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Quote from: faxman on April 03, 2012, 13:09:365 attempts and yet no exit. I'll continue anyway
Quote from: Anonymouse on April 04, 2012, 11:03:15Well, with this method I have managed to have some sort of lucid dreaming, right after the cycles. It wasn't lucid dreaming, since I didn't know I was dreaming. I simply dreamed about covering my self with a blanket, in my bed. And woke up 2 mintues later, realizing I wasn't covered.I'll keep you updated, see how it goes. One thing though, it's when I wake up after 4/5 hours of sleep, I'm madly sleepy. I can only do a couple of cycles (sometimes not eaven one) before my mind starts wondering, and getting into the dreaming state. I notice it, and try to cycle again, but again, my mind starts dreaming pretty pretty quickly :p. Which I find it quite fun though, it is a little battle taking place.As I said, I'll keep you updated.
Quote from: Xanth on April 28, 2012, 14:21:41My apologies for jumping into this thread so late! Just had time today to give it a good read.That's a great technique cosmic.iron! It's actually very close, if not exactly to what we teach here called "Phasing" using the "Noticing Exercise".I'll provide a quick link to it:http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2010/09/06/what-is-phasing-and-noticing/http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/2011/02/01/phasing-with-noticing-a-more-detailed-explanation/It's nice to see that different groups researching the same thing are coming to the same conclusions!
Quote from: Volgerle on May 24, 2012, 05:31:11I can't agree. I don't think it is the same at all. It is about preparing to do AP from sleep or to get lucid in a dream. Therefore it's an indirect method. Isn't Noticing a direct method? Only in one bullet (5 under "what's going to happen") there's mentioning of a possibilty of a direct phasing /AP to occur while you do the preparation cycles.
Quote from: Xanth on July 15, 2012, 21:09:582a) With your eyes closed, stare at the darkness behind your eyelids for 15-20 seconds. Try to pick up any colors, lights, or images, but do not strain your eye muscle. If you see nothing but darkness, that's fine. Again, we are not striving to induce dreams from the waked state, so do NOT force it. It is perfectly fine to not feel anything. 2b) Listen to the noises in your ears for 15-20 seconds. Chances are you will hear some light humming and buzzing sound. See if you can hear it more clearly. If you don't hear anything that's okay. 2c) Notice any strange body sensations such as heaviness, tingling, and movements. Pay attention particularly to the head, hands, fingers, abdomen, feet, and toes. Again, it is perfectly fine if you don't feel anything strange. The above steps should be performed in a relaxed manner, slowly, lazily, and without any rational thoughts. The 15-20 seconds duration is for your reference only, so do NOT count in your head! Chances are, after a couple of repetitions you will begin to feel sleepy, to the point your mind may drift away and forget to continue the exercise. Congratulations, this is exactly the effect we are after! When this happens just pull your mind back a bit and resume from where you drifted away. If you lost count of the repetitions then simply do a new set. It won't hurt. That's noticing. What the difference here is... is that you're actively ALLOWING yourself to fall asleep afterwards in an effort to try to catch your awareness when you enter the dream. If you don't do the falling asleep part and don't let your mind 'drift away', you'll eventually Phase consciously. It's a natural progression from keeping your mind active while doing the noticing exercise.The difference is with one you smoothly shift into the non-physical... the other (which this is describing) might give you a break in conscious awareness as you shift.In the end, the "HOW" you get into the non-physical fully aware doesn't matter. The point is that you DO IT.
Quote from: Xanth on July 15, 2012, 21:09:58The difference is with one you smoothly shift into the non-physical... the other (which this is describing) might give you a break in conscious awareness as you shift.
Quote from: Volgerle on July 20, 2012, 08:50:36The reason for my being so adamant about pointing out this difference this is: I have read posts from very frustrated forum users (here and elsewhere) who simply couldn't do it consciously / directly. They never were given the idea that you can do the techniques (such as Noticing) as preparations and then fall asleep again with some success probabilty for later (=indirect stragegy).
Quote from: eskimoswim on October 26, 2012, 18:39:16i've tried the method given by the original poster for the past two days prior to afternoon naps. nothing seems to be happening. sometimes i'll see small blotches of things when looking at my eyelids, and parts of my body will go numb. but that's about it. when i start to shift into a dream, my body immediately twitches and prevents me from falling asleep. it's almost as if i'm too aware or something. basically, i end up laying there for 90 minutes with closed eyes and an empty mind.any tips?