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Title: Sylvia Brown says curses aren't real...
Post by: Nay on October 23, 2003, 04:18:52
I think she says that if you "believe" it can hurt you, it will.  That you give it the power.  I saw her on a show one day and a lady in the audience had carried around this stupid "voodoo" doll that someone had made of her and apparently she had tough times.  Her children kept telling her to throw it away.  Sylvia asked her why in the world is she holding on to it?  and to toss it away right now..that she was the one causing the "tough times"  not the stupid doll, because she had believed so much in it.  She was the one subconsciously making bad things happen.

Makes sense to me..  

Nay.
Title: Sylvia Brown says curses aren't real...
Post by: Tisha on October 24, 2003, 17:48:36
If curses don't work, then healing energy doesn't work either.  You can't have it both ways!  

Curses work, but Nay/Sylvia are right that in MOST cases, they work primarily upon the mind of the recipient  . . . just like healing energy does.  

Whether or not helpful or harmful energy will work upon an unwitting (i.e., un-knowing) patient/victim depends on the power of the sorcerer.  If s/he's for real, s/he will have experience and skill with the unseen realms and magical effect.  If this is the case, you have no choice but to take the hit (good in the case of healing energy), engage in skilled countermeasures, or call upon divine intervention!

However, skilled sorcerers are very, very rare.  Odds are, you will never meet a real one in your lifetime. Your garden variety occultist or witch generally can't pull it off.  Most are just wannabes . . . and can only affect you by working on your mind, so that you heal yourself, or do yourself in, however h/she twists it.
Title: Sylvia Brown says curses aren't real...
Post by: Mustardseed on October 26, 2003, 15:26:50
Curses work. However only when certain conditions coincide. Been there seen that up close and personal.It is loke pool depends on God position the curser and the cursee[;)]
Title: Sylvia Brown says curses aren't real...
Post by: CRIMINALMIND63 on October 26, 2003, 20:25:08
What would the definition of curses be?
Title: Sylvia Brown says curses aren't real...
Post by: Kelly on November 16, 2003, 04:00:30
This is an interesting thread!!

If someone has a curse on them, but they don't know it, will they still experience the negative experiences?

Kind of like.... if a tree falls in the forest but no one hears it... yada yada...

Kelly
Title: Sylvia Brown says curses aren't real...
Post by: APGuy on November 16, 2003, 16:11:26
quote:
Originally posted by Kelly

This is an interesting thread!!

If someone has a curse on them, but they don't know it, will they still experience the negative experiences?

Kind of like.... if a tree falls in the forest but no one hears it... yada yada...

Kelly


As far as curses are concerned I don't think that they effect the person unless they know about it.  Even if they know about it as long as they don't believe in it their won't be any effect.  It's the placebo effect.  As far as the tree in the woods is concerned it wouldn't make a sound because a brain and ears are needed to interpret the vibrations in the air as sounds before it is considered a sound and not just vibrations on the air.[:P]
Title: Sylvia Brown says curses aren't real...
Post by: Mustardseed on November 16, 2003, 16:15:51
I had one put on me . It almost killed me. I thought I was invisible and powerfull in my Chistian (pride)ignorance. Learned good things, and now understand more about how they work
Regards MS
Title: Sylvia Brown says curses aren't real...
Post by: Tisha on November 16, 2003, 16:27:53
Like I said before, most magical practitioners don't have the power to lay on a real curse and, like AP Guy says, will instead work on your knowledge of their ill intent.  HOWEVER, I disagree with AP guy that a person MUST know about a curse for it to work.  

In your life, the odds of you encountering a real sorcerer are slim to zip.  But don't take any chances.  Don't get snarky, tinkling people off  with impunity, thinking somehow you're immune.  You might get a rude awakening, and THEN what will you do? The odds of you finding another practitioner who can actually cure you are just as slim!

It's best to go through life making friends instead of enemies, anyway.
Title: Sylvia Brown says curses aren't real...
Post by: APGuy on November 16, 2003, 17:05:38
quote:
Originally posted by Tisha

Like I said before, most magical practitioners don't have the power to lay on a real curse and, like AP Guy says, will instead work on your knowledge of their ill intent.  HOWEVER, I disagree with AP guy that a person MUST know about a curse for it to work.  

In your life, the odds of you encountering a real sorcerer are slim to zip.  But don't take any chances.  Don't get snarky, tinkling people off  with impunity, thinking somehow you're immune.  You might get a rude awakening, and THEN what will you do? The odds of you finding another practitioner who can actually cure you are just as slim!

It's best to go through life making friends instead of enemies, anyway.


I see what you mean however curses isn't the terminology I would use.  Yes sorcery is possible however it's just another means of triggering the synapse.  Psychic phenomena and sorcery/witchcraft/magick are all the same thing, triggering the synapse.  However I don't think that curses are an accurate word because psychics can do the same thing by a different method.  I can do minor stuff like giving headaches.  Don't worry I'm not mean with it.  So yes curses are possible however I guess I forgot that little thing I just said plus curses just doesn't seem the right word to me *shrug*[:P].  Hope that makes sense.
Oh yes and if I'm right witch I'm fairly sure I am then a psychic shield would stop a "curse" or psychic attack or whatever you would like to call it.  A psychic shield or psi shield is put up by simply going into a light trance and imagining whatever you think of strong rapping around you.  Some people make these subconciously for example my cousin.  She says she still believes me though [:P] (she's into phenomena stuff).  I tought my friend this and now I think he's either maintaining it himself or subconciously maintaining it because my headaches/pinches/itches (with his permission) haven't worked since.  Oh and if you want think of a layer on top of the strong layer made of a mirror that will reflect it back at them.  Oh and to bring it down imagine it evaporating not collapsing because this could give you a severe headache (atleast that's what I read).
Title: Sylvia Brown says curses aren't real...
Post by: APGuy on November 16, 2003, 17:56:59
Oh and as far as the synapse thing is concerned it is the parts of the brain that transmit information through the brain through electrical currents.  From experience I would say that spirit guides/higher selves can also be the cause of psychic phenomena however I think that the synapses are the catylasts(sp?) of the energy which is programmed to do a certain thing.
Title: Sylvia Brown says curses aren't real...
Post by: Risu no Kairu on October 23, 2003, 02:42:22
I don't think that's right, though...

Besides.... don't some of you people have curses?