Question for people who go into ASC's

[Donal]

(altered states of consciouness)

Do you ever feel that you change space-time? Like if you were deeply, relaxed, like that you could alter space-time (as looking at it as objective reality...) or change your perception of it?

[MontanaHayseed]

Hiya Donal.

You can surely change your perception of it!  You can change your perception of it by emphasizing some sensations and perceptions and even ideas while dimming others... and this is a matter of emphasis (quantity)  Your experience can also undergo what in physics as a "state change" (Water to ice is a commonly cited example, the conductivity of supercooled fluids is another).. and in this case... it really seems to be more about how information is processed.. so the emphasis here is on "software".  (Reality, for an engineer, is a vastly different thing than it is for a watercolor artist, say) In yet another example, it is possible in the commerce of the "spirit" world, to effect trades, acquire "spiritual capital", or to invest it etc.  Here you can discover that "you" have been "added to" or "subtracted from"...  If you somehow klonk into a cougar spirit and get suffused with its energy, to take a hypothetic example. Your experience of the world will have elements of this new cat dynamic.  This is a "qualitative change"

Note that you can have more than one kind of change going on at the same time. It can be both instructive and amusing.  But not to be at it when operating heavy machinery, eh?  </;-D

As to whether we can ever effect real changes in the tangible world (... if either thing exists!!!) in any way other than the usual "doing stuff"... I have never seen a description of an experimental form such that you would ever be able to tell if you were successful... you would need to compare realities.. the one in which you did not do the procedure that would ostensibly change things, and the one in which you did.  That is what reason has to say about that there. On the other hand though, in a book called "The Conscious Universe" a Doctor of Physics (I  am remembering his name as Dean Radin, but not sure) used a meta-analysis of the great store of "ESP" studies , and studying it all with the spectacles, he pronounced with the the thinnest lips of the white coated scientist that "There is an effect".  IE.. there is some sort of unexplained correlation between "intent" and a disturbance in the reality that we would have expected to prevail had the "intent" had no effect.  (Note that causation is not established:  Bizzarro as it sounds events creating the will to precipitate them is not ruled out, for example).  So given all that, maybe the short answer to your question might be summed up in this fashion:

"Yes."

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But a little bird tells me this:  If your heart were a thing that saw by the "light" it shed, the direction in which it then looked would precipitate the reality that suits it best...   sort of like a black hole precipitating and at the same time traveling through a worm hole... it opens up before it and closes away behind.... the black hole, by virtue of its "gravity" travels on to unimaginable places.

MH