What do you think? Entities? Or are you creating it?

[AstralCody]

I have been reading a lot of comments on here from way back... to now. It seems a lot of people believe what they see out of body is a separate entity apart from you. Beings... other people... ET's... You name it.

Then I read a lot of comments that say you create everything you see out of body. If that's true in the astral... Where the hell is everyone else? I do know that in the RTZ things manifest like crazy. Instantly. Here it takes a while.

I personally don't know and don't care too much, because if the data is not important to me then I just experience it for what it is. I just wanting to make this topic to see what you all think! Also... I do agree ESPECIALLY in sleep paralysis I am pretty solid on my theory that everything you see is something you are creating or like a hallucination. But, what would I know?

[Lionheart]

I just wanting to make this topic to see what you all think! Also... I do agree ESPECIALLY in sleep paralysis I am pretty solid on my theory that everything you see is something you are creating or like a hallucination. But, what would I know?

If you feel this is true, than why are you still attempting to AP? There is no more mystery there, if you have all the answers. 

[Bedeekin]

I agree with the hallucinatory properties of what is seen and interpreted through SP. That has been a given for me for years.

The 'entities' or 'characters' encountered once fully immersed in the nonphysical are another matter.

[Xanth]

I have been reading a lot of comments on here from way back... to now. It seems a lot of people believe what they see out of body is a separate entity apart from you. Beings... other people... ET's... You name it.

Then I read a lot of comments that say you create everything you see out of body. If that's true in the astral... Where the hell is everyone else? I do know that in the RTZ things manifest like crazy. Instantly. Here it takes a while.

I personally don't know and don't care too much, because if the data is not important to me then I just experience it for what it is. I just wanting to make this topic to see what you all think! Also... I do agree ESPECIALLY in sleep paralysis I am pretty solid on my theory that everything you see is something you are creating or like a hallucination. But, what would I know?

You're asking the wrong question...

"is it real, or are you creating it?" isn't what you need to be asking...

"is what you're experiencing helpful to you in some way?" is what you need to ask yourself. 

[ChopstickFox]

The mind is pretty amazing, I don't doubt that we are creating what we see, our subconscious bringing things to the surface messages that we can learn from and pick up on. But who am I to say that everything is created that way? There is so much that we don't understand and that is probably the most fascinating thing of it all.

[AteBits]

Simple answer, its a mix between self created things and non self created things.
Lets say a thought form manifests as an entity.. then what makes it less real than a thought form manifested by someone or something else? They are as real as any other thing out there. With its own consciousness. Everything is consciousness. So an entity = consciosness and so do your self manifested thoughtforms. I'v also read alot of books that says that many projectors dont meet other people, but some meet people all the time. I dunno why that is.

[Stookie_]

I think the majority of what is mentioned on the forum are self-projected things, as most experiences here are lower-astral experiences where you experience your subconscious objectively.

But that doesn't mean that's always the case. Saying everything is a subconscious projection isn't correct. Non-physical, non-human beings exist. I also think the subconscious can exaggerate something small into something huge, so it can be a bit of both simultaneously.

[Bedeekin]

You're asking the wrong question...

"is it real, or are you creating it?" isn't what you need to be asking...

"is what you're experiencing helpful to you in some way?" is what you need to ask yourself. 

This is the key.

I don't personally have a 'tick list' where I think... this was real... that was real... etc.

Other constrained realities (ones that upon repeat visits over a 20year period that don't change regardless of my age or state of being) also contain creatures and beings that I consider 'real' because they populate these non-changing realities. But these realities are seemingly viewable only and not intractable.

Also precognitive projections seem to show the people involved in the events precognified... is that a word? lol

But the nonphysical itself is harder to work out.. and then I take the attitude that Xanth hinted at.