how do you see your etheric body

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astralee

i can onley see it when i blink. mine is     green in colour.

Lionheart

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Quote from: astralee on October 16, 2012, 18:33:07
i can onley see it when i blink. mine is     green in colour.
Usually I see it a glowing source of light. Once in awhile though I see it as a white chalked outline.

Angie746

Hi there I'm new here but very experienced in all fields of astral projection, lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis. I have looked at my astral hands while I was attempting a projection and only my hands were out at that point and they looked like a heat energy but in the shape of my hands :)

Lionheart

Quote from: Angie746 on January 10, 2013, 16:50:42
Hi there I'm new here but very experienced in all fields of astral projection, lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis. I have looked at my astral hands while I was attempting a projection and only my hands were out at that point and they looked like a heat energy but in the shape of my hands :)
Hello and Welcome to the Astral Pulse Angie!  :-)

Our hands could look this way because we are still looking through blurry eyes, not quite with full focused awareness, while transitioning to the Non Physical Reality (NPR).

Bedeekin

They can be different under different circumstances.

When I am fully nonphysical they are solid seemingly meat based hands most of the time. When in SP they are invisible but for either a slight incandescence or picked out by a traced drop shadow.

The first ever time I had SP when I looked at my hands that were a shadow with faint glittery sparkles inside them.

Szaxx

The first recollection was my arm. I'd just conquered being able to make a concious exit and examined my arm. It looked the same shape and was a bright luminous light blue-white colour. It had what looked like veins inside and these were made of chips of brightly lit many coloured dots of light travelling along them. It looked so surreal I've not forgot the experience. It occured in 1974. Still seems like yesterday.
I was totally amazed by its beauty.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Xanth

Well first... you have to fully believe you HAVE one to begin with.  For you can't see that which you don't have a belief in.  ;)

Bedeekin

Yeah... this is true.. .at 11 years old with no preconceived ideas or any particular belief in what was going on, it is interesting that I saw and experienced what most people experience. I had no reason to believe that when I was in paralysis I would have a semi transparent hand when I brought it up to my face. I was expecting just to see my hand. I fully believed it was my hand.

The same can be said for nearly all of my pre-AP-reading-material experiences.

This and many many things make me think that maybe not everything is belief and expectation when it comes to OOBE... or rather I can't be so sure 100% that it is all made of belief.

Xanth

Well, there are certain ingrained beliefs we have simply because we're human.

The belief that we require a "body" in order to interact with our environment, for example.

It's the entire basis behind the concept of an "out of body" experience.

Once you realize that you really don't have a body at all... and KNOW it, that's when things get interesting for most people.  LoL

Bedeekin

Well... all said and done... it's a handy interface with which to experience this reality. Two handy... oooh! See what I did there?


Szaxx

Oh no lets not get up in arms about this, oops another ...
Lol.
Ill agree with the early days if being new to the art can have a relation to that experienced.
Lets face the simple fact. To do this totally on your own with no help, the experience will be heavily influenced by the physical. All your concious existance has been within your physical body. It's so similar to the world being flat... Thats exactly as it APPEARS.
Its knowing more that makes the sensibility of this falter.
The main problem with those starting is a reference point. It must comply to what seems apparent.
With a few good experiences the truth starts to become clear and the reality itself that has been their whole existance opens up to an apparent infinity.
'The wider reality', is a label that has a genius behind its creation. It says all to a beginner and an adept.
Xanth is 100% on target too. The elders in my family speak so old school I've had to read books from a century ago to persue an argument. They listen now but refuse to change their 7 planes teachings...
The belief of your instructor also is a point of compromisation. If you believe it will or can't help your development without enough experience you've already shot yourself in your foot. This is a point brought up before on this forum about 'we are all different and some things wont work....'
Its a belief system and these need to be removed from your mind.
A simple approach is being stated here and I'm in with the guys saying this.

Its the best way forward for all newbies.


There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Bedeekin

Quote from: Szaxx on January 11, 2013, 08:00:47
Lets face the simple fact. To do this totally on your own with no help, the experience will be heavily influenced by the physical. All your concious existance has been within your physical body. It's so similar to the world being flat... Thats exactly as it APPEARS.

lol

I didn't see my hand as it appeared in real life. It was all ghostly and astrally.  :-D

I would say that NOW I see my body as a solid form during nonphysical exploration. Because I chose to do so.

Stookie_

I've never felt myself as transparent or smokey or ghostlike, even though that's what I originally imagined it to be like. My very first OBE shocked the crap out of me because of how physical it was... other than the fact that gravity wasn't working and I had nothing to hold onto. That's discombobulating if you're not ready for it.

I rarely pay attention to my form anymore. It varies depending on the area of consciousness and level of self-awareness. And I don't do much etheric projection these days.

Bedeekin

Same here Stookie... I don't get anything from it anymore.

Szaxx

Thats the thing, a hand of sorts was seen.
The actuality is becoming more apparent that the thinking, concious ' you ' is nothing more than an energetic form. There's no body as such at all. The body is the vehicle in which to exist in the physical state.
I'll agree when oob you can have a form of your choosing, typically a human but this is the limitation set by our gained knowledge of acceptance. This acceptance is again based on the physical reality being the alpha state at our present time.
Its relatively easy to be a dragon, flames and all. Its fun too. The 'you' exists in any form of choice.
The body is irrelevant.
If you've managed an experience into the 'higher levels' this you is nothing more than a point conciousness with absolutely no form.
I think this is one aspect that Xanth is trying to put across.
A beginner may not understand this proposition having no experiences on the higher levels ( used as a label to enable a reference).
Its quite a proposition to accept, it may also be the whole truth. We are beginning our journey at present and the subjectivity certainly throws a spanner in the complexities of the wider realities secrets.
A symptom may be that the apathy is creeping in simply as the more experience we have a ceiling is being reached and getting through it is a new unknown or worse still our limit.
Mmmm the final frontier...
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.