i think iv found something

[astralee]

 this happend twice now  iv used robert petersons method on his vizulising an object moving above me i did it at the same time as watching remsleep  images   and with in 30 mintues i was in the non phisical total lucid and it dident fade, the onley time it was when i notice and woke up it was just like projecting from a dream.  and i dident have to  sleep first i just relaxed focused on the object then watched the images  then  focused on the object again  then i phased.  

[Szaxx]

Good one, you had a concious projection. The ability to focus is very important as you have experienced. It's this ability that gets results.
Focus is required to stay aware, if you lose it, your awareness goes too.
Perfect example, well done.

[astralee]

Good one, you had a concious projection. The ability to focus is very important as you have experienced. It's this ability that gets results.
Focus is required to stay aware, if you lose it, your awareness goes too.
Perfect example, well done.

cool thanks it works so easy in the morning and gets me into mind awake body asleep so fast.

[Xanth]

And it's important to say that everyone focuses differently.  This is why there are so many "methods" and "techniques" out there.
EVERY.  SINGLE.  METHOD... breaks down to "focus".  ALL OF THEM.  They're all the same thing... just done slightly different ways.

Finding the way that you require to focus is the key to learning to consciously project.  Once you find that, it's like having an actual key to the non-physical which you can turn in the lock whenever you want.

[astralee]

wow i just phased again it feels like the best sleep iv had in ages even thou im still awake focusing normaly when i try to sleep before bed it takes me ages it was like  i was alsweep in 10 minutes it takes me an hour.xanth check out kung fu pander 2 you might find it interesting when po  finds inner peace.

[Lionheart]

wow i just phased again it feels like the best sleep iv had in ages even thou im still awake focusing normaly when i try to sleep before bed it takes me ages it was like  i was alsweep in 10 minutes it takes me an hour.xanth check out kung fu pander 2 you might find it interesting when po  finds inner peace.

Be careful with this though. I found that it was a hard habit to break. I would lie down to go to sleep and begin to just "notice". I did this so much and so often that it became "automatic". I would lie down to sleep and immediately see that I was noticing. This led to many, many nights where sleep did not come for well over a hour. Some nights 2-3 hours. But, the positive was I got to see exactly what happens during the sleep cycle. I also got some great "thinking" time in, lol.

But, I had to learn how to just close my eyes and go simply fall asleep again. This happened when I started to do nightly affirmations that reinforced that I became consciously aware in my NP (Non Physical) nightly experiences. Now I didn't need to watch myself fall asleep anymore because I knew that once I did, I would become consciously aware when I was deep in the NP.

I didn't "ask" to become consciously aware, I knew I would. That's a very important part of affirmations. You aren't asking for anything, you are merely stating/reinforcing what's already known! 

[Xanth]

wow i just phased again it feels like the best sleep iv had in ages even thou im still awake focusing normaly when i try to sleep before bed it takes me ages it was like  i was alsweep in 10 minutes it takes me an hour.xanth check out kung fu pander 2 you might find it interesting when po  finds inner peace.

Seen it.  And yes, it's kind of like that... it's a realization more than anything else. 

[new2ap]

this happend twice now  iv used robert petersons method on his vizulising an object moving above me i did it at the same time as watching remsleep  images   and with in 30 mintues i was in the non phisical total lucid and it dident fade, the onley time it was when i notice and woke up it was just like projecting from a dream.  and i dident have to  sleep first i just relaxed focused on the object then watched the images  then  focused on the object again  then i phased.  

could you please post a link to read about " Robert Petersons method " you mentioned? 

thanks

[Xanth]

http://www.robertpeterson.org/chap24.html

It's that one.

His entire book is posted on his website for you to read too. 

[new2ap]

http://www.robertpeterson.org/chap24.html

It's that one.

His entire book is posted on his website for you to read too. 

Thank you Xanth

[Xanth]

Thank you Xanth

You're welcome.

It's really a great book too.  You should buy it and support him because he's a really nice guy as well.
I've been very fortunate to be able to converse with Robert directly on facebook multiple times.  He's a genuinely really nice guy who only wants to help people to learn to project.

[astralee]

the  hard part is the timing off focus in the images to long and then focusing  on the object away from you.