rings so true and important Bedeekin's:Nothing will be learned if fear is still thought of as an outside force.
Our life and what is important always comes to ourselves,begin from yourself and everything will be clearer.
Also little off topic but kind off related is "demons thing",for me it is a metaphor for opposed to evolution(opposed to lowering entropy of whole system) oriented beings not in these PMR,simple as that,so when I die(if, :-D),if I am psychopath I become by perception of somebody labeled as a demon.
My two cents.
I also look at is as since I am going into their realm per say, or another dimension however you want to put it. Why would I expect them to look identical to us? Possibly we are the scary ones there.
We have to get rid of this thinking that we are the "top of the food chain" per say. There are many other races out there and quite a few of them have nothing in common with us. Some of them are just beings of light, no body at all. They just "are".
Once again we are thinking of things from a Human point of view instead of a consciousness one.
Place yourself as a singularity, the point source of conciousness. You have no form just the awareness that you are within.
Why would you require self defense?
There's norhing 'out there' thats going to get ya.
There IS something inside that CAN.
Its known as YOU.
Be aware of this and you'll be defending yourself from the you that cant.
Edit: I went too far (post deleted), you know what believe whatever you want. Every person I told outside these forums about OBEs thought I was a liar, delusional, mistaken, or on LSD. I'm just surprised at the level of ..nevermind.
Quote from: Steel Hawk on February 10, 2013, 19:44:24
Edit: I went too far (post deleted), you know what believe whatever you want. Every person I told outside these forums about OBEs thought I was a liar, delusional, mistaken, or on LSD. I'm just surprised at the level of ..nevermind.
I dunno what to say really, Steel Hawk. Nobody means to insult or offend you, I hope that is understood. :) We're all friends here.
Many of us here have been projecting for a long time, and I don't think anyone (or very few) have encountered any real issues that required defense of some form.
So then, what's the difference? Those of us whom have had no problems... are we special? Does this aspect just stay away from us? Is there something else? Beliefs? A different perspective?
Who knows really... we can only speak from our own experiences, and those experiences tell us that there's really very little (if anything at all) to be worried about, as long as you're projecting with Love.
Quote from: Steel Hawk on February 10, 2013, 19:44:24
Edit: I went too far (post deleted), you know what believe whatever you want. Every person I told outside these forums about OBEs thought I was a liar, delusional, mistaken, or on LSD. I'm just surprised at the level of ..nevermind.
You can talk to some one a few minutes and find there mind set/ belief system . If there locked in to a reglious belief system and un able to see beyond it , then its best not to discuss areas like med. phys. , a.p. , ect. I remember this Mormon lady that for some reason the convo. got to a.p. and reincarnation , she really surprized me , its not part of the Mormon reg. , or I dont think it is . On psychic self protection , I guess its a matter of beliefs . desert rat
Thanks Xanth... Nobody did anything wrong, everyone has a right to say what they've experienced or believe in. I guess it's just a sensitive issue for me. I'll open up about it later in a separate post, or at least try to. Sorry if I'm not making much sense. <3
Quote from: Steel Hawk on February 10, 2013, 22:12:47
Thanks Xanth... Nobody did anything wrong, everyone has a right to say what they've experienced or believe in. I guess it's just a sensitive issue for me. I'll open up about it later in a separate post, or at least try to. Sorry if I'm not making much sense. <3
I know it's hard sometimes, especially when you're speaking from your own direct experiences... because you're really opening yourself up at that point.
I'm not saying you're doing this, but I try to keep an open mind when talking about my own direct experiences. Someone can always come along and provide their direct experience which then goes completely contrary to your own experience. At which point, it's time to ask yourself if what you experienced is a "rule" or a "guideline". :)
Over the time I've posted here, if you read my entire post history, you'll see many such shifts in what I share. It's been quite the rollercoaster ride here. LoL
I look forward to learning more about what you have to say. Everyone has an interesting perspective. :)