Astral Projection Help

[Chris Ditfort]

Hi, my name is Chris and I'm new to this forum.
I've known about Astral Projection for a while but haven't really tried to achieve it.
I have very good tools at my hand like Isochronic tones from the unexplainable store and Steve.G.Jones - Astral Travel Now

Astral Travel now is a little helpful he only gives you 2 methods, In the first module he goes through a story about him in military school and how he achieved astral travel and then he tell you a little bit about it, what you shouldn't and should do astral travelling. Kinda like don't abuse your powers. Like don't go places you shouldn't or do be were your uninvited, otherwise you might see something your not supposed to or something bad might happen to you. I kind of get that It's sort of like real life don't go places you not suppose to.
Thats what he goes on about in the first module, It's actually good info and advice.

In the second module he talks about techniques, he's one. It's you set your alarm one hour early so your a bit tired when you get up then take a 20 minute nap in middle of the day, he said when he does this he get really vivid dreams but he said he's not trying to astral travel. Then he said set your alarm so it will wake you up after 20 minutes and at night go to bed your usual time and he find it really easy to astral travel. That was one of he's method he suggests trying. The other is take it slow. He said get an  hand out then the next day arm ect.. and by the end of the week you will have your whole body out. I didn't really find that helpful. How am I ment get a hand out lol I don't know how. It's like he thinks I know what to do.

That was the whole thingy It was a little helpful, I suppose. So I started training last night. I went with the step by step method take it slow. So I tried getting my hand out and no success i didn't get it out. My only hope was to use the iso tone and try relaxing very deeply then trying getting it out but still no real success. Yeah I can relax so  deeply but no success.


Can anyone push me in the right direction, someone that can astral project. What should I do to train to get my hand out.
Will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris Ditfort

[Chris Ditfort]

Trying to get my left hand out.

[CFTraveler]

I don't know if I've read his work, his name certainly is familiar sounding.
Anyway, I'll give you a short spiel, maybe you know some of it, and if you do, just keep going on to the next thing.
Some basics:
The purpose of most AP techs is to get you into a deep trance, preferably to theta, which seems to be the optimal state to project.  To do this you get your body asleep but maintain awareness.  There are many techs to do it.
Once you are at either theta or 'light' delta, (and still aware) you then try to provoke a projection.  You do this by intending it, and observing cues that may tell you it's time.  Then you attempt an exit technique.
It's the gist of it.
The 'timer' tech simply uses the natural sleep cycle to get you to this 'mind awake body asleep' state, by waking you up and then having you get back into trance, and this bypasses relaxation techs, etc., so you can then try for the exit.  This can be helpful if you know what to do when you're ready.

Now, the 'get out little by little' is something I disagree with- unless he's using an exit for what's known as a 'loosening' technique- the idea that if you can get your arm out you can get yourself out.  This is fine if you have an exit technique prepared for when you find the hand actually comes out.

So, you still have to figure out how to recognize when you're ready (the isochronics can help you with this) and then, when you know you're ready, you need to know what techniques to use and what to do next.

[Chris Ditfort]

I don't know if I've read his work, his name certainly is familiar sounding.
Anyway, I'll give you a short spiel, maybe you know some of it, and if you do, just keep going on to the next thing.
Some basics:
The purpose of most AP techs is to get you into a deep trance, preferably to theta, which seems to be the optimal state to project.  To do this you get your body asleep but maintain awareness.  There are many techs to do it.
Once you are at either theta or 'light' delta, (and still aware) you then try to provoke a projection.  You do this by intending it, and observing cues that may tell you it's time.  Then you attempt an exit technique.
It's the gist of it.
The 'timer' tech simply uses the natural sleep cycle to get you to this 'mind awake body asleep' state, by waking you up and then having you get back into trance, and this bypasses relaxation techs, etc., so you can then try for the exit.  This can be helpful if you know what to do when you're ready.

Now, the 'get out little by little' is something I disagree with- unless he's using an exit for what's known as a 'loosening' technique- the idea that if you can get your arm out you can get yourself out.  This is fine if you have an exit technique prepared for when you find the hand actually comes out.

So, you still have to figure out how to recognize when you're ready (the isochronics can help you with this) and then, when you know you're ready, you need to know what techniques to use and what to do next.

Hi, Thanks Awesome advice so the low delta state is what I trying to get to before I even attempt to get a hand out. Have you been in this state If you have how do you know your in the state?

[Lionheart]

 Hello Chris, I have the entire program by Dr. Steve G. Jones. It is quite intensive, but serves to prepare you to experience the wonderful world of OBE's. I liked all his info and most of his techniques. I however didn't find the climbing out of the body thing useful at all. Many people do though. I chose to go the Frank Kepple/Tom Campbell way of traveling, which is known as Phasing. All of Dr. Steve's technique have been helpful, the energy work, kundalini, breathing, especially his Binaural Beats. I still use his Binaural Beats and lend my CD's to anyone of my friends that are interested in learning how to Astral Travel. I'm sure his Hypnosis walkthroughs work for a lot of people, but I have been using suggestive techniques all my life already. I never needed anyone to Hypnotise me into believing something I already was working to achieve.
Good Luck and Safe Travels 

[Chris Ditfort]

Hello Chris, I have the entire program by Dr. Steve G. Jones. It is quite intensive, but serves to prepare you to experience the wonderful world of OBE's. I liked all his info and most of his techniques. I however didn't find the climbing out of the body thing useful at all. Many people do though. I chose to go the Frank Kepple/Tom Campbell way of traveling, which is known as Phasing. All of Dr. Steve's technique have been helpful, the energy work, kundalini, breathing, especially his Binaural Beats. I still use his Binaural Beats and lend my CD's to anyone of my friends that are interested in learning how to Astral Travel. I'm sure his Hypnosis walkthroughs work for a lot of people, but I have been using suggestive techniques all my life already. I never needed anyone to Hypnotise me into believing something I already was working to achieve.
Good Luck and Safe Travels 

Yeah his info is awesome, I might actually try the other technique he mentions. and listen to his astral projection hypnosis.

[CFTraveler]

Hi, Thanks Awesome advice so the low delta state is what I trying to get to before I even attempt to get a hand out. Have you been in this state If you have how do you know your in the state?

Everyone is different, but I know I am when I can see through my eyelids, or when the hypnagogics start to stabilize.
Some people get vibrations and sounds, but I don't get vibrations anymore, and the sounds/voices come too early in the trance to be considered signposts.
I also know because my mind 'feels different'- I know this is not a good description but it's the only one I got.

[Chris Ditfort]

Everyone is different, but I know I am when I can see through my eyelids, or when the hypnagogics start to stabilize.
Some people get vibrations and sounds, but I don't get vibrations anymore, and the sounds/voices come too early in the trance to be considered signposts.
I also know because my mind 'feels different'- I know this is not a good description but it's the only one I got.

Hi, thanks no this is great advice
I was training last night using Isochronic Tones and just relaxing and I felt a slight shift in consciousness for a second but then I snapped back to normal. I also thought that I could see out of my eyelids but when I tried focusing on it, it went again. I haven't heard sounds, I'd probably get creaped out and it would brake my concentration lol. I got strong vibration in the left thumb when I was trying to project my right hand 2 nights ago.

[CFTraveler]

Localized vibes such as on your hand or legs are not indications of exit, simply an awareness of your energy body.  When you have (or If ) separation vibrations you will know- they are very dramatic at first, and can vary from buzzing vibration all the way to seizurelike swaying or strobing of your point-of view.  They eventually smooth out, but when they first happen they're extremely noteworthy.

[Lord_Dark_Forses]

Localized vibes such as on your hand or legs are not indications of exit, simply an awareness of your energy body.  When you have (or If ) separation vibrations you will know- they are very dramatic at first, and can vary from buzzing vibration all the way to seizurelike swaying or strobing of your point-of view.  They eventually smooth out, but when they first happen they're extremely noteworthy.

but what if you dont feel any vibrations of any kind and still AP, i keep getting confused because the only time i have archive the vibrational state consciously was when i felt asleep and then woke up, felt different and then started to feel them when i commanded myself to go to a friend's house, otherwise i would not feel them unless i commanded myself to go somewhere, but i was still inside of the body, and not too relax. :\ the ppl that talked me about AP, they never vibrate to AP, they just leave their body without any vibrations.

[CFTraveler]

LODF, Read my previous posts slowly- I don't get vibes, so I use other cues, which I spelled out in the posts.  I merely commented that localized vibes are not exit vibes.

[Lord_Dark_Forses]

ok.

[Chris Ditfort]

I got much more closer last night, I felt it. It's kinda hard to explain. But training again to relax.
Anyone recommend a great guide that teaches you relaxation or self hypnosis that's good for astral projection.

Going to go try and project now I'm kinda tired .

[Chris Ditfort]

Any tips on how I can become more aware of my energy body? When I've been training I'v only every felt it in my left thumb. How can I feel my entire energy body?

[Lord_Dark_Forses]

energy body as energy body, or energy body as AP vibrations?

energy body as energy body = just focus your attention on the surrounding of body, start with you arm, focus your attention on the surrounding of your skin.

you may also adsorb energy by visualizing white-gold energy that is surrounding you and then is absolved by your body and makes your aura stronger, brighter and bigger. Synch your breathing with the visualization: when you breath in visualize that while gold energy surrounding you enter by every pore of you body, Then hold your breath for a couple of second and visualize that the white gold energy flows inside your body, then breath out and visualize that your aura grows bigger, and it shines like a sun. Do that about 20 to 30 breath in beginning.

and keep feeling the surrounding of your body, until you can feel something that is not suppose to be felt  in the room that you are in, or may feel static or mini vibrations