What's your personal method to reach "body asleep"?

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bluremi

Just a note: Don't post your method here if it doesn't actually work. "This method looks promising" or "lately I've been trying this" is not the point of the thread. Please be detailed and post how long it takes you.


My method is to lie on my back and count my breaths up to 20 and back down to 1. With each exhale I relax my body a little more. By the time I'm back at 1 my breathing is very subtle. My body's not asleep yet, though, so to get that "heavy body" or "numb body" feeling I mentally go through relaxing each part of my face and head one by one, finishing with my eyeballs. The way I relax each part is to be mindfully aware of any tension I feel, without trying to actively release the tension. After about a minute the tension completely dissolves on its own. This whole process takes me about 15-25 minutes.


If anyone else has effective methods I'd like to hear about them and give them a try.

astraladdict

What i do is fairly simple, and cuts the projection time down to about 20 min. On the IN breath, breath in relaxation, feel it flow throughout your body. on the OUT breath, breath out any tension  and stress you have. If there is a specific part that needs an extra boost in relaxing, use your third eye and tell it to relax.

~astraladdict
My smile tells lies, but my eyes tell the truth...

Xanth

Quote from: bluremi on July 22, 2011, 14:19:03
Just a note: Don't post your method here if it doesn't actually work. "This method looks promising" or "lately I've been trying this" is not the point of the thread. Please be detailed and post how long it takes you.
You're seriously limiting yourself with that statement.

I say this because what works for one person might not work for you.  So whether or not a method has worked for one person doesn't discount that it could be "THE" method that works for you.  :)

QuoteMy method is to lie on my back and count my breaths up to 20 and back down to 1. With each exhale I relax my body a little more. By the time I'm back at 1 my breathing is very subtle. My body's not asleep yet, though, so to get that "heavy body" or "numb body" feeling I mentally go through relaxing each part of my face and head one by one, finishing with my eyeballs. The way I relax each part is to be mindfully aware of any tension I feel, without trying to actively release the tension. After about a minute the tension completely dissolves on its own. This whole process takes me about 15-25 minutes.
And what do you do for your mind?
It's great and all that you can physically relax your body... but, if that's all your doing, you're going to be waiting forever for "something" to happen.

So, after you've relaxed... what do you do to keep your mind busy?  :)

Lionheart

 I use relaxation for about 2 minutes, starting at forehead and working down to toes. After that I feel my hands, feet and body extend. Then I completely quit thinking anything of the body and just start observing. Lately I have been using a mantra until I start to see images. I have have been using Faaraaoon. Pronounced Faaaaa then roll the r, rrrrraaaaa, oooonnn.I have read up on this mantra, seems interesting, but it is basically a way to keep the mind busy while the body sleeps. Alot of the mantras, chants etc. are just meant on something to focus on while you let go of the physical. You really don't want to keep your focus on your body if you wish it to fall asleep. I used to use the Robert Bruce method which is like the Dr. Steve G. Jones method. Which is, first breathing, then relaxing, then energy movement, then kundalini. But I found that all of this was really to just get your mind away and especially important to show your seriousness in what you are attempting to achieve. I hear of alot of people that try to Astral Travel, they attempt if for awhile but have not really put the tremendous effort forward to achieve their goals. They just kind of mess around with it to see what happens.

bluremi

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Quote from: Ryan_ on July 22, 2011, 15:08:51
And what do you do for your mind?

Keeping track of the numbers while I'm counting my breath keeps my mind occupied. When I'm done counting, I'm essentially doing mindfulness meditation on the different parts of my face and head, which keeps my mind occupied.

When I'm sufficiently relaxed I start visualizing. I also meditate daily so losing focus isn't as much of an issue now as it used to be several months ago.

EDIT: I should say that by the time I'm starting to visualize my mind is in a slight daze and it doesn't want to concentrate on anything. It's like the way your mind flits to random images when you're really tired and trying to stay awake.

blis

I've got a few techniques that work for me.

  • I was shown this one in a dream. After relaxing I concentrate on a point on my head. Where my hair swirls at the top back of my head there is a slight bump.
    I imagine the feeling of rubbing something over the bump. Just keep doing that for as long as it takes. Dont know what it is about that point (its not my crown chakra) but it works for me.



  • Another one I used to use is imagine that the air above you is full of body-asleep energy. When you inhale think the word 'body' and feel the energy coming in with the air and pooling in your throat. When you exhale think the word 'asleep' and let the energy spread throughout your body making it more and more relaxed. Keep doing it for as long as i takes.



  • I got a colour trance induction off a hypnotism website that worked quite well for me too.
    Relax. Visualize the colour red for a while. Then orange, then yellow, green, blue and purple. Then visualize walking down a white staircase. Stay on each stage till you feel more relaxed than before. And keep walking down the staircase till you're in a good trance or phase into the visualisation. This method has the advantage of keeping your mind occupied like Xanth mentioned.



  • I've finally gotten the hang of producing a falling sensation now as well. It works quite well.


  • I can do the hemi-sync focus 10 technique but that feels like something different to a normal trance state to me.


They all take as long as they take. I can be in a light trance within 5 minutes but to get deep enough just takes as long as i takes.

My body often goes to sleep during Pleiadian light chamber sessions as well but thats just to stop you messing it up. I did have a spontaneous projection in one of the chambers once though.

CFTraveler

In a nutshell:
If Im practicing in the evening, after a day, I will do:
* Body relaxation- progressive muscle relaxation, 'melting' exercise, or both
*Mind clearing- Chakra breathing, and then some sort of pranayama.
*Energy raising- a full body bounce usually gets me nice and relax, I always preface it by a bit of sponging in my feet and legs.
*Back to breathing exercises, less technical, with possible heartbeat awareness, looking to slow it down.

If I'm very relaxed I do some trance visualizations
If I'm not I follow it with energy body loosening
Then I go into noticing and listening to my ear-hiss.
Then I either phase or do an exit technique (depending on the symptoms I may be experiencing)
And that's it.

If I do it in the morning I bypass a lot of the relaxing and go into energy raising and trance, and continue from there.


moker

I get very relaxed when doing N.E.W. (energywork)
But i started a short time ago with it, maybe if i continue the relaxation becomes a trance.
Maybe it is also good for you.
But do not give up the first week because it will go slow.
But after that week the results will come very fast, at least for me.
And one last thing don't do sessions of 10 minutes etc, it is like fitness, 10 minutes is nothing.
Do at least sessions of 60 minutes.

Tee1234

Quote from: bluremi on July 22, 2011, 14:19:03
Just a note: Don't post your method here if it doesn't actually work. "This method looks promising" or "lately I've been trying this" is not the point of the thread. Please be detailed and post how long it takes you.


My method is to lie on my back and count my breaths up to 20 and back down to 1. With each exhale I relax my body a little more. By the time I'm back at 1 my breathing is very subtle. My body's not asleep yet, though, so to get that "heavy body" or "numb body" feeling I mentally go through relaxing each part of my face and head one by one, finishing with my eyeballs. The way I relax each part is to be mindfully aware of any tension I feel, without trying to actively release the tension. After about a minute the tension completely dissolves on its own. This whole process takes me about 15-25 minutes.


If anyone else has effective methods I'd like to hear about them and give them a try.

For quickest results be tired.
(Lay on your back) in a cozy position. Sometimes this is the hardest part. Sometimes I keep adjusting myself for like 10 min until I feel like im in a good enough position to keep still for the duration.

(Dead weight) You have to lay there with dead weight. Just laying there perfectly still isnt the same thing. The best way to achieve this is through breathing. When you exhale you create this. Make sure no part of your body is tense. Kinda like- say you picked up a buddy and he was stiff as a log, its easier to lift him. Now if he was deadweight, like a noodle, it would be much harder. Thats what you want to do with your body.

So as your layn there inhale, and as you exhale create the deadweight feeling and never lose it. After your 1st exhale you should basically not move again. Dont tense up as you breathe in again, maintain that feeling throughout. So try to create that feeling everytime you exhale, almost like a sinking/melting feeling and never lose it. You dont have to breathe any certain way like faster or slower, just go at whatever rate comes natural. As your body starts to fall asleep it will slow naturally. You may feel tingles or pulsating throughout the body during this, dont confuse this with the big vibration.

Stay aware and you will experience the big vibration and paralysis. When it finishes you just get up.

I dont really have a method much more than that other than just waiting for the vibration. The only way to fail is to drift off to sleep, lose awareness. You should be aware from the moment you lay down all the way to the exit.

schockstuhh

Quote from: astraladdict on July 22, 2011, 14:22:45
What i do is fairly simple, and cuts the projection time down to about 20 min. On the IN breath, breath in relaxation, feel it flow throughout your body. on the OUT breath, breath out any tension  and stress you have. If there is a specific part that needs an extra boost in relaxing, use your third eye and tell it to relax.

~astraladdict

this is pretty much what i do. i started out using certain techniques, and although it did work for me, i found that with every breath, i simply needed to focus on relaxing myself instead of focusing on the technique. this pretty much cut the time it took in half. my advice would be not to focus too much how long a certain technique may take, because it may be different for you.

Under_the_Midnight_Sun

It's important to focus on being peaceful and relaxed. Sometimes people who are trying to project get too uptight and worried about being too active (which ironically causes them to become more uptight).
I like to keep the mindset of "relax as best as I possibly can at this moment in time". It takes off some of the pressure. It's also important not to get too excited when you notice slight exit symptoms. Getting too excited can easily cause an exit attempt to be aborted. Many of my early attempts were ruined because of this.

astraladdict

Quote from: schockstuhh on July 25, 2011, 01:21:49
this is pretty much what i do. i started out using certain techniques, and although it did work for me, i found that with every breath, i simply needed to focus on relaxing myself instead of focusing on the technique. this pretty much cut the time it took in half. my advice would be not to focus too much how long a certain technique may take, because it may be different for you.

Whenever someone asks me what's the secret to projection, i say time and time after again. RELAXATION!

~astraladdict
My smile tells lies, but my eyes tell the truth...

ayearhasgone

Quote from: Tee1234 on July 24, 2011, 17:24:46
(Dead weight) You have to lay there with dead weight. Just laying there perfectly still isnt the same thing. The best way to achieve this is through breathing. When you exhale you create this. Make sure no part of your body is tense. Kinda like- say you picked up a buddy and he was stiff as a log, its easier to lift him. Now if he was deadweight, like a noodle, it would be much harder. Thats what you want to do with your body.
Here's how I achieve the dead weight sensation.  It works extremely well for me.

Do the usual light relaxation things of course-- scratch those itches, adjust body for comfort, start dealing with surface thoughts.  When I'm in a light relaxed state, I tense my entire body, then let it go.  I do this three times.  Just as effective (for me) as progressive relaxation but much quicker.  Then, I "feel" myself becoming a statue.  I tell myself over and over that my body is becoming heavy.

At this point I start to feel three times as heavy as usual.  It is very inconvenient to be interrupted in this state of mind.   :-)


Contenteo

From what has been said so far, it's cool that everyone is kinda agreeing around centralized set of techniques. I am no exception. I use deep breathing with dead wait. Only difference is I just kinda sit there and wait in that state, with my teeth relaxed touching each other, waiting for the Novocaine to set in.

My big difference is, because I had the luck to be chosen by a hypnotist once during a show, if I recall that state and keep repeating, "deeper," I find it really throws me into a state where I can use visualization effectively quicker.

I like blis's notation of a falling sensation, however that is what a common feeling for me when I initially enter the F15 bridge in the phasing process.

Cheers,
Contenteo