PURPOSE OF GIFTS?

[WarriorPoet]

I am Xander.A Druid. A Star Child of the Creative consciousness. I have always "known" my purpose yet have not known how. Till recently. We are here to generate a rebirth of the compassionate Spirit within. To teach the world to see beyond the illusion. I believe it is my duty to teach those who yearn for truth and feel at loss for it, that all that there is is truth. There is no individuality and uniqueness. That is illusion. We are all part of the same Quantum Foam. The conscious energy of Creation. Many of us remember being ONE. Or for many, these memories are beginning to surface in an unreal way. The world of the unbelievable, depending on faith to be seen, is rapidly becoming, once again at the forefront of the mind of humanity Death and rebirth into enlightenment is inevitable for those who seek truth. The truth is that all is good and all is evil. Our purpose is not to "Be Good" or "Be Evil" is is to balance good and evil. To bring negative energy and positive energy back in sync. To return to Animal Consciousness. The only TRUE Awareness of the Spirit. I know you are aware of much. so many words are not necessary. Lets just say I was led to contact you. I also know that you have information or assistance for me to fulfill my purpose. I have been made aware that the quickening has begun. At the same instant the world began to die it began the process of immaculate conception. All "Religions", previously consumed and regurgitated by the roman empire, are beginning to reconnect to our consciousness. Druidism, Buddhism, Hinduism, The Mayan Faith. It has recently been discovered that the North American Indians were the ancestors of the world, being discovered in Europe and Asia having coming from the Americas via the coast of Alaska. Their Ancient Spiritual Connection was one of supreme wisdom and harmony with nature. From the Americas we split off in four races, if you will. Over time our ONENESS was lost from memory. We no longer recognized our brothers and Sisters. Fear was born. Doubt. Ego. Pride. Competition. Uniqueness. The Need to Control. All born from ignorance and innocence and all part of the process of life death and rebirth. To know this is to know truth. This was done by a race we know as the Roman empire. the roman empires sole purpose was to fill humanity with fear. To shut down the faith system of ONENESS and to control the growth of humanity. This was not evil as without this evil we could not grow and advance and learn. Same as the cells and the atoms and molecules etc. all patterned with truth for us to find when we were ready. the age of Quantum Reality brings truth to what once was thought to be fantasy. All is ONE. We are NEVER alone, never weak, never without wisdom and knowledge of ages. We must awaken the remainder of the world. This is not a goal but a fact. This will happen no matter what we "think" It is happening as we speak. the world is being humbled and eyes are opening to the truth. Talk to me. Let me talk to you. Talk to the world. There is only truth, love, and peace. The "Word of God" is Silence. The Nature of God is Peace. God IS truly LOVE. when fear is gone all that IS is Truth, Love, and ONENESS.
Peace love and light to you fellow seeker of truth,
Xander

[CaCoDeMoN]

What's the problem with individuality?

[WarriorPoet]

Individuality opposes Spirituality by its very definition.

[WarriorPoet]

It is your ego, the "me, me, me", that holds you back from amazing things.
Lose it and there is no limit to the opportunities. If we harbor even the slightest remnant of Desire to Receive for the Self Alone and all that is connected to it, we cannot connect with the joy and fulfillment that the Creator intends for us.

[CaCoDeMoN]

What you are talking about is only one path. It is called right hand path. What would I do if I would lose individuality? What would be my purpose? I think that only thing that makes life and world beautiful is it's diversity. If we would all be identical, the communication with others would have no meaning. What are those amazing things you are talking about?

[Nostic]

Both individuality and "oneness" have their place. But if you're only on one side of the dividing line, then there will be a sense of being incomplete. This is why we chose to incarnate in the first place. Because if you're only ONE with the whole, it has no meaning. Only being an individual gives it meaning. But only being an individual, you're still just on one side of the coin, and you feel restless, unfulfilled; or at best, you'll have moments of fulfillment, and then you'll keep going through life looking for that thing that is missing. Both "oneness" and individuality are important. They need each other to even have any meaning. But the ultimate potential for a human being is to transcend them both... so that you become both and neither... then there is no longer any conflict... you see the whole picture... and you are whole.
Of course, I only believe these things in my head. They're only lip-service really. I have yet to transcend the duality of the mind and verify all of these things experientially.

[SoulDragon]

Wothout individuality, I lose my... well... individuality. That is the thing that I have kept through all my life. I mean, I'm with CaCoDeMoN on this one. Sorry WarriorPoet and half-sorry Nostic (because I beleive you're half right), but without individuality, I would have lost the thing that has kept me on the right path forever. And one more thing, I don't mean ego individuality. I mean personality individuality.

[daem0n]

i won't discuss history
fear comes from ignorance, it is ignorance that should be aimed for
god is not love, it just is
the state can be simplified to peace, but it isn't peace

Individuality opposes Spirituality by its very definition
individuality is expression of one, and spirituality is returning to one
there is no contradiction
separation is a useful illusion
faith is the opposite of truth

desire is what keeps us alive
i know because i transcended desire, and will to live is in nothing to desire to live
substituting bliss for desire is deluding yourself, and it is not transcending desire
so i choose to desire to live, else i couldn't maintain this vehicle effectively
this is called acceptance

nostic is right, you are both and neither
still undescribeable

We are NEVER alone, never weak, never without wisdom and knowledge of ages.
yes, but can you understand the knowledge, reach for power ?
few dare
we are alone, but whole

gather up your notes and cut it short
effectivness is the measure of truth

being to all of you
take care

[CaCoDeMoN]

And the other thing is that after destroying your personality you probably would be able only to experience constant bliss, and you would not need to do anything. I think that this is not really a good way to use your consciousness. For me discovering who I really am is a great fun, and I can't wait to see what my past lives were.

[Nostic]

And one more thing, I don't mean ego individuality. I mean personality individuality.

How do you distinguish the 2? Meaning, what is your definition of each?

[Nostic]

And the other thing is that after destroying your personality you probably would be able only to experience constant bliss, and you would not need to do anything. I think that this is not really a good way to use your consciousness. For me discovering who I really am is a great fun, and I can't wait to see what my past lives were.

Well, ya know, there is bliss, and then there is bliss. Meaning, there are different definitions. You can think of bliss as the opposite being depressed, or as some kind of drugged-up feeling. But there is another type of bliss that goes beyond all definitions... goes beyond all words... goes beyond all expressions... and goes beyond all human understanding. To attain such a state... I, personally, cannot imagine a greater accomplishment.

[daem0n]

there is no difference between the 2, in fact they are one and the same
ego is lower self.
it is based on our experiences here, and there (astral, mental)
personality included
sheding earth ego means death. (bliss out to death)
what can be done is transformation, tranfiguration, and transcendence of ego
transcendence meaning shifting point of view outside it, not sheding it
sheding is done at physical, astral and mental death (each at a time)

[daem0n]

i will give you an example:
removal of all limitations from all that i am
integration of all that i am

you cannot imagine what we are

[Nostic]

there is no difference between the 2, in fact they are one and the same

Well I agree with u, but I wanted SoulDragon to think it through. I wanted to see how he defines those things and how his mind works.

[CaCoDeMoN]

Why we would choose to have an ego if it is not neccessary? Why do you want to advance spiritually, Daem0n?

[Nostic]

Why we would choose to have an ego if it is not necessary?

Well, the ego is very important. Through the ego we learn about ourselves, but not in the obvious way. The only way you can know who you are, is by first knowing who you are not. The ego is a false identity. But it something that we all need. The problem comes when we identify ourselves with the ego... when we assume that we are nothing more than the ego. But without our false, temporary identities, we'd have no way of defining  ourselves, no point of reference to define life.

[CaCoDeMoN]

Yes, ego can be described as an "false identity", because we use it only in this life, but who we really are then, and why we need to learn anything? What if we didn't choose to incarnate to learn some lessons, but mainly for fun, what if this is like a computer game and higher self(me, but from a higher "perspective")  enjoys it. When someones life is filled with suffering, it doesn't mean that it is not enjoyable from his/her higher self perspective.

[Nostic]

Yes, ego can be described as an "false identity", because we use it only in this life, but who we really are then, and why we need to learn anything? What if we didn't choose to incarnate to learn some lessons, but mainly for fun, what if this is like a computer game and higher self(me, but from a higher "perspective")  enjoys it. When someones life is filled with suffering, it doesn't mean that it is not enjoyable from his/her higher self perspective.

Who we really are is beyond words, beyond description, and beyond our logical, dualistic minds comprehension. That is why it must be experienced. It is for each individual to experience for themselves.  And in order to experience who we really are, we must transcend the mind.
You ask, why do we need to learn anything? You yourself said you like discovering who you are. Well, that's the whole point of leaning- to discover more about yourself.
I think life can be looked at however you like. I too look at life as a game, or a play, or a cosmic movie. There really is no wrong way to look at life.  There are just certain ways that cause more suffering than others. Life can be seen a playground, or a boot-camp, depending on your preference. And also, learning lessons can be fun. There doesn't need to be any separation there. I think on earth, we've made learning our lessons an ordeal because of our over-identification with our egos.

[CaCoDeMoN]

You are right about discovering who we are, Nostic, but why most of the higher level entities known as demons have ego? Ego is not about positivity or negativity, it is like a manifestation of who you are...

[daem0n]

ego is sum of our experiences, everywhere, at all levels
you high self has ego, you bet it
i would also argue that source has ego, because it has all experiences, the fact they are ALL experiences doesn't change anything
in fact you do not transcend your ego, but your unconsciousness, the fact of transcendence is integrated into your ego, enlightened incarnations remember more, but they are not enlightened from birth

we are here to solve problems of higher egos , namely oversoul, high self is rather irrelevant in the big picture, although VERY helpful
so for me it is boot camp, and i enjoy it

i want to be
no harm meant, but most people aren't
they simply react

[Nostic]

ego is sum of our experiences, everywhere, at all levels
you high self has ego, you bet it
i would also argue that source has ego, because it has all experiences, the fact they are ALL experiences doesn't change anything
in fact you do not transcend your ego, but your unconsciousness, the fact of transcendence is integrated into your ego, enlightened incarnations remember more, but they are not enlightened from birth

we are here to solve problems of higher egos , namely oversoul, high self is rather irrelevant in the big picture, although VERY helpful
so for me it is boot camp, and i enjoy it

i want to be
no harm meant, but most people aren't
they simply react

Define unconsciousness for me. I think we may just be playing with words here. This is why language is so problemental. Even though we may use the same words, we may not mean the same thing. When I say ego, I mean our limited human identities. And that definition is based on practically everything I've read concerning the ego. It seems that you have a different definition. Which is fine really. I'm not gonna argue over who is right or wrong.

[Nostic]

You are right about discovering who we are, Nostic, but why most of the higher level entities known as demons have ego? Ego is not about positivity or negativity, it is like a manifestation of who you are...

I can't say I know too much about demons, so I'm really unsure how to answer your question.

[daem0n]

unconsciousness  -  lack of awareness of oneself, and his actions
ego - sum of experiences that create "personality"

i find that i cannot use ego as per common definition, because it doesn't maintain integrity
what to call consciousness of higher beings then ? they do have personality, and their conditioning