Herbs in the AP

[Thirdeyeopen]

Just wondering, is it possible to smoke ganja while focus is in the astral realm?

[Stookie]

You mean like astral-ganja?

The reason most people use drugs like marijuana is to experience another state of consciousness. But if you're astral projecting, you're already in another state of consciousness, no drugs necessary.

[Thirdeyeopen]

ah good point, I always seem to think of ganja as something enjoyable, but forgot that its due to the fact that I enjoy the different state of consciousness it puts me in

[T.L.]

Thirdeyeopen, I think you have smoked entirely too much ganja. 
To smoke it and forget why exactly you smoke it lmao need I say more? That was a great post man love it.

[gillian]

Best laugh I've had all day! 

[iNNERvOYAGER]

I think you may not even be aware of or have the need to breath, much less smoking something.

You might just find a giant bud to sit on in the ganja forest and get a contact high and even talk to it.

[Thirdeyeopen]

haha good point T.L. I think you're right. I've quit smoking ganja for about 2 months now, feels kinda good not to be high all the time actually.

[greggkroodsma]

Every bit of your body, all of it, has a purpose.  Every breath you take, every drink you drink, every pill you pop, every joint or cigarette you smoke, all of it has a purpose.  The purpose could be to do something in this world and make it a little more enjoyable and that is all you have to react to is the outer world.  The outer world will not stop the inner world.  The use of any mind altering thing; smoke, drink, pill, etc. only allows a quicker access to the spiritual.  What you experience in the spiritual as a result of any of these things is only to you.  That's if you don't do something stupid like drink and drive, then you may involve a lot of people and spend a lifetime covering it up. 
But, doing these things, you limit your possibility of knowing the truth.  You only can know the truth of what that thing is that you just smoked, drank, or ingested does to you.  Nothing that happens to you when you do things like that is true or can be true to any body else. 
You could see magnificent colors, creatures, people, things; hear sounds, feel strange vibrations, whatever, but after a time you're right back in the mundane world that is covering the stuff you just saw. 
Sure, you're convinced that that stuff is real.  And time and time again the same thing happens when you do those, so why stop?
I don't think that you have to stop because the inner is not the outer and the inner can be harsh and the outer needs help in reaction to the inner. 
Just be careful and take breaks in between the sessions of extreme ganja activity and let us know what you see.
There is a certain benefit to doing those things I mention and that is when you do those things, you attract the elements of the the spiritual world by increasing your personal vibrations to match the world around you.  Like attracts like.  You may see that certain things happen around you when you're high or whatever.  It is also according to your desire for whatever to happen. 
Now, in the war in Iraq and places around there, there is an element of supposed power caused by the ingestion of a certain plant; the poppy.
The Mayan culture used a substance called MLT or Methyltryptamine to advance their culture and they gave us the belief that the calendar ends on 21 Dec 2012.
The Northwest Natives in United States used peyote.
Ok, which one of those cultures is alive and well now?
Now, we have cocaine, methamphetamines, etc.  There is the culture of pot.  There's always been drunks.  Which one of these overall cultures is alive and doing well?
There's the Pharmaceutical bunch that has pills for everything.  They can make men of women and women of men, even.  Which one of these people can survive outside of their own world?

[Stookie]

Hmmm, that's a very interesting post greggkroodsma. I'm not 100% sure what to make of it, but interesting none the less.

[Awakened_Mind]

I think astral travel and ganja smoking are explorations of two different realms. Each realm with it's own 'message'. Understandably some people want to take LSD, smoke ganja, sit on a mountain peak in Tibet, astral travel all at once. Do what they can to heighten the experience. Ganja may provide something in meditation, astral travel I'd be skeptical. They are visual representations of two different mental phenomena. One induced by the THC when smoking ganja, the other by direct conscious will to leave the body. Meditation enhances your awareness of nothing, so the THC can build on that.

-AM

[Astir]

I do not enjoy the astral cottonmouth.

[Zarklon]

Ehh... I think I have an experience for you..

I've had a couple of dreams where in them I've managed to come across a nice joint and started smoking it..   When I smoke ganja in my dreams I get an extreme sense of my energy swirling and often I start to see vibrant colors enveloping my surroundings.. Its similar to what I've heard LSD can make you experience.  It definitely enhances the fun factor of my dream and I can remember exactly how it felt upon waking up.  It seems to make my dream even more lucid for some reason.  Oh yea .. I dont cough either  

Theres my 2 cents .. heh..

[Principle]

I once had a dream I was shooting up heroin, Now don't ask me why, because I do not wish to ever try it, nor have I ever tried it so I found it extremely strange. Anyways, When I woke up my vision was completely blurred and I felt the only bliss, and peaceful high feeling, lol.

[Awakened_Mind]

Great. Astral junkies 

-AM

[scarred]

yeah i smoked a joint in my dream once and i felt like i got high but i think the gy was talking about being able to smoke  physically while your asleep mentally or what if someone gave you a big old hit via shotgun or just blew it in your open mouth could that change the dream immediately you think the guy would feel the effects inside the dream if he was attatched enough to his body at the time

[Awakened_Mind]

Well that raises an interesting point. People on drugs such as Pscilocybin when meditating, will experience similar hallucinations and visionary experiences the next time they meditate without the drug. Similarly people who smoke DMT can have the same level of profound experiences when they dream on very low doses of DMT usually excreted by the brain while sleeping. So there is some form of residual back drop of experience I guess that we form some kind of communication link with during trance related states.

-AM

[Reptilian]

Question: What is ganja? I've never heard of it before.

[Awakened_Mind]

Marijuana, weed, cannabis etc

-AM